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I noticed something else about those portraits of the King in the Tower basement. When you examine them they say "A painting of the King looking royal." There are tons of identical paintings of the king elsewhere, in particular Lumbridge castle and the Blue Moon Inn in Varrock. However, all of those paintings say "Hail to the King!" when you examine them. I think that's rather curious. I also noticed that there are many very ornate decorative candlesticks in the basement. That's peculiar. Most basements in Runescape are lit with torches that are hung on the walls. But these candlesticks are golden and are all along the wall nearest to the room with the altar. Perhaps these ornate candlesticks are used in ceremonies for the secret society. That would only seem to explain their presence in a dingy basement like that.

And sell it to the government and military!! 8-) Just don't sell it to the Russians, even if they do offer more, because we don't need another...well you know... Looks like we...I mean, the Russians...will just have to steal it and kill him. : What if you use concave mirrors instead of flat ones? That MIGHT make it more powerful...

Even a farting emote would help. . . relieve slome of that built up pressure in there.

I came up with a joke awhile back that went like this: How many Drunken Dwarf randoms does it take to change a lightbulb? 11. 1 to hold the lightbulb and 10 to drink until the room spins.

Way back when I was a member I did errands for him and he made me bring him a bunch of bars. Maybe he's arming himself? Anyway, back to summoning. I did the Restless Ghost quest on my secondary account, and when you go to get the skull from the altar in the Tower basement, that skeleton in the corner jumps up and attacks you. It's obviously a dead skeleton, maybe one of the bigger wizards in the tower put a necromancy spell on that skeleton so that it will attack anyone that disturbs the society's meeting place.

Didn't this same subject already get locked?

A heavy metal emote. You character produces a guitar and starts going insane, with a behind the back, headbanging, crawl-on-the-floor, face-melting guitar solo. A sitting emote. We've been standing up for 5 years straight. Our characters really need some rest.

Hugh_Mannity is my favorite.

A lead!! http://www.zybez.net/tomes.php?id=44 This is from a book about WOM's life from a members quest. As it says, he was active in the Saradominist church, active enough to vandalize the Zamorakian temple. The kind of person you'd expect to join a secret society, right? He could have easily become a priest, but perhaps his "other plans" involved gaining membership in the secret society. Read on... Why would somebody as devoted to Saradomin as WOM turn down the chance to live and study on Entrana? That doesn't make much sense. I think something happened to him about this time that disillusioned him, maybe he was denied entry to the secret society and was so disappointed with the Saradominist church that he decided to wander around instead of going to Entrana. It's also possible that he was related to the King of Varrock at the time (not Roald, but Roald's father), and was somehow set to inherit the throne when Roald's father died. However, he had Roald just prior to his death, and WOM wasn't able to inherit the throne. It says that he was 15 when he decided to wander around, and if Roald was born about then, I'm guessing WOM is in his 60s or 70s judging by appearance, which would put Roald at about 45-55 years old. If you ever look at Roald, I would say 45-55 is a good estimate based on appearance, wouldn't you? Maybe they're connected. Maybe the King of Varrock is the traditional "leader" of the secret society, a role that nobody outside of the society knows about. Perhaps WOM wanted both kingship and leadership of the secret society. Being a powerful mage that he is, he could have used his new power position to wage a final war on the Zamorakians and crushed them. Now he finally wants to do this, by killing off Roald and taking his place, using his wealth from the bank robbery to help him raise a powerful military, and his skill in magic to help as well. That leads me to think about the whole family lineage question. Maybe WOM is Roald's uncle. It's possible the WOM was the rightful inheritor of the throne, and that Roald has some kind of illegitimacy somehow. Maybe this and the fact that Roald got the throne over him has made him angry enough to want to commit murder. Maybe he has bided his time to get himself in a position like this to finally pull it off.

I forgot to mention that skeleton. That should really set off some alarms. I'm going to do the Restless Ghots quest on my other account to see what I can come up with. If you've heard of the Skull and Bones Society - at Yale university, or maybe it was Harvard - that a lot of really important people were apart of, maybe that's the significance of the skull or the skeleton.

Hmm...he might have summoned the penguins and now he can't get rid of them...which would explain why he would want us to kill the monster (read: penguins) under his bed. Well I did some more investigating today in the basement of the Wizard's Tower. I tried to find the spot where WOM's telescope is pointing, but it was off the map somewhere. His telescope points to 2 places; first it points close to the 3 logs on the ground floor, and then over to the table with the boot respawn. The 1st spot is right above the northeast corner of Seridor's room, right were the weird-looking tapestry is, but the second spot isn't anywere within the map. I looked back into the area where you're supposed to get the skull from during the restless ghost quest. A lot of things about that area struck me as curious. First, there's Saradomin altar down there, probably from a new graphics update. But the area his separated in two by a fence, kind of like prison bars. Why would you put an altar to Saradomin in such a secluded place, behind big iron bars? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, unless alterior motives are somehow involved. What if there is some kind of Saradominist secret society that gathers down there? I mean, look at all the secrecy involved with it. An altar in the basement behind prison bars - weird. The Catholic Church has Opus Dei, maybe the curch of Saradomin has something similar that WOM is trying to get involved in or uncover. Outside of that area is a smaller room with a large bed. There are portraits of a King, probably of Varrock, on the walls. There were no similar portraits anywhere else in the tower. Ironically, when I examined the big bed, it said "fit for a king." I made a connection with that - could the King be a frequent visitor of the tower's basement? Why would the King possibly want to visit the basement? Could the King of Varrock be a member of this secret society, and makes regular trips down there to participate in the society's meetings or rituals? Could he live down there and sleep in the bed during his more extended stays? This got me thinking; maybe there's some kind of political background to WOM, or some political motive to his actions. It's possible that he hates the wizards in the tower because he tried to join this secret Saradominist society but was rejected, and is seeking revenge on them by destroying the society or exposing it and blowing their cover. But... What if the King is not only a member of the secret society, but is their leader? What if it was the King himself that had rejected WOM's entry to the secret society? Now, maybe WOM is seeking revenge against the King and his society. This could be why he is waiting to attack the tower, until the next meeting of the society. That way the King will be in the tower when he attacks, and could possibly burn down the tower while the King is inside, killing him and completing WOM's revenge. I wonder if WOM has any relation to the King...he could be the King's brother, and since the King has no known children, WOM would claim power if the King were to die. Well, I'm going to look into this further. By the way, secret societies = totally awesome. Since this hypothetical society has no known name, I think it's our civic duty to give it one that we can refer to it as. I'll open the floor with: "Opus Saradomin." :mrgreen:

As do I. Especially when you get 4-5 people who get really into it.

Hitting water at 900kph is harder than hitting concrete at 900kph, believe it or not. Even if his parachute had failed and he DID land in water, very few of his remains would be found.

Still good, hope to see this continued.

This guy was only the first man in the thermosphere. Yuri Gagarin was actually in SPACE.

I'll try.

The skull was part of the restless ghost quest, so I don't think the penguins would be after that. Someone on another thread found a table with a tray of cookies in the top floor of the wizard's tower. That's a little bit peculiar. I've also been noticing some different forms in the log in screen flames. If you watch it for awhile you get some shapes that look like no runes I've ever seen.

Ahem...*Milankovitch Cycles!* Yes, my friends, there's not a thing we can do.

Zdravstvuiytye! Kak tyebya zovut? I don't see what the point is about worrying over death. You're going to die anyway, it's just a matter of time. EDIT: If you're not convinced, William Shatner sums it up a lot better than me: Live life Live life like you're gonna die Becasue you're gonna I hate to be the bearer of bad news But you're gonna die Maybe not today or even next year But before you know it you'll be saying "Is this all there was? What was all the fuss? Why did I bother?" Now, maybe you won't suffer maybe it's quick But you'll have time to think Why did I waste it? Why didn't I taste it? You'll have time Because you're gonna die. Yes it's gonna happen because it's happened to a lot of people I know My mother, my father, my loves The president, the kings and the pope They all had hope And they muttered just before they went Maybe, I won't let go Live life like you're gonna die Because you are Maybe you won't suffer maybe it's quick But you'll have time to think Why did I waste it? Why didn't I taste it? You'll have time 'Cause you're gonna die I tell you who else left us Passed on down to heaven no longer with us Johnny Cash, JFK, that guy in the Stones Lou Gehrig, Einstein, and Joey Ramone Have I convinced you? Do you read my lips? This may come as news but it's time You're gonna die You're gonna die By the time you hear this I may well be dead And you my friend might be next 'Cause we're all gonna die Yeah, oh maybe you won't suffer and maybe it's quick But you'll have time to think Why did I waste it? Why didn't I taste it? You'll have time You'll have time cause you're gonna die Yes, you're gonna die You're gonna die, I tell you You're gonna die You are gonna die 'Cause maybe you won't suffer maybe it's quick But you have time to think Why did I waste it? Why didn't I taste it? You'll have time 'cause you're gonna die Live Life Life life like you're gonna die Because you're going to Oh yes I hate to be the beater of bad news But you're gonna die Maybe not today or even next year But before you know it you'll be saying "Is this all there was? What was all the fuss? Why did I bother? Why did I waste it? Why didn't I taste it?" You'll have time, baby You'll have time 'Cause you're gonna die You are gonna die Oh yeah

That was Rune Mysteries, and in the basement there was a skull in an isolated room, and when you picked it up a skeleton magically appeared. You had to use the skull for something, I can't remember. And I was serious about the penguin thing. I mean, how could this nice, kindly old man turn into a deranged, bank robbing maniac, bent on destroying something in the Wizard's Tower? I think the thing on his desk, the "transport" as he believes it to be, is some kind of blimp that penguins can fly. They're the only things small enough to fit on it, right? Maybe penguins have been slowly staging an escape from the Penguin Island and they're hiding themselves among Runescape in preparation for a large-scale attack? Maybe in the course of these preparations, a penguin transport went down and WOM found it and put it on his desk. Maybe there was still a penguin in the transport. Penguins have had tons of time on their little island to build an advanced society, possibly with superior brain capacities that allow them to control people's minds. When WOM found the transport, there was probably a single survivor of the crash, who used its mind control to force the WOM to hide it in his house. To gain materials for their attack, the penguin is controlling WOM to get players to get supplies for the penguin attack. Think about this: The man sacked the Draynor Bank, and all he did was cover some things in gold? What do gold bars cost, about 700 gps? An entire bank probably had about 20-30 million gps in there, that couldn't have been all he used the money on. Perhaps most of the money went back to the penguins, who are using it to buy more materials for their conquest, or to pay the members who do errands for WOM (actually the penguins). Also consider this: When you're a member and you do errands for WOM (actually the penguins), sometimes he'll give you a bunch of runes. Why would somebody who is running short of runes, as he claims, give out lots of free runes to people who run errands for him? Perhaps he doesn't realize that the penguins are using his runes to pay players, and he thinks he's just running low? It's possible that every so often there's a lapse in the mind control where WOM goes back to normal, and maybe that's when he asks members to "kill the monster under his bed," which is actually a penguin hiding, and WOM is asking the player to free him from mind control...

Seriously? We had some speculation about that a few pages ago. Some people who investigated found that when WOM sent them to "kill the monster" under his bed, they claimed it looked somewhat like a Kalphite. I've never seen it myself, but if the thing is really a penguin then it wouldn't surprise me. Wow, this opens up a whole new area of penguin-related theories. "Here be penguins," the penguin-sheep, what's going on? Are penguins trying to infiltrate Runescape through sheep disguises? Perhaps WOM is just a puppet controlled by penguins...

You guys are way behind. I did penmanship and grammar in pre-school. :oops: :XD:

Take a trip back to Russia. Photograph a tornado. Get paid to photograph tornadoes. Dodge the draft. Find someone special...:oops:

I'm a loyalist...Tip.It! :thumbsup:

Yeah, that one. I was wrong.