fenrir321

listen to this man he may be some sort or Scientist. +5 for the statement of illegal drop trading +2 for the scientist comment \

If you read the Development Diary Runescape vs. RWT, then you'll see why Jagex did this. Bounty Hunter doesn't live up to the Edgeville pking, that's obvious. But it is still a good way to pk, you just have to tweak your brains for different strategies. You can still trade up to 30k with only 200 qp (that's not that hard to get). The staking thing is kind of a "You can't drink under 21" in the U.S. because people aren't responsible enough here...unlike in Europe where there's NO drinking age in Italy. It's annoying, but all for the good of RS. As for drop trading, I have no sympathy for you. Drop trading is, was, and forever will be ILLEGAL. Though it's frustrating to know that's a few less rares in the system. Oh wait, that's right, they're WORTHLESS. I never get harassed by noobs to show my qp cape emote, just the occasional, "I can I see emote plz?"

This is exactly like my Toktz-xil-ak with a berserker necklace. Out of 15 people who have asked me about it, 10 have said ,"Why not use a d scimmy?", and 1 went so far as to say, "I bet you have 80 summoning since that's the best nooby weapon you can wield." I was on the 100+ boat in pc with 114 combat...SERIOUSLY, WHY DO I HAVE TO TRAIN LIKE SINGLE [cabbage] PERSON???? Can't I train with an obby mace or sword if I want to? Geeze, I'd actually want to have a Saradomin Godsword out of all of them. Bandos is for pve 1v1 boss battles Armadyl is for 1v1 pvp Zamorak is for bounty hunter and FoG ~~~Saradomin is for 1v100 pve/pvp~~~ Since both you and I like the 1v100 pve/pvp battles, I don't blame you for wanting it, I'm so jealous -.- And why do the Zamorak and Armadyl hilts look nothing like the actual symbols of those gods? Unlike Bandos and Saradomin.

First off, OMG DON'T SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO COUNTER THIS STRATEGY NOW THAT YOU'VE SAID IT!!111!!!!1111 Lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Anyway, there is a big hole in it: If you wait for them until they see you, even if they run out of energy, at the center the energy regain rate is about 5%/second. And you gain almost nothing at the outer reaches. So, if you get unlucky or you mess up, this tactic could actually work against you.

Well, I'm not saying either way is right or wrong, just keep this in mind: Why do people want to get 99 in all their skills asap? Maybe they do have fun working like that. But that's just it; it's work. This "game" would become a second job that you're actually paying to do instead of getting paid. For this game to truly become a game where people would have fun, I would advise to enjoy that little shadow from that torch in HD, or playing Trouble Brewing or even Gnomeball just for the heck of it. There is a truth to "get a life and do something else IN REAL LIFE, noob". Recently, I have reached a conclusion that 85% of the people who play Pest Control are not having fun; it's just a repetitive task, and the only thing which drives them is their goal of 70 prayer (mine), 99 strength, 99 Magic, etc. And then those same people will most like whine and complain about going to school/college. Why? They will most likely use less energy doing 7 hours of school (or more for other schools) versus 4 hours of Pest Control. The classes maybe the same almost everyday, but there's something new them everyday as well. At Pest Control it's literally the same thing every single [cabbage] time: kill the portals with the same strategies. So far, I have not found out the reason why I want to play Runescape over going to school even though I'm most likely using more energy and "playing" a mini-game I do not care for. And yes there ARE goals for life just like Runescape. It's called "Valedictorian", "Vandelbelt (sp? :oops: )", UTK, Doctor's degree in Theology, etc. If you find a good, valid reason why people PAY money to work instead of play, pm and I'll kiss your feet in response : . Also, I keep telling my mom, "I don't want to go back to school!" And she says, "You're playing a school-life genre video game on your Playstation 2..." I need to get a life #-o

The mace is slower than the sword and against monsters with universal weaknesses, the sword is much better purely because of its speed. And at some point, weapon lvls will eventually be the reason why some weapons are better than others (which is how it should be). Even though people know that blue dragons are weak to stab and ranged attacks, no one purely kills them with a dds. Sure, they bring a dds for its specials, but then mostly everyone switches to their dragon scimitar or whip. Why? Because your offense does matter. I highly doubt that even though the blue drags would be weak to the obby sword, the abyssal whip would kill it faster even with a zerker necklace. Of course, there is one thing I forgot to mention: because the toktz-xil-ak + berserker necklace combo heavily relies on the stats of the wielder, I could be wrong with the above example if a lvl 120 started killing them with an obby sword as opposed to a lvl 100 using the combo.

Wrong. The sword has +50 stab and +41 slash when used alone. The zerker neck takes away 10, so ti is +40 stab +31 slash. mace: 52 accuracy, 56 strength whip: 82 accuracy, 82 strength ~~~The zerker neck adds 20% to yuor DAMAGE, not your strength, everything you hit will be 25% higher. a 10 would be a 12 for example.~~~ NOW REMEMBER OUR TARGET IS AS WEAK TO SLASH AS IT IS TO CRUSH You might want to check your attack stats: a toktz-xil-ak has +47 stab +38 stab attack on its own and +37/+28 with the necklace. I have no idea how you got on to the topic of comparing the mace. I never mentioned the mace in my post at all. If you're trying to say that the sword can out hit the whip in terms of accuracy, then that would only happen if the most had a case of Ahrim's armor ie it has +200 slash defense but +0 stab defense, which basically does not exist with melee. If you were trying to make a logical argument with someone else, then why did you quote me? :oops:

I find this moderately interesting: In the result, the highest strength bonus equipment for all slots except weapon and neck is the constant. The strength bonus of said items is: 40. The variables are a whip + fury amulet, and a tztok-xil-ak (obby sword) + a berserker necklace. Respectively, the strength bonuses of the two sets are 130 and 96. The result is assuming that the attacker is using piety and a dragon battle axe special attack/super strength potion. Using a max hit formula which I find to be 99% accurate (it's not TipIt's), These are the max hits of the whip + fury and the obby sword +zerker: Whip- ~47.74 Tztok-xil-ak: ~47.75 Obviously, .01 damage does nothing, it is just there to say that the obby sword does in fact hit harder than a whip and at the same speed as well. Of course in general monster killing, the whip obviously wins, with a slash attack bonus of 105 using the relative above set, whereas the obby sword has measly +50 stab and +41 slash attack bonuses. If you want the formula I used, I'm not sure I can post it because though I know the website where it is from, I do not know the author and therefore cannot credit him/her.

Thanks for the awesome picture!! I'll put it as my desktop if I decide that it's better than my avatar (which is pretty sweet at 1024x1260) That is the biggest piece of [cabbage] I have every heard of. He just jealous cause you lost him by a a couple of charges instead of 100+ like he expected :roll:

Actually according to the max hit formula I found (find the answers to be 99.9% corect to me), I would actually hit MORE than my whip using a toktz-xil-ak and berserker necklace. Also, the whole point of buying and using this set is against monsters with low defense ei you'll hit 5/6s of the time regardless of your attack bonus (which is what happens to some of my slayer assignments and a lot of the times in pest control.) I find that the set not only looks cool, but is a very good investment in training strength. Of course this is coming from someone whose attack and defense levels recently were at least 3 levels higher than her strength ;) .

Since it takes so long to buy them, try making them instead? Saves a lot of cash from my point of view.

yea rofl, thinking the same. ss is so baaad imo Sara sword is currently the best weapon besides the godsword to effectively train strength. In this order from best to worst: any gs 27m-94m Sarasword 7m-9m obby sword + zerker necklace 650k-750k D scimmy 95k D long 95k All except maybe the gs pale in comparison to the whip + rune def combo, though the ss spec is awesomeness.

Just wondering: Does defense noob only apply if your defense is higher than any other combat stat, or does it just apply when they can't hit you in bad armor? :thumbsup: \ : :roll:

It took me a few minutes to get the joke :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: Still there's no reason to insult others just to make comedy. There are other ways to make other people laugh with just the same amount of cleverness (is that even a word? :lol: ). Still, it isn't really fair for someone to report another for offensive comments if they don't even say "Hey, that offends me. Don't say it, please." That just opens up a door for someone like you to continue to make jokes without even knowing that someone was offended. I bet someone was actually lying and wanted more just so they could report you. Freakin wana be mods.

just making sure, you realize that you don't get the gloves for free, but you buy them 130k right? I just wanted to make sure I didn't dishearten you. Also, do you read the quest storylines? If you don't (like most people), then you're missing out on a lot. Everything is a storybook in quests. I would actually like a quest that gives a reward to let you re-watch cut scenes from events and quests completed. And you do realize, that eventually, they'll come out with a quest that gives good equipment but will require like 250 qp, right? I bet alot of the people already laughing at you will bropbably crack then #-o

there are four distinct advantages to being a higher lvl: more prayer to exhaust/different prayers more hp more summoning points/familiars higher lvl equipment If everyone had the same equipment and hp/prayers/familiars, then the whole thing would be about strategy since the levels in themselves don't matter in this game (my favorite part \ )

FoG is one of my favorite minigames (behind Temple trekking and Barbarian Assault). It's like chess; anticipate your opponent's moves by intercepting them. I admit, I am a ring-around-the-rosie noob. I'm a house noob. I'm a runner noob. I'm a tele to center and run the other way noob. I just love to death dot in the center and move around when they search for me. The people who flame others for using these tactics are the noobs. Did I mention that I'm also a wall hugging noob? Save the walls from anti-wall players! :wall: Noobs that ruin my game: Fr33 tock3n5 pl0x. Let me winzz pleeze I just need x item Flaming noobs The "to make it easier for you" arrogant son of a [cabbage] noobs :evil: teh noobish noobs :roll: Meh, just give the respect your opponent deserves: treat them kindly, don't throw a game or make it easier for them because it is a slap in the face to their effort basically, and don't flame people for their strategies; just learn from your actions. Seriously, if you lose to a specific strategy, use it in your next game! mix and match spells and armor in this game. There are tons of possibilities (like the d spear spec prevents your opponent form eating for 3 seconds while also moving them back.) Utilize the hotkeys hat Jagex specifically designed for this game (F1-F8). Good combinations of spells/equipment: Ice barrage + d bolts spec/dark bow Saradomin strike + charge. It drains prayer Rune crossbow + d bolts and finish with dark bow spec Zgs spec and finish with barrelchest anchor spec Bone cbow spec all curses and binds are good staples seercull spec (for when youre the hunted against a mage) Any familiars that can fight are good Any prayers that boost stats are good Void mage is a good alternative to ahrims Void range is good for cbow/dark bow combo Sgs spec is when youre the hunted for healing purposes Any gs spec (except for bandos) is good here D mace and dlong specs are good in place of seercull spec, zamorak flames is a good alternative, but not nearly as effective D scimmy can be good for finishing blows I have recently found out that a obby sword + berserker necklace hits harder than a dscimmy. Since this game heavily relies on equipment, stab and slash bonuses are important. speaking of which, a zammy spear is a good alternative to the d spear, being as fast as a whip.

You were obviously the person the old graveyard forums used to laugh at for carrying tele runes, safe eating and praying 1v1. Bounty hunter is a disgrace to pking, it is OVER. The player honor system is gone, and Jagex has wrecked it for all us oldschool skillful pkers. You touched on the 3 things that has destroyed Runescape. At first I complained about the utter stupidiness of Jagex releasing the all time worst update ever - Pest Control - but now there are worse problems on our hands. I'm pretty sure Jagex has forgotten who first helped them out in the beginning and who loved their game for what it was, us oldschoolers. Now I guess the money is flowing for them and they'll be happy to introduce half minded updates to keep the under 13s amused for yet another week. GG Jagex, here since the beginning, im OUT. Tele runes: check Safeing: check prayer 1v1: check DUH, seriously, anyone who DIDN'T bring these things or used them is a complete idiot. Of course it's frustrating when you hit someone almost to 0 hp and then they eat, but I'm 99.9% sure that that person doesn't give any mind to how you feel. they want your items, not your respect. (The .1% is for people who actually think the land of Zamorak, the god of chaos and destruction, is a chivalrous place.) I have to admit that the vast majority of my pking was in the duel arena (wildy style), so I never followed the the so-called "honor system". The wilderness is (was) free for all no rules. The people who made up those rules are the ones who couldn't get a good kill, not the "honorable" pkers. You claw your way to the top to come out victorious. You still do in bh. If you're going to get nostalgic, then please don't call other people "half-minded." Anyway, back to the topic of discussion: why are we discussing this update 7 months later? No use in beating a dead horse. In such a sharp divide, there can't be any sympathy. If you like the updates, stay. If you don't, you have two options: stay and adapt to them or play another game. Surely, playing no game at all is better than playing a game you hate, plus, you have an extra $60 a year. And ranting about it is not going to bring back pking. Jagex specifically said that the kill and loot system is gone forever, so why waste energy ranting about it?

First off, you can't sell shards on ge. Second, it's 70% not 75%. If buying on the forums goes for as low as 19gp, then I got a bargain by buying shards an then exchanging them for an average of 9 gp ea. End of statement. God, you guys cant read. If Im talking about getting shards back for something, Im obviously talking about the POUCHES, which can be sold, alched, or exchanged. And, excuse me for not being so up to date on those exchange rates, all Im doing is quoting them from a thread made after the exchanger came out, it was 19 as I remember. Oh, and did your e-penis grow by posting in 150 size font and then putting "end of statement" like a period isnt really enough? I'm a girl... If I hurt your feelings from wording something, then just say so and I'll edit it. No reason to start flaming.

Familiars don't start to cost 4k in shards until the late-50's... And they're levelled in the 80-90 range then, and usually can pay for themselves... Even then you can exchange them and get 75% of the shards back was it? If not alch them, or sell on GE. Also, for GE price, you can actually get shards for cheaper than just buying them. Do the math or find that thread where you buy pouches on the GE, and trade in for shards. Some can go as low as 19 gp per shard! First off, you can't sell shards on ge. Second, it's 70% not 75%. If buying on the forums goes for as low as 19gp, then I go t a bargain by buying shards an then exchanging them for an average of 9 gp ea. End of statement.

you don't get experience in prayer from actually using the prayer, now do you? You only get slayer exp from being on an assignment. For some reason, when I turn bows into gold I somehow get better at hitting someone with ice blitz. By making hundreds of thousands of oak bows I somehow learn how to make rune arrows. When I cook monkfish I get better at cooking lobsters? Lot's of things besides summoning that don't make sense.

There are a few reasons why there is lag: 1. playing in full screen. more pixels moving=more lag. Hd has more detail so more memory used thus more lag 2. multiple windows/tabs open 3. too many cookies on one's computer 4. too much saved history in the internet log 5. not enough RAM (random access memory for those people asking :thumbsup: ) 6. not a high enough cpu frequency If you still lag after following 1-4, then you MUST either get a better cpu (preferably 1.9GHz or higher) or both a better cpu and about 1-1.5 gig of RAM. I suggest you go to a bargain store with a computer nerd; this will easily cost $150+.

don't they have the same def as giant rock crabs? If they do, then gl

it's still considered kill and loot so it would never be implemented

No one "owns" a spot, but bringing a cannon to a multicombat area is pretty rude since you're now hogging all the exp. Taking spots is low on my annoyances. Taking kbd's, kq's, and gwd bosses annoys the heck out of me.