jackattack

News anchors don't have accents. The just speak plainly. That is how Californian's speak. I would say that is not having an accent. Sorry if I didn't whip out my websters and look it up to find the exact definition.

get out the brooms. It's a sweep. =D>

Nope. Californians don't really have accents. It might be because this is where Movies and T.V. are made. If you count slang people do say like, dude and hella a lot. Although hella is only a norcal thing. There is NO accent here lol...unless American is an accent. Do you live in the Bay Area? I live in San jose :-# San Francisco. :thumbsup:

He failed because he said Russia was the aggressor?

I just like no accents. I'm from California. Theres not really an accent here. Southern accents are kinda hot on girls though.

[hide=] One issue voters, on an issue that will NEVER be overturned, when we're on the brink of another war and a continued war, with an economy teetering on recession...are you serious? Seriously? Really? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/07/us/po ... ref=slogin *sigh* Which issue? And may I ask, how McCain's are any better? Now, tell me, how is he going to pay for it, and have this happen? Does he tell you on his website? No? Why not? It's "elusive" no? I mean he let's you know where it's coming from, but at what expense? He's continuing the war for god knows how long, and there's a health care tax credit being issued? Tax credits don't solve problems, they reduce spending HEAVILY somewhere else at the expense of the tax credit. Why should Obama be any different? I mean, I don't know about you, but I'd say this is far more specific, and it's something he can do: he can establish new departments if he so wishes. Does he tell you how he'll establish it or pay for it? The progressive tax plan he proposes that most other countries have would be apart of it :roll: It was NEVER immediate. He has ALWAYS stated: "We need to be as careful getting out of Iraq, as we were careless getting in". ALways, ALWays, ALWAYS! Fail soundbite is fail. Oh yeah, a sound-clip of him taken out of context. I would imagine that he went on to say, "BUT! I would not be against an energy plan that has nuclear options on the table." :roll: You don't? What don't you see? I see investing billions into research for new energy sources which should have been going on YEARS ago, an option for Nuclear, and EVEN an option for drilling, but people who aren't naive about the drilling will know that's just a Republican wedge issue, just as abortion is. Besides, 17% voting record for energy independence, this is not good. "Times change, people change." They do? I mean, the man has a voting record of being 90-95% alongside Bush, while the Republicans are 100% alongside him, except for Ron Paul and Chuck Hagel. He's saying he is Bush, the world sees him as Bush, and yet Americans are still too thick headed to not see it. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/E ... tSheet.pdf I took all of your reasons, and responded to them. Dude, you are a right winger making it sound like you'd give someone on the left a chance. That's called trolling, and I know it when I see it. I've been on this campaign for over a year, and I've talked to too many people...don't try and take me for a fool. I called you out as a troll, if that's name-calling, then get off the internet. I responded to all of your claims, and this is flaming? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://myclob.pbwiki.com/02-26-2003 Looks like he was a gambling man to me. He also wants to re-instate Reaganomics, which are rubbish. Lol? Lower taxes, while we're at war...is he serious? Yeah, by cut taxes he means for the billionaires who do not need them. It's almost like we ignored the sub-prime mortgages just so the Republicans would have a talking point later. Taxes are going up, it's just a fact of life. John McCain knows it, and that's why he said what he recently said about them. He is in a pickle, he can't fully admit that taxes are going up because that would probably make him lose in a landslide right about now, but he knows they will be increasing. Except, "times change, people change". All of his now-talking points are a repeat of Bush. What does a record matter if he's just continuing Bush's policies? S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL) and Tom Coburn (R-OK) today hailed the Senate's passage of the "Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act," a bill that will create a Google-like search engine and database to track approximately $1 trillion in federal grants, contracts, earmarks and loans. http://obama.senate.gov/press/060908-senate_passes_c/ Authored by U.S. Sens. [bleep] Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction. http://obama.senate.gov/press/070111-lugar-obama_non/ I will find you more, there's just too much for me to respond to atm. not for the execs to give him it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01891.html Besides, the grassroot campaign that Obama has run has been a total change in campaign reform. You can bash his stances all you want, but you cannot deny that this is the most organized campaign in recent memory... Both Ginger Warrior and I have explained to you about this in the Iraq thread, there is no need to carry it on here. I agree he isn't as much of a proponent as I'd like him to be, I have made a long post on the "Nuclear Power" thread, or maybe it was Chernobyl, either way I made a long post about why I support Nuclear Power. Obama, and many others, have a fear of the waste, so once he is educated by the scientists about the art of recycling it, then he could be a bigger proponent. I suggest we talk to Canada about sharing the Canadian Shield for waste storage...possibly buying pieces of the land, and that money is re-invested in other energies. Again, I'm not as Pro-Obama as you think I am, I am really anti-Republican/conservative, and I am Pro-bridging gaps in American politics so we can move America back to the center/left when FDR was in office. I don't see these propositions, and they're kind of forced to now that America is realizing what a big deal energy is. Gas went up like $1.50 out of nowhere thanks to speculators. Wow...really? Really? I mean, it's not like I like to cite wiki, but it is monitored 24/7 with legitimate sources, and has footnotes, so I will cite it anyway: ??? I don't know what you're asking, or why you're asking. There's nothing to solve. It's a fact: America needs illegals more than they need us. They do the jobs that Americans refuse to do for that kind of pay, so until they're citizens to be taxed and on official pay-rolls, they will be here to stay. Sorry, I should have said what I specifically agreed about. I agreed with him that he is unfit to be President because of his experiences over there. I feel he has issues with PTSD that were unresolved. The sad thing is, a lot of churches in America are like this, and many black liberal churches have a "political" singe to them. Furthermore, I said I can't disagree with SOME of the things he says, I said "other controversial issues that I didn't agree with". Oh, so anything he has done isn't meaningful? What does it matter how long he's been there, he did things, and all of the sudden because he hasn't been there "that long" that his resume is disqualified? It is constitutional. Different interpretations lead to different assertions. I believe the Father of the Constitution believed in a lax-interpretation :P Yep, and I LOVE taxes, love them. Just thinking about them makes me salivate. See, unlike you, I like to see the government re-distribute the wealth, not the corporations. White felon has a better chance at getting a job than a "clean" African. Something's wrong there. It's not institutionalizing unfairness, people who don't understand it are the ones who advocate this. I shall dedicate a thread to AA after this. You're free to speak what you want, but you have to give the opposition air-time to present a rebuttal. Seems fair to me. So you don't want to deport them? Or are you just saying this because McCain worked on the bill? My favorite Senator ALSO worked on the bill, and that would be Russ Feingold. What's your point? I support what it advocated, while I doubt you do, you're just using it as a weapon because McCain supported it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If part of your statement is a lie, then that would make the entire thing a lie in my eyes, as you tried to force it off as truth in one big snippet. He has lowered taxes for the wealthy, this is a fact. Smaller government? That's the opposite of neo-conservatism, which is what Bush is...making my statements quite true :? American Conservatism has no definition, it's the most evanescent chameleon in world politics. Big 3? I don't know what you would consider big, and what I would consider big. Most people, before going into politics, start out on school boards, and in communities. The man was a community organizer for years, and I see that as something very big because of the leadership aspect of getting people involved. It's beyond just being a leader, it's doing what a President does on the small scale: giving hope to Americans that they're the ones with the power to change and reform. Change occurs from the bottom up, not the top down. Do you want bills? Legislation? Speeches? I mean, how vague can you get? What allows someone to pass the test to be President? Video made by my friend at UVA: I'll concede there are a few, but the Democratic party as a whole, and a VAST majority, not just a simple 51%, oppose banning guns altogether. Point taken, though. I love taxes, and so does the rest of the Western World. Ok, if you wanna be real, of course no one LIKES taxes, but we support their purpose. Corporate welfare, hmmm...well as much as I hate to buyout places like FannieMae, the costs would be far more detrimental to let them sink. Maybe if Bush intervened in the first place, it could have been avoided. I shall make an AA thread. Fine by me. I'll look into these things more. The fact is, McCain is not liked among veterans, and I won't go into this further because jackattack will quote me again and talk about it when we just disagree, so I'll leave it at that. A reformist...reformists are typically socialist democracy advocates. How can you be a reformist, followers of many Marxist ideals, yet dislike many of the things you've stated. More and more, you're looking like a libertarian. What have I done? Well, I've been registering new voters for over a year, and making calls every weekend to states that are polling bad for Obama. I've canvassed, I've held actual voter drives, I helped get Jim Webb elected...is that enough? I am a student in school, I do everything I can. My political athileations, well asthileaton isn't a word, but I assume you're asking what I believe...so here goes: I had a friend PM me: "I almost changed to a liberal today..." He said: Here was my response: If you truly felt this way, you would detest conservatism because what conservatism and capitalism advocate are the complete opposite. What they advocate is that, despite how much you want this man to succeed and be appreciated, there's really nothing you can do but hope that he feels that he can succeed, and will have the will power to make it on his own. That's all they advocate: "you're on your own, I wish I could help you, but I have my own desires to succeed and it's not my fault that you don't have the same amount of ability to make it like I do." You know, I've always thought that most of you and who you were was like Bush: a person who really does care deep down, they've just been led/taught/raised astray in a different world of thought, and haven't really been able to give up what they have to make the difference. Perhaps this will change when you reach the college level, I don't know. College students in general tend to be "idealistic", but most people in America, just flat out don't understand socialistic policy due to McCarthy and the Red Scare. You say "Is there any economic plan for this to happen?", and it's sitting right there in socialist democracy, and you dismiss it. People don't seem to like taxes in America, people like my Dad included. They're afraid of a government becoming too powerful, and I can understand this fear. However, the way America is set up, I do not think we should fear an "all be all" government; it's simply not possible in a realistic view point for it to happen. They also don't think it's fair for the government to be the one dispersing the wealth, "Is that fair for the government to do that?" Well, who says it's fair for the corporations to do that? At least with government, we elect and choose our officials; they represent us. The corporations represent their stock holders, and will almost always do what is in the best interest of the company. If that just so happens to benefit the people, then great. If not, well too bad. This is why I feel a government levying the taxes, and directing where the wealth goes is a much better idea: they have accountability on the voters. If we don't like them, we don't elect them again. One thing that needs to happen inside Washington outside of elected officials, however, is a mass form of "accountability". As of right now, we have useless departments because people simply cannot get fired unless they punched their boss in the face. If there was new management in how things were done, and people worked like they would in a company (where if they [bleep] around, they'd be fired), then we would be all set. So herein lies the conundrum: how do we bring the poor closer to the rich, without totally creating a Nanny state, and without encouraging greed? I mean, granted, there will ALWAYS be poor and rich in every society unless it's a Communist Utopia...which as we all know 1.) can't happen, and 2.) I personally would not like for it to happen. I would not like for that to happen because as much as I want everyone to be equal, I'm aware that not everyone is willing to put in the same effort, and I don't believe hard work is rewarded through Communism; there's no way of getting ahead. This leads to eventual "work just hard enough to not get fired" mindsets, and it's not healthy for progress or society. However, even though there will always be disparity between the rich and the poor, it is and will always continue to be, a large distance in America. If you took a city like Baltimore, and looked at their poor, and then took a city like Paris, and looked at their poor, you would see a much greater difference. The poor in Paris are still poor, sure, but their quality of life is much greater. They have access to medicine, and education, and shelter, and even food...and vacation times. They're still poor, but they still have access and their quality of life is much greater. People in Baltimore are not so lucky, and they're completely on their own. This is a common misconception about socialism: that you somehow still can't be rich, and that your hard work is not rewarded. My dad has this misconception...when he thinks socialism, he thinks Russia and China, which are not socialist states whatsoever. If I told him Germany was a socialist state, he probably would not believe me. It's very possible to be rich in socialism, just as it is possible to be poor. The difference is, the poor and middle class have better qualities of life, at the expense of some of the riches' wealth. It's like owning 10 houses and 5 cars with capitalism, and owning 7 houses and 3 cars with socialism; the only difference is that with capitalism there is a sheer vanity and greed for more that is never ending. Why the need for so much? Just because you can? Just because you want? I mean if you take most rich people, they're not rich because of the businesses they own, but because of their assets and investments. Yet, Canada has a 50% capital gains tax...and yet, your father is still wealthy no? Germany has 0% capital gains tax under many circumstances, but gets as high as 28%. Iceland, probably the most socialist country on earth, has 0% capital gains tax...0%. I mean, some people might not think it's fair for the rich to be taxed in greater numbers than the poor, and maybe they're right. However, I do not think just because something is fair, means that it is right. I think it's disgusting to see a gold plated Porsche, and I see my Aunt without access to health care; a woman who hasn't seen a doctor in over 7 years because she can't afford to. I think it's disgusting to see our troops serving this country with all their heart and soul, to return home to people metaphorically spitting on them by not giving them treatment for their PTSD or decapitations, or a house to sleep in, or food to eat. I think it's disgusting to see myself be taxed 23%, a person who can't afford school or food or laundry who works 12 hours a day of hard work every day, and see someone like Warren Buffet be taxed 17% of his assets because of loopholes that are easily exploited. So maybe for an economy, capitalism is the best way...I concede that point. However, socialism in a socialist democracy can be mixed with capitalism...and I see the two converging to the middle to be a far better way for the citizens. What is the point of a booming economy, if 90-95% of its citizens who lay toil to the work everyday reap none of the rewards? I mean, the US has the greatest economy by far...great. Now, how are the lives of its citizens? If their lives are not being lived happily, what the hell is the point of such a great economy? So a few rich [wagon] can sit at home doing nothing while Wall Street increases their assets, venturing out on rich-filled vacations full of [cabbage] that really does not matter, or should not matter at least, while hard working Americans work 8-16 hours every day for minimum wage, receive no benefits, and go home hungry with no access to education or health care? No, I'm sorry, I cannot bear or be apart of a system that is so corrupt that it would rather see its economy booming to the point that it can control the world, leaving a few people very rich, while the rest of the country suffers. That is why I am a socialist, and that is why I am a liberal. [/hide] This is just way too long and I'm not going to try to get to everything. -When you talk about Mitt Romney cutting taxes during a war. Barack Obama raising taxes during a recession? -And tax cuts go to everyone. The rich make more money off them because they pay more. -The bill he sponsored with [bleep] Lugar I knew about and the one with Sen. Coburn is nothing really. -Obama has taken 400,000 from oil companies if you count private contributions. -Obama's campaign is organized but that doesn't make a difference in campaign reform. -If you haven't seen the American energy act watch cspan. Thats all they talk about. It's not the speculators they've been around since way before prices went up. -Barack Obama voted for the 2005 energy bill that gave oil companies tax breaks. -McCain doesn't have ptsd. I didn't know you were a doctor. -The D.C. gun ban is NOT constitutional. It being constitutional doesn't really get into enumerated or implied powers. -"White felon has a better chance of getting a job then a clean african?" I honestly have no idea what your talking about. -I honestly would support amnesty. My aunt in law and cousins are illegally here. They don't really deserve to go back to Mexico. As long as they close the border. -And your whole commie rant. -When you talk about capital gains tax being low. Raising it would lower the revenue from it. So thats meaningless. The rich are already overtaxed. A little more wouldn't hurt but how much is enough? The top 1% of wage earners pay like 40% of taxes. The top 10% pay like 70%. The bottom 40% pay NOTHING. And if you're jealous of Warren Buffet maybe you should get into the stock market. I pay a higher percentage than him. I don't think he should pay more. I should do what he does. I mean I guess socialist things for children and the elderly are fine by me but why able people? This is AMERICA. They can do anything they want. It's not that hard to go to a community college or trade school and get a very good job. If you think they are entitled to my money I guess that really depends on whether you are a subscriber to the U.S. constitution or the communist manifesto. Minimum wages cost jobs and so little a percentage of full time working adults make them for more than 1 year. And you talk about how the poor in France are so darn lucky. The average POOR persons house in America is 30% larger than the AVERAGE french persons house. And if poor people don't want to be poor they should work. The average poor household runs on something like less than 20 hours of work per week. If that were raised to 40, 3/4 of children in poverty would be lifted out. This is where open border people kind of get on my nerves with "jobs Americans won't do".

I grew up one town over from where Tom Brady lived. Sometimes I saw his mom at the store. Barry Bonds used to work out at the same gym as my uncle. I think Robin Willams should live within a few miles of me.

Please. It's just the opposite. The aclu goes after anything even remotely religious. Like that football coach who bowed his head during *student led optional prayers*. Or stuff like putting a nativity scene on city property even if there are menorahs already there. North Carolina's State Constitution, Article 6 Section 8 "Disqualifications of office. The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God." 1st amendment to the US Constitution "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding." - United States Constitution, Article VI I'm not familiar with the North Caroling state constitituion. If that is in there I'd be willing to bet a pretty penny that it has never been used or the aclu would be all over that. They have way to much time on their hands.

I remember a few years ago this guy I knew had a foreign exchange student. He was from Serbia or somewhere. He was hella chill. He had the funniest accent. He got so many girls with that accent I was amazed. If you live on a farm I don't really have any ideas. Maybe a mini oktoberfest?

Well he's against waterboarding and wants to close guantanamo. :? And he doesn't want to scale up the war. #-o

Please. It's just the opposite. The aclu goes after anything even remotely religious. Like that football coach who bowed his head during *student led optional prayers*. Or stuff like putting a nativity scene on city property even if there are menorahs already there.

Romney's a beast. We need to get out of control spending under wraps. He's got a proven record of creating jobs, a keen understanding of the economy, and is a genius. I'm not really sure if Romneycare is working out though. He gave the top 25% of students completely free scholarships to public colleges. Agreeing with him has nothing to do with being able to compromise and bring people together. He has shown he's not afraid to go after his party. He has a long history of working across the aisle. McCain-feingold, Immigration reform, global warming, going against the Bush administration when they were mishandling the war, the McCain detainee act, and the gang of 14. What has Obama done? It's been illegal for almost 100 years. Well I don't really have a problem with no bid contracts in themselves. They used no bid contracts in WW2. It gets stuff done faster and better but when companies abuse them thats when it should be reevaluated. I think Halliburton should have consequences but from what I've heard it was mainly KBR that over billed. Maliki does not support Obama's plan. He said 16 months would be a good time for us to be out. I think it would be too but if the situation were to reverse we would have to stay longer. Obama just doesn't understand Iraq. He made up his mind before the surge even began. He wanted to retreat instead of surge. Who was right there? I haven't seen him come out against it but it won't be in expanded use like McCain is proposing. And Harry Reid goes after that repository in the Yucca mountains pretty tough. Look at what they are proposing now. The American energy act is a comprehensive bill with increased drilling, clean coal, oil shale, nuclear, natural gas, biofuels, coal to liquids, solar, wind, and conservation. :wall: Bush is not a neocon. Even if that word meant anything he isn't. You could make that argument for guys like Doug Feith but neocon is just another hate word for jew. Almost all of the people I've heard called neocons are jews and David Duke uses that word interchangeably with jew. And he lowered taxes for everyone. The poor see a better percentage just less money. http://www.slate.com/id/2108201/ Who's tried to solve it? Thats just disgusting. You think he's damaged goods from serving our country as a hero? That would put you in the same boat as Bush supporters in 2000. You should probably find a different church then. And you can't disagree with Wright when he says white people created aids to kill blacks? or that Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor and let it happen? Or that God should damn the USKKKA? Just random bills he co sponsored aren't really meaningful. he was in the senate for something like less than 150 days before he decided to run for president. Well he did say that he thinks the D.C. gun ban was constitutional. Not too smart for a constitutional scholar. I could have told him that. Thats your money too. Why is it any better? Shouldn't we be against it completely? Just because it happens we should institutionalize unfairness? Your anti-free speech? It would be great and who worked on that bill? We've been through that. They only opposed it because they wanted a bill that wouldn't hurt retention. McCain had his own bill that I think had more money and wouldn't have hurt retention. Once they changed the bill McCain supported it and the President signed it.

It's those damn chinese. I remember a few months ago they were talking about how the chinese hacked into the computers of two congressmen. If anything happens it will probably be them.

Like that stops anyone?

I would hardly call Emory University biased. I haven't seen one paper that says the death penaly is not a deterrent. I have seen people attack the economists who have found that it is and one paper comparing states with the death penalty and states without it but thats it.

There are not more sources that point to it not being a deterrent. And comparing it to cutting off peoples hands for stealing or killing pregnant mothers is silly.

:wall: That doesn't mean 8 lives minimum will be saved... it indicates the unreliability of that source. Hell, even the final paragraph says other factors may have contributed to the results. It evidently wasn't even a scientifically correct study. Even within the margin of error there are still lives saved. Every statistical analysis I've seen shows that it is a deterrent.

Thats still 8 lives saved.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19160965

Magekillr, it wasn't all Ronald Reagan. Tip O'Neill was huge in it too. Maybe, but this means nothing unless it's actually working. Which it isn't. It is a deterrent. Each execution saves 18 lives. http://www.cjlf.org/deathpenalty/DezRub ... rFinal.pdf

^^ It's the daily show. They're not exactly going to portray him in a good light or show anything relevant. And who cares about Paris Hilton?

It's not so much a vote between the two as voting against Obama. I mean McCain is wrong on a lot of things. He's still better than Obama though. He's got a far better understanding of the war, a much better energy policy, *says* he'll balance the budget, and the supreme court are probably the main ones. I mean as a person McCain is probably the guy in congress I would respect most after Daniel Inouye. He should have run for President.

Country and classical music work just as well :twisted: . I've always wanted to get myself a a 69 charger and paint it as the General Lee and drive through east Oakland.