Ginger_Warrior

Not only that, but if you're on Job Seeker's Allowance in the UK, you're also entitled to free NHS prescriptions and exemption from council tax. Of course, any income you receive beyond a certain threshold is taxable anyway, but then on top of that you have start paying council tax because you're no longer on unemployment benefits. It's more of a problem with part-time workers than it is with full-time workers since those on permanent contracts receive sufficient money to take that hit, but I think going back to my own situation, if I'd have been successful in getting a job for 12-16 hours a week, I'd have been worse off financially than I would have been staying on JSA. That's a problem that's currently being compounded by the state of the economy. There's (relatively) plenty of part-time work going, full-time work is difficult to come by, for young people especially so.

It was ten applications per week when I was claiming unemployment benefits about six or seven months ago. When you consider the amount of time it takes to properly fill out a job application such that you have a decent chance of getting an interview, that seems fair to me. With hindsight, I guess there's an 80% chance I was leeching from society. And taking crack.

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Well... I mean I don't really feel comfortable getting into what I feel on this matter, and I'm certainly not going to argue incest is 'fine' or 'victimless', but as far as facts go, the psychological trauma inflicted on the girl depends on her age, and her relationship to the 'father figure'. I suppose something you'd also have to consider is the strain it would put on the girl's and the "father"'s relationship to the "mother"; not only is incest occuring, but also an extramarital affair, which itself is arguably immoral in the first place. There is also some anecdotal evidence of psychological trauma occuring as a result of incest between two consenting siblings, so just because they're consenting doesn't make it "OK". All in all, it's an incredibly complex issue and one most lay people respond to by saying, "Just don't do it."

Some plants can pollinate themselves and produce viable offspring actually. There's also a few countries in the modern, developed world which haven't legally prohibited incest when it occurs between two consenting adults (re: 'victimless crime'). You might be confusing the strength of society's opposition to incest with us being biologically hard-wired to believe it's wrong. It could also be that when it comes to forming our morality, psychosocial factors play far more of a part on a personal level than biological factors. If two adult siblings had consensual sex with each other without knowing they were related, would they still know it was 'wrong' through some innate biological response? Or would they only think it was wrong after they were told they were related? That's the difference between the biological and the psychosocial.

There was a really good article I once read but I can't remember the URL or website name for the life of me. I found this, but it doesn't specify whether people with, for example, music degrees are getting jobs in music, or whether the graduates are making more money than their non-graduate counterparts in other fields (admin, for example).

Should belong on the KONY thread, but it does annoy me: [hide=][/hide] Probably looking at the article as a response to the "click on Uganda" pic from 9gag.

I honestly meant that post as a joke, not a serious debating point, lol.

8th of March: "It's the 8th day of the month of March." "It's the month of March the 8th day of."

Oh, we're talking about cannibalism then.

To be fair, excessive meat consumption has been a factor in the recent trends of obesity. Not only that, but heart disease and renal failure (salt). However, the main point is this: If I want to eat healthily, I'll eat healthily. If I don't want to eat animals, I won't eat animals. Both statements stand to reason. "If I want to eat healthily, I won't eat animals," doesn't necessarily add up; it's quite easily possible to eat healthily and eat animals.

During my year at med school, there was only one other group of students that I really didn't envy when it came to workload. Drama students. The amount of work they technically have to do for the degree isn't much at all, but throw in all the stuff they realistically need to do in order to have any decent prospects for the future, and you've yourself got a stupidly hard schedule. They get on with it too, somehow, because it's something they just love doing. I don't like this notion that art students are lazy people who are temporarily avoiding the job market, and who will ultimately contribute nothing useful to society. That kind of course snobbery belongs on The Student Room, not here. And that's coming from someone with a heavy background in science and humanities.

I eat meat, but not whales. So if I went veggie, it would have no impact on whales. Cause, effect, and all that... Oh wait, this is PETA. "Reasoning... what's that?"

Bolton, eh? I'll just leave this here... :razz: (Don't respond to this post with one about UCLan... we could be at this for hours)

I read that art graduates earn less over their working lives than their non-university attending counterparts, so you're right on that front, but that only serves to emphasise my point. People are still going despite having their long-term wealth prospects damaged as a result, so they must be going for something other than money. In which case, what would raising their fees honestly achieve? Secondly, how do you deal with the flood of people entering courses which are more "favoured" upon? They can't all have jobs; if you increase the number of graduates without increasing the number of jobs for them to go into, you're just creating a much more serious problem three years down the line, when they end up with a degree, but queuing up for the dole, something they could just as easily have achieved without five years of taxpayer-funded education.

Exactly! Hence the use of fancy words has actually removed clarity, hasn't it? :wall: I give up...

Why do you assume that media/art students go to university to improve their income? We already prioritise tuition. The NHS bursery pays for all non-medicine healthcare courses, for example. There are still art students sharing rooms with student nurses.

I could tell my manager that we need more cleansing consumables and personal protective equipment. I could also say, "We've run out of soap and gloves, could you order some more, please?" Can you see now?

What exactly do you think the aim of effective communication is, if not to target what you're saying to the people you're saying it to?

You know you can buy wireless keyboards for the iPad right? Yes, if money is an issue I would definitely go with a lesser tablet. But you do lose out on the app store (main loss). You're right, but you're missing the point slightly. If I'm needing to buy a keyboard so I can sit at a desk and type (i.e. I'm using it as a stationary rather than a portable device), then I may as well not have a tablet, and I may as well be using a laptop/desktop instead, which for the same cost, I could arguably get better specs for anyway because it's 1) not Apple; and 2) not portable.

Generally, I try to talk on Tip.It like I'd talk to my friends 'in real life', minus all the stuff that would get me banned. I mean, if you're not here to be at least "pally"... what are you here for? This isn't Debate Club, nor is it an interview for Oxbridge. The words listed aren't words I'd usually use around friends anyway. Instead of "subsequently", I'd just say "after that".

Yup. I say this coming off of my 4th ban. Shit's ridiculous lately. At least it wasn't a 3 month ban though. You make it sound like a bad thing. Weren't you the one thanking the staff for banning you? I got shit done during that time but it was a long ban none the less. [/hide] They try, but miss their mark a lot and (I think) cause more tension and distrust, than positive, inspired feeling. This is coming from a former staff. I won't indulge in personal politics as an ex-staff member (although I could, believe me), but PR has been a severe problem for the admins for quite some time. It was pretty bad when I worked for them many years ago and hasn't got much better since.

Keyboards everyday of the week. They're more cost effective if they break, you can type faster with them, and they're better designed ergonomically. I'm not going to buy this because, if I'm being honest, I don't see what an iPad actually does that a cheaper tablet/mobile phone/PC can't already do, except be called an "iPad". I've yet to find an everyday function for an iPad that can't already be done by something else for considerably less.

But then they feel all self-conscious... :unsure: Like if a girl asks you out and you're blatently not interested, you don't ignore them or say, "Nah you too thugly kthxbai," right?

The flow of debate (what's left of it) on the OT board would be severely impeded by this, as would discussion on major breaking news stories where new information tends to come quite rapidly. Certainly, 24 hours would be too much not to cause harm.