sig battle him nad ;) Are you telling him to sig battle me? There's no need for that. Nad knows that I respect him and just telling him my opinion. yeah i don't gotta battle him, lol he'd whup me anyways :oops: anyways, i'll try 'n spiffy it up more tomorrow, i'm not much of a layout person but i'll give it a shot. Any idea's on what to do? I'm getting stuck on that part :P Did you try maybe like soft silver gel buttons for the menu buttons? Soft greys seems like they would work here.