Barihawk

The only thing I am upset about is the lack of a Varrock update. I really want to see the new Varrock.

Then you are just as guilty as him of luring. Not funny at all. If you suspect someone of luring, just report them and leave.

So basically: He will end the war, open the borders, legalize pot, cut taxes (and kill the Laffer balance), cripple the US monetarily... ...and finally give every criminal on the street free access to handguns. Uh huh.

And? I didn't say God magically moved the tornado to spare me because I prayed. To be honest, I was so chilled out about the storm that I didn't even pray. My point was that my mother had the instinct to call me to see if I was allright. She didn't even know it was raining here.

1st: I made an error. We need to take this to the appropriate thread. 2nd: I applaud you. You're trying to walk me into a box. You are not only taking Biblical quotes out of context, you are taking my quotes out of context. I'm almost tempted to stop taking you seriously. This is the third time this conversation I've noticed this ploy.

Homosexuality: God created Man and Woman. And let's look at it from an anatomy angle. The plumbing doesn't fit. Abortion: All are created through God through conception. That means the Zygote is a living creature in God's eyes from the moment of gestation. List some more. PS: You are starting to generalize again. So, lets lay this down the line. Homosexuality is wrong because it doesn't follow a biological way. Thats what you define right and wrong by? This must be it since you already told me that the Bible is outdated and we can't take what it says to be literal. ...When did I say that? The Bible is full of literal truth and figurative lessons. If you actually read the Bible, study it, and take into context, you can actually learn when to take the Bible literally, and when to take it figuratively.

First off: Any Christian who dares call a Jew a "Christ-Killer" needs to get the Hell out of our faith. Christ was a Jew, all the disciples were Jews, the Early Church were Jews, and by all rites of birth I can be considered Jewish. All Christians are Messianic Jews. If someone blames the Jews for killing Christ AFTER IT'S FREAKING PROPHECIZED BY 4 MAJOR PROPHETS, then they are ignorant morons. Second: Original sin still exists. The method of appeasing it has changed. By believing that Christ died on the Cross as our scapegoat, original sin is not an issue. You say Christ went against the earlier teachings. That was God's way of saying "I gave you those laws for a reason, but you have taken them too far." Christ was the Ammendum to the laws layed out in Deuteronomy. And in closing, any idiot who says Jews are Christ-Killers knows jack-crap about Christianity, and is nothing but a bigot.

I play there sometimes. I speak a bit of German (although I am a bit rusty). I read the German, and only speak English when I don't understand or can't translate. The German players are friendly and correct my mistakes. I love it there. The "Engish Only" garbage is tiresome, though.

Get up, go to class, do homework, spend time with friends, go to sleep.

Yes, that's exactly the point I was getting at. People did that. People provide aid, people give to charities and people cause the problem. Where's god's grace in all of this? Can you answer the question in my previous post? God only interfered with mankind's evolution with the Covenant of Abraham. Since then, he has worked "Behind the Scenes" with the exception of Christ. Our punishment for the Original Sin was to be on our own. If God made everybody's life honky-dory, it would be the same as Him walking amongst us like the Garden. Everyone would just rely on God for everything. Instead, all those who follow God (no matter if you are Jewish, Islamic, Christian, whatever) must do the charity.

Over one half of all charities and aid given in Africa are by churches. How's that? At least we spend the money here, and take food and supplies there. Unlike the UN and it's "dump all the money on the governments of these nations" strategy. PS: I've been on a mission to Honduras. Not once did we preach to those people, yet the villages we visited were strongly interested in hearing the Gospels upon our return. We saved the lives of 500 children needing medical care, provided health checkups, dental care, and other aide. In person.

I've seen several "mysterious ways" in which God works with. For one, my father has been looking for a new job for years. He stopped looking when my grandmother was ill. In his prayers, he told God that he would stop looking in order to take care of my grandmother to the very end. When we came home from her funeral, a job offer for Vice President was waiting in his inbox. Today, we had a freak tornado system at my Uni. My mother lives 400 miles away, and had an instinct to call me to see if I was all right. Just because God doesn't pop out and go "LOL, ITS ME!" every hundred years doesn't mean he isn't working.

Well, let's look at it from a Christian perspective. The Jews had laws governing the forgiveness of sins. They usually involved a sacrifice (most commonly a goat, which became known as the scapegoat). By dying on the cross, Christ became the sacrificial lamb, or the scapegoat. By believing that he died on the Cross in that function, is the essentiality of the Christian faith. And remember that God acknowledges the laws of nations. Just because you say "I'm sorry!" to God does not make you immune from punishment. Hence, the dangerous message is stifled.

You already lose. The only reference to who is going to hell in Revelation are the AntiChrist, his false profit, and those who took his mark. All others will be judged. Oh, and even Revelation does not say that if you sin you will go the Hell. With the exception of taking the Mark, all sins are forgivable (as long as you ask). I refuse to believe that say, a rapist, will be rewarded just the same as the best person to ever grace the face of the Earth, so long as they both ask. Does that not sound kinda' dumb to you? Oh shoot, sorry. Was distracted by a movie. "Earnestly ask" for repentance. That's better? Not a "sorry for raping her today, I'll try not to do it tomorrow" type thing.

You already lose. The only reference to who is going to hell in Revelation are the AntiChrist, his false profit, and those who took his mark. All others will be judged. Oh, and even Revelation does not say that if you sin you will go the Hell. With the exception of taking the Mark, all sins are forgivable (as long as you ask).

Atheism is considered religion while agnosticism is the absence thereof. This topic is actually just for all future religious debate.

Better in a topic about religious arguments than somewhere else.

Hush Tigra, he got you GOOD with that one :P. Hoisted by thine own petard. :lol:

No. I am Methodist, with Baptist fundamentalism.

really? let me think, theres like 100000 laws in the united states that all just enforce 10 things. know what they are? the ten commandments. id say that if everyone followed them the world would be BETTER not worse? "Keep no other Gods before me" and "Remember the Sabbath and Keep it Holy" are not exactly found anywhere in US laws. Nor should they. I'll give you the other 8.

Zamorak is the Big High War God, Zaros is the God of Dark Fire. Zaros had the armies at the beginning of the God Wars, until Zamorak managed to take over.

Good attitude, Tigra. I believe the same for those who try to disprove anti-religious statements as well.

I could say the same thing about "The Case for Christ." It was written by a man who ran an anti-religious column for 25 years.

Excellent idea, Viktor. One of my friends from Secondary is doing the exact same thing, and he has a better outlook on religion in general than I do!

Kefka and the three Gods of War from Final Fantasy 6. Epic. Seeing Kefka laugh arrogantly even as his powers faded and the Gateway closed...then start crying and then laughing maniacally. Best Boss Battle Ever.