compfreak847

Kinda offtopic: Do you know Zarfot? Also I wonder how the new "soul collecting" will work Not personally, but he joined tip.it to post on this thread a few dozen pages back and said he was following it. What "soul collecting" :?

Good, an article that's not all about bashing Jagex's CS. At least some people have some common sense -.-

I'd like to second my opinion for getting your own altar, it's a pain to get them off the RSOF. I'd offer mine, but no one has a house in rellekka :lol: Oh, and if you still have 3rd age left, I'll buy; I'll pay 11 tables for vambs, or 25 for ammy.

90m in clue scrolls from 1,200 green drags? At an average of ~160k a clue scroll, your getting a clue every other drag :? Didn't see anything about merching either, it would take years merch with 5m :-k Look, it's obvious your lying. It really doesn't matter. Give it up. There's some good advice on this thread.

Wahh. Fishing trawler sucks because my internet disconnected me. Wait, what? I think fight caves suck cause I DCed in there. So does GWD and barrows. :-s

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Ok, since you still haven't posted any of 'your' rates, I'll stick with those proven correct over thousands of hours of testing: Slayer: 65k XP, 90k profit Zombies; 103k XP, 190k profit Slayer is terrible profit - you actually lose money if you train it correctly. The sole purpose of training it is for fun, and when training it you are losing out on literally hundreds of thousands of GP and dozens of thousands of XP per hour just so you can train on 15 or so different monsters instead of 8.

Ok, less sum this up: Me: (160 hours) + ydrasil (170 hours) + Zarfot (Rank 42 slayer, Rank 26 overall, 1,800 hours) + Qeltar (450 hours) = 2,580 hours of slayer XP You: 50 hours of slayer XP, 2 hours of "a friend" testing. Never mind that we have 52 times the experience of you. Never mind that you DON'T EVEN HAVE THE STATS TO ACHIEVE OUR XP RATES. Never mind that you can't even GO to the tasks we're arguing about. You (level 72 slayer) and your mythical "jagex mod" vs. 4 experienced veteran players with a combined experience of over 45 million. Never mind that us 4 meticulously tested and recorded our data under carefully standardized conditions with predetermined equipment and carefully refined techniques. Never mind that you haven't provided even a scrap of proof of XP rates, or indeed, rates at all. Never mind that you haven't recorded anything about your methods. Never mind that you have said that you are using proven inferior ways to obtain your rates. Never mind that you haven't even read one tenth of my replys. Never mind that you aren't even PTP, so you can't test any of the things I'm talking about. Never mind that virtually every other poster on this thread has agreed with these numbers.

You have 365k range XP, which is 1,200 drags if you did nothing but range drags from level 1. 5m. You have 583,369 XP from level 70, so if you did nothing but cut yews the entire time you would make another 3.3k yews, or 1m cash. We're up to 6m. Now, for fishing, you have 1,259,902 XP from level 40, so if you did nothing but fish lobsters the entire time you would have 14k lobsters, or another 4m. That's a grand total of 10m, and I have my doubts about you ranging green drags at anything under level 60 range, or fishing 14k lobsters. Sooo, where did the other 90m magically appear from? Look, you don't need to try and lie about how much money you have. It's not going to earn you more respect, especially when it's an obvious lie. Sorry, just had to post and point that out -.- Anyway, yes, train your skills higher so you can make money faster, then build your own gilded altar.

Yes they are. The Wilderness has plenty of zombies...just not armoured zombies. Thanks for clearing that up :thumbup:

Again, i still don't know how you got your 90k profit number?? ffs, what tasks did you have that you tested this with? I know people who get nothing but good easy tasks with great profit. Maybe you're the one doing something wrong? because it seems to me most people seem to make more money offa slayer than you... I tested each task around 25 times when all numbers are included. I'm assuming your cannoning and using piety prayer for maximum XP when your doing your testing? How many hours have you and you anonymous friend tested this?

Here's an idea: Stop Being Dense. Slayer is FAR worse XP and money then Armored Zombies. Therefore, the XP and money suck. It's a fun skill; that's why I enjoy it. Here's the numbers again, for your benefit: Slayer: 65k XP, 90k profit Zombies: 103k XP, 190k profit Both of those numbers are correct. Therefore, Armored Zombies both earn more AND get more XP then slayer. Simple enough? In regards to testing, I have at least 600 hours of controlled testing under my belt. You have 'a friend' who 'tried it for 2 hours'.

If your barely missing, void will be much better. It's 15%, the KB is wrong. How is the KB wrong? It says +10% ranged, not +10% damage. Because a 10% boost in ranged is 10% damage and accuracy, like drinking a potion. Void is +15-+17%, over one and a half times that. Edit: Yay, black knight trainer

All of those are less then 60-70k XP\hour, usually at a cost. There's simply no comparison to chinchompas + avansies.

AGS = Worthless besides spec, fairly hard to get Claws = Worthless besides spec, harder to get then AGS Sounds good, right? Now here's the problem: Claws spec >>> AGS spec. Higher max, more accurate. Yet claws are harder to get. When it's all said and done, they should logically be higher then the AGS, which isn't showing any signs of falling. It remains to be seen how many people still believe in the myth that godsword > whip for PVP\Boss Monsters. I'm sure half a dozen people who read this will start screaming at me about how godsword is better. Take it to one of the many H&A threads I've posted on, I'm not going to start this fight all over again. Anyway, you can currently get claws + a godsword for non spec for less then the AGS, so we'll see. Claws should be at least 70m, though.

Whip > SS > D Scimmy > Obby\Necklace > D long > Godsword > Obby

Look, you can stop talking about what 'crazy' money demons are (actually, they're weak compared to green dragons). It does not matter what you get on a task. What does matter is the AVERAGE - and your arguing from a slayer level of 72, with melee stats in the low 80s. Obviously your not getting precisely what I am at armored zombies, nor are you doing anything resembling testing! You can't go there for 2 hours and then trumpet your XP rates as final, it requires literally dozens of hours to even attempt to get an accurate number. It's the averages that count - and mine are carefully calculated using literally hundreds of hours of testing by me, ydraisel, Zarfot, and Qeltar. Your one person with mid 80s stats and 72 slayer trying to argue about tasks that you won't even be getting in the next dozen levels! I respect your opinion, but there is a difference between opinions and facts. I'm not trying to argue about how fun slayer is. It's one of my favorite skills, and it's made me millions. What I AM arguing is that it is crappy XP. This is not an opinionated debate. It does not matter how fun you find it or how much you hate grinding blah blah blah. What matters is the cold hard XP rates - and unless you can show me some REAL testing to prove mine wrong, I'll take the numbers of myself and 3 other maxed, experienced players over a level 110 who's tried it for 2 hours.

So what? I bought my claws a week ago for 77m. I really wouldn't care if they crashed, I'd sell it and move on. It'd make PKing a whole lot better - right now, you basically have to hope there's no d claws around when your opponent teles or eats twice while your at mid to low HP in DH.

Individual tasks do not matter. You can list how many great drops you got from X task all day, but in the end it's the averages that count - and my averages are correct. Secondly, clue scrolls are worthless. They are barely 200k an hour, and nowhere near worth the time to do. Best left on the ground, I count no clues as an advantage at armored zombies :-X Sorry to invalidate your long post with such a short one, but that's how it is.

This would work. Yeah, that's what I suggested; a delay would keep its 'ko during a fight' potential alive, but ruin the '2spec1hit' deal we have going on right now.

Zombies arn't in the wild...

Armored Zombies, single way combat, aggressive monsters.

I want the spec nerfed, not them :P

Avansies + Chinchompas = 160k XP\hour, free. Blows away every other training spot.

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