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I'm stumped. The only conclusion I can possibly draw is that the people of Gielinor are slowly drifting away from all the three gods to worship a greater deity. A deity thought dead a long time ago, but in fact was still alive, waiting for the chance to get revenge against Zamorak. Zaros could be coming back. Anyway, another possible conclusion is that they have fused all three gods together to create the ultimate god, and they make note of it by crossing three symbols/colours of the three gods together. And a final theory is that they simply worship any god they feel like. I was trying to get at the possibility that the alliances are already beginning to form for the next God War. Guthix's representation in a Zamorak temple might mean that Guthix is already aligned with Zamorak. Zamorak must be at some kind of disadvantage, because Guthix wouldn't side with him otherwise. Probably, because of Zaros being a major threat again, Zamorak's chances are looking pretty slim which is making Guthix side with him. That temple was pretty new, too. Not half destroyed like the other one.

Wow, what a wealth of new information. I'll try to organize this post as best as I can. First off, I noticed from the pictures provided by our fearless investigators showed matching armor in both Kandarin and Lumbridge: The suits of armor, white with a red trim around the shield, and a yellow plume on the helmet. That appears to be Kandarin's colors, especially the shield, but what on earth is it doing in Lumbridge? Anway, the carpets. I noticed that both the red and green carpets, the colors of Zamorak and Guthix, also had black symbols of Saradomin on them. Wenlok and Randox probably remember, but for those that don't, the three of us went through the wilderness looking for clues, and inside the Chaos temple in the northwest part of the Wildy there were red carpets with black Saradomin symbols on them. And we all thought it was incredibly weird. The symbols have turned up on carpets in Lumbridge and Kandarin, too. The Chaos temple also had windows with trees in them, correct? Now, Guthix is sometimes called the god of Nature. A tree would be a prime candidate for a representation of Guthix. Black symbols of Saradomin turning up in major cities, and inside a Zamorakian temple with possible ties to Guthix. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions. :mrgreen: I find it weird that Misthalin's colors are purple and green, because I have never seen the color purple anywhere in Varrock. I also forgot that King Roald might be the leader of Opus Saradomin, that would aid WOM a whole lot when destroying the tower. The black knights are pretty much begging to be blamed for something like that. I've concluded that WOM is Joe, Wenlok. See how cleverly he's playing both sides against each other? :P And welcome Latinoking, another member added.

How do you figure 200 years old? I know that the gypsy lady in Varrock square is 210 ish years old (she tells you to count the legs on the stools in the Blue Moon Inn and multiply that number by another number, 7 I think). And she doesn't look like it at all. Her hair is even gray, not white like WOM's is. That made me believe that WOM is older than she is. Plus, WOM has been all over the world and knows it better than anyone else. That's a task that takes a really long time to accomplish :P

You were right, there are now 2 right outside Varrock's north gate, and 1 in the Jolly Boar. I wonder what's going on here...

It would be hilarious to stand under that and watch the balls smack passersby in the head. :XD:

Hold up on the tower, Randox. I think Lumbridge is the next place to go. It has the oddly-coloured Saradomin symbols all over the castle. The Tower is a good place to go for a culminating investigation, to tie up all the loose ends. It's interesting that Varrock is only about 175 years old (that's about right, according to the Knowledge Base). That means that King Roald's family lineage is relatively young. That's only about 5 generations right there. WOM may himself be 200 or more years old. WOM has probably been alive through all 4 of Roald's ancestors, plus Roald. Interesting, don't you think? Here's anothing thing. Do you think some of Roald's ancestors were the leaders of the original settlement of Avarrocka? Could Roald's ancestors have been the ones who took in Arrav and then sent him on his quest? An interesting drama is beginning to play out here. And in a nonroundabout way, Xewleer, are the 2 black knights close together? Because there is that one black knight that hangs around in that saloon on the edge of the Wilderness, too. Does this mean that there are now 3 black knights? (Look at me, I'm calling it a saloon now. Curse you Wenlok :P )

I confess that I'm actively planning on using what everyone has said in this thread to become a bounty hunter... :twisted:

Pray for the continuation to be released on Monday. :pray: Ha, hilarity. The Black Knights, the elite warriors of King Roald. That would be very funny.

Mine is more of a slap-your-head-and-groan-about-where-the-world-has-gone-to stat. Prior to 1960, Kuwait City had only one main road, and was enclosed by a mud wall. Take a look at Kuwait City now:Yay petroleum.

Wow, Skeeran, that's a good find. :D Are those the skeletal mages that Malignus Mortifier summons? For Alebcay, the Arrav story says that the tribe taught Arrav all of his skills, not the other way around, but I can see where you're going. Little details like the sun and moon being in the sky at the same time ought to be significant. Maybe it was an eclipse? I know some ancient civilizations witnessed an eclipse and thought that the moon god was devouring the sun god. So the thought of Arrav being the son of 2 gods is reasonable, I think. But which 2 gods, I wonder? The story also said that Arrav's shield was an "artifact" that was long desired by the Mahjarrat. Arrav's story took place a really long time ago, and if they called the shield an "artifact" back then, then the shield must be really, really, old. After looking at the Knowledge Base, Arrav must have been around at the very early part of the 4th age, when settlements were barely permanent. So the shield must be something out of the God Wars, and extremely powerful. It would have given Zemouregal extreme power if he got a hold of it, according to the story. The story even says that the shield didn't belong to this world. Judging by the shield's blue and white color, it may have been the personal shield of Saradomin, who knows. I'm curous, the history also said something about Robert the Strong, another hero like Arrav. I hope Jagex tells us more. Another thing, the history salked about how sometimes in the 4th age that rogue necromancers would summon armies of undead warriors and lay waste to lots of things, which fits in to what we've speculated.

I guess those beds are reserved only for the wealthy and the powerful. Seridor has one too, I think. Malignus Mortifier once said that the wizards in the tower used to be completely Saradominists and didn't want to open the tower up to Zamorak mages. That was one of the reasons that the first tower got burnt down. Maybe the wizards are a little more tolerant, since they've let Grayzag in. Maybe the monarchs don't like "tolerance" too much.

Happens to me all the time, but then I just have inhumanly low blood pressure.

I don't understand what the commotion is all about... :-s

You are not funny. You are immature and are only serving to get this post locked for spam, and thus ruining the combined efforts of several dozen hard-working individuals. So shut up now.

I completely missed that. You've got quite an eye, amigo. @ Trobi: A fallen S symbol, is that like the squigle symbol on the Guthix Platebodies? @ Randox: Wow, excellent findings. Now we have an eerie link between the king and the tower basement, rather than just speculation like before. It's the same 4 poster bed, which is pretty rare in Runescape. The only difference is the color of the beds.

How about we plan for the next meeting some time after the histories get updated? We'll have a lot to talk about then (plus I'll be traveling on Saturday.)

Still, why would WOM be the person to give out the quest cape? Couldn't whomever is in charge of the achievement capes have picked someone else? He still wears a Saradomin cape, if I'm not mistaken.

It WOULD be pretty sweet to be wanted...my bounty could go up with each player I kill. :-w

Steven Wright is hilarious. He is the embodiment of my own personality. I actually talk like he does, even before I'd heard any of his routines. :P

If I refused to do what the government told me to, could I become an outlaw? I wan to be an outlaw! :mrgreen: But this seems like a pretty cool idea. I would do it...just to become an outlaw.

^Hey, yeah, he gives out capes of achievement for those who have completed all the quests. Wait, don't all the other NPCs who do that actually wear the capes they give out? I've seen them around F2P world, like the head of the crafting guild, brother Jerred, and the Lumbridge melee tutor. WOM doesn't wear his! Why is that, I wonder?

Ah, I forgot the imps were part of Zamorak's army, slashing at the shins of the enemies. Oops, I guess Grayzag is a Zamorakian after all. :oops: I also forgot that the Tower of Life wizards aren't necromancers. They create life from nothing, while necromancers revive the dead. But that doesn't neccessarily mean that necromancy is completely evil, as Wenlok pointed out. I think Sentenza is under WOM's bed. He's a monster after all. :mrgreen:

Is the new Tower of Life very close to the Necromancer's tower? I sort of remember thinking so...anyway, the wizards in the Tower of Life may be the good necromancers, and the other is an evil necromancer. He summons undead things after all, which is characteristic of Zamorak's followers, like Malignus Mortifier. However, that makes me wonder if Grayzag is evil, because all he summons are imps. Curious. And I'll take a quick survey of the J-Mods today and find out what they think. :wink:

I know necromancy isn't all bad, but if I remember correctly the necromancer by Ardougne drops red robes of Zamorak when you kill him. Something is still very fishy about that. It's about time the histories page got updated. I've been waiting forever. Uncovering more clues about the God War (which hopefully gets included into the histories updates) will help us out a lot. I still think it's incredibly eerie that Guy was mentioned...I don't know. If we start seeing NPCs named Sergio, or Monco, Mortimer, Sentenza, Tuco, Blondie, Indio, or two gangs called the Rojos and Baxters, we'll know that Jagex is stalking us.

Is anyone else really confused now? :-w