Barihawk

*Wonders if Assassin is ever going to finish that article*

For all you TL;DR people:

From Bible Think-Tank: http://www.christian-thinktank.com/midian.html

I think a lot of you guys are seriously misunderstanding this. The sheep is 100% sheep. It hasn't been genetically engineered. It just has a lot of human cells transplanted into its own organs. This sheep couldn't exist if we switched around 15% of its chromosomes/genes with those of a human. Why does everyone want to stretch this into a "oh no we're making human-animal hybrids! What's next, a 50/50 walking talking sheep? Let's end all of this right now!" To be honest, the article does call the thing a chimera in the very first sentence. That sets the whole tone.

Same. I also hate the way they're keeping count of the dead. -.- Our Uni's paper is keeping that counter. They say it's "to raise awareness of the war." To many people no matter what ideology, it reminds us of a pinball machine scoreboard. Every death adding to the score of the uber-liberal editorial staff.

No cloned organ has ever been accepted by a human body. Don't hold your breath.

As far as I can see, 15% is just the beginning. I'm sure they'll be striving for something >75% The human body rejects anything under 85%, and even at 95% compatibility the organ may still be rejected. By the time they get to that point, the sheep is not even going to be able to survive without it's own organs. The genetically engineered organs will kill it, and it's short life will be full of PAIN. And by that time, we are just short of a perfect chimera. Who knows, the thing might even develop sentient thoughts. And what are we condemning the thing to? The most painful death anyone can ever imagine.

What would you call killing a sheep 15% human then? A quarter-murder? A: a clone is 100% human. B: I'd actually consider killing it an act of mercy upon the suffering it was brought into. And as I said before, 15% is useless as far as organ transplants go. I hope when the human test subject dies, the scientists are rewarded for their gross arrogance.

For the betterment of mankind, who cares if we have to torture some animals by mutating then mutilating them? Truth be told, I can't wait until we can have our own clones in some institute ready to be harvested in our times of need. If I can live some 70 years more, I'd be fine with killing a clone to do so. We call that murder, and it's no different from killing a hobo for his organs just because you are more powerful than him.

I can tell you that Chimeras generally always live in pain. There's a reason you don't find cross-species offspring living peacefully in nature. That's the prime reason I do not support eugenics.

The US has plans like TIRANNT for every country, even our allies. You will find that all major nations around the world have contingency plans for almost every nation.

Two words: Rat Flail. I'd actually like to see a lute or flute that allows you to boost or lower allies or enemies' stats.

I forgot.. only religious people can have morale I'll just forget you said that. What? The morality transcends only religion. The thing is a Chimera. It's genetic bonds are going to be frickle. It will be in pain it's entire life. That defies multiple laws regarding the treatment of laboratory animals, much less those used in the medical or agricultural field. We are condemning this entire litter, and subsequent test subjects to pain we can't even realize just to "better science?" For one thing, it will be decades before this little "project" has even the remote potential of actually providing viable organ transplants. Hell, at 15% the body would reject the organ before it's even installed properly. So we are pretty much playing God like Dr. Frankenstein. More concerned about our own fame and well-being than the creatures we impose our will upon. That frame of mind will take us to a mistake like Dr. Frankenstein. It's like cloning (I won't even go into the religious problems I have with it). Creating a clone for organ transplant. A fully developed human without the brain? Can we honestly wink and look the other way? And if we do give them brains, will we be treating our clones as a human subspecies? Like cattle? I am just totally against cloning and genetic manipulation at this stage in human evolution. We don't deserve the responsibility, and there is no way we can control these powers.

Not to mention, it's pretty cruel to the sheep. They are going to be [developmentally delayed]ed as hell. And the human body will reject organs that are over 85% compatible.

Antimatter is extremely polarized. Meaning even basic magnets can affect it's behavior. All containment would have to be is a carefully orchestrated system of magnets. Of course, make sure those magnets never fail, or BOOM. The amount of energy generated by M/A-M reactions is huge though. The harnessing of Anti-Matter would lead into a new human Renaissance.

I completely agree. I have always been against Eugenics. Not just for religious reasons (although they are there). But this will lead to a class divide among other things. And yes, humans have a BAD way of taking power too far. Mary Shelley, anyone? Mankind is not ready, or deserving of Eugenics. Maybe one day when we don't have money and everything is equal...oh wait, that's never going to happen.

What else do we do, destroy it with antimatter? it has to go somewhere. And it's not as ad hoc as out of sight, out of mind implies. It is, would and would have to be highly regulated and scrutinised. That's actually not a bad idea. And the subsequent energy creation could be used for power! The hitch is, we don't have the ability to mass-refine anti-matter.

The fact that macroevolution is more subjective does nothing to spoil the massive evidence in favour of mirco-evolution, which still easily accounts for everything we see around us. This might make it more clear anyway Odd, every evolution debate I've gotten into makes grandiose claims of macroevolution. Yes, I believe in adaptation (aka microevolution). It explains quite a bit, yet still does not disprove Creation like macroevolution strived to do.

Another misleading statement. If you take adaptation (aka Microevolution) into account, the number of scientists that do not believe in Macroevolution jumps drastically to almost 50%. And by "scientists" we are of course referring to people who study evolution in general.

Fossil records amongst many other things pretty much prove evolution. I'm really not the man to argue this though, I'll wait for someone else to jump in and build apon it in more detail. All that proves is that some species lived and went extinct! The fossil record can not verify that mankind evolved from freak protein strains. Or that mankind evolved from anything, to be honest.

Assassin, where's this die-hard proven fact called evolution? Last I heard, it's still speculation. It would take a case study thousands of years long to prove evolution. It's just as likely as Creation at this point.

Obama lacks the experience to survive a Presidency in the first place. I am also not fond of the fact he claimed he was not going to run for President in his first term, but did it anyway. Don't count the Republicans out yet. John McCain is a strong contender. Plus, the primaries have not even occurred yet. Nobody can predict anything until after the Primaries.

Ocarina's blast it? Sounds intriguing.

Ugh, I honestly can't say. I'd have to read Isiah...and that's gonna take a while.

Good question. I honestly don't know how to answer. I would say that A is cursed, however. God has repeatedly shown that he does not enjoy "Weekend Warriors."