KingWenlok

Good job with those pictures Randox! Actually, I had a look in high detail, and the telescope appears to be just missing the wall of the bank. However, it does appear that the telescope points at the bank- El Paso, anyone? So, is the WOM Mortimer or Indio? :P Oh, and another thing- in Once Upon a Time in the West there is a character who is sort of like a villain called Morton. Now, in Morytania there is a town called Mort'ton. Another odd thing is that he suffers from tuberculosis I believe. That would indicate that Opus Saradomin could be very active. This could explain why the wizards seem to have no true god- they could be turning to Zamorak but Opus Saradomin might be putting the odd Saradominist object here and there to try and keep all the wizards sticking with Saradomin. Another bit of fuel to the fire to ignite the second God War.

But if he's trying to become a god, he'll obviously get Saradomin and Zamorak to fight each other. In my opinion, they could play a crucial part in this story.

KCHughes, do you find it odd that Mortimer and the Wise Old Man both have gold/gold coloured telescopes pointing out of windows directly into the heart of the town/village...? :P Anyway, yes, having a meeting when the history page is updated would be a brilliant idea. I think, however, if they bring a massive update on all parts of the history first, we should concentrate on the lesser individuals. I am, of course, referring to your pyramid- perhaps Arrav or one of the main Mahjarrat would be a good thing to start off with? I don't think we should touch the gods until later on, as they would be higher up in the pyramid.

Ever heard of a pile jumper my friend? Anyway, probably A. Even if I do try to help I'd die very fast, so it would be pointless really.

omg it is a male or female? The Editor is a IT! The Editor is then clearly the Beast. If you look closely, the curl of the body is very much like that of a 6. :P

Well imps are demonic creatures, so I think that would make him evil. Of course, if he can summon imps, that might mean he could easily learn to summon a Lesser Demon, and then possibly move on to Greater Demons and Black Demons. Anyway, I'm almost sure we'll see an NPC called Sentenza. I mean, it's not really a name you recognize right away (well, KC would, but I doubt the rest of us will :P ) and it's a good name for a character. What would be even more disturbing though would be to find a guy called Sentenza in the WOM's house. Good necromancy doesn't involve the dead being fully brought back to life. They simply awaken the mind of the deceased and speak with it from there using pyschic ability. Then when they have all their information gathered, they let them rest. Also, if you had a son, and he was brutally murdered, you would try to find the killer would you not? And if there was a necromancer nearby, surely you would use him?

Then he might be an evil necromancer, like Maliginus Mortifier. Perhaps he is trying to raise an army of dead minions for Zamorak? The undead can be pretty powerful- Ankou's, for example. Then there are vampires of course, who can pack a hard punch. It is interesting that he is stationed near Ardougne, as Larry the Zookeeper is the keeper of Ardougne Zoo, and he has met the Wise Old Man. Could Larry be more important than we thought? I'm more interested in the actual gods themselves (When the gods walked the earth), as Trobigod points out neither Zaros or Armadyl were in the actual God Wars. So, if they update the Second Age section, the first thing I'm sure they'll mention is the conflict between the Mahjarrat leading up to the defeat of Zaros and the start of the God Wars. I also have the feeling that there will be a new quest that involves bounty killing (hunting down NPCs of course). Also KC, do you think the WOM looks sort of like the prophet in For a Few Dollars More? He also looks a bit like the undertaker in A Fistful of Dollars. It's quite odd either way, and if those names are revealed (add Angel Eyes and Mortimer to that list as well) then something very strange is indeed going on. Out of interest, do any Jagex Moderators like Spaghetti Westerns (specifically Sergio Leone types)?

My own music. RuneScape music is amazingly poor. I usually just listen to Classical music whilst playing, as it is perfect for every mood.

Let me clear this up- necromancy is a magic used to communicate with or revive the dead (as Randox points out). Most necromancers use the ability in order to speak with the dead, normally so justice can be done for a murder etc. Most necromancers therefore use it in the desire to do good- however, there are many misconceptions, and it has become the stereotype that necromancy is only performed by dark wizards. This is untrue, as dark wizards would only use necromancy to revive the dead for battle. Sadly, the theory that necromancy is only performed by evil-doers stuck, and they are shunned from the community. Most are in exile from their own lands. They also said they would be adding additional history. It seems likely that they would give more tales of Zaros and the Mahjarrat, so we should watch out for them too. Maybe Jagex are trying to help us? By the way KC, I wouldn't be scared of that little Guy reference. You should only really be scared when you hear pocke[bleep]ch chimes. :mrgreen:

Oi Faelenof, you left me out of the first two pictures. I curse ye... :P Beware citizens of Tip.It- the armies of cabbage are growing. Rumours spread of a legend called Brassica Prime. Whispers tell of mighty cabbage invasions on Karamja dock! This shall never end, mwwahahahah!

Oh I'm killing myself! This is hilairious, especially seeing KC use 'teh.' Hm, I don't think the filter is that smart though (test: 'the'). Anyway, just noticed Trobigod's post, so I'll add more of value later.

Those candlesticks look slightly familiar. A bit like the other ones we have found all over Gielinor. Anyway, I'm not sure what this means, but the shields in Lumbridge have an identical pattern to one found in Melzar's Maze. Also, the banners have the symbol of a sun on them. Off topic: I feel sorry for you KC. :P EDIT: Actually, that's scary. Guy Callaway was shot by Mortimer in For a Few Dollars More, but the person who acted Guy appeared in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Guess what? He was hanged! I'm not sure what for, so I'm going to listen carefully at that particular scene. :mrgreen:

Dose this mean you arent attending any more meetings onless we change the time? I think that's what it means, at least until the TV show ends, if it ends at all. Yes, Trobigod is right. I'll still be posting on this thread of course, just won't be attending any meetings for quite a while.

By the way guys, about the meeting- I can't go. Sorry, but there's something that I enjoy enormously on TV at 7:00pm GMT I'm afraid. Oh well. :P

It actually sounds more to me like Sauron from the Lord of the Rings. Or possibly Morgoth, who was the first Dark Lord as such. They could be using both stories, as RuneScape does take shape and size from several fantasies. I think we will also hear Zamorak being called the Chaotic Lord, amongst other things. Mournings End part 2 could possibly be a WOM quest, though I doubt that as it seems more concerned with Zamorak.

Nah, everyone has got it wrong. April Fools involves me being made a Jagex Mod and causing massive havoc around RuneScape. It also involves the release of TzTok-Jad on World 1, Varrock West Bank. :mrgreen: Anyway, I doubt anything will happen. Possibly a dragon pickaxe, but to our shock and horror we discover it is a rubber version.

:lol: Well, I think if you recall I made an account called 'The Woms Spy.' However, as for 'Woms Spy-' someone is probably copying me to mess around. :mrgreen: I really don't know what to make of it. However, it could be a warning to everyone here. We have probably gotten very close to solving the mystery of the WOM, and our accounts are probably in great danger. We shall press on even harder, then. Nice chart. And I'll check out the curator later. Interesting chap. All of him. I wonder what reaction this thread will get when the account 'Wise Old Man' finally logs on. I'll add him. :P Anyway, I had a quick look around Melzar's Maze. I may have something interesting to report. EDIT: Apart from a shield that has marking similar to that of the Famine rock, nothing. Oh, and Trobi wanted me to post this- the Ardougne Church has those sword picture windows.

Well, doesn't the saying go 'Like father like son?' Well, let's look at Saradomin- big white beard, bald head, old appearance. And now let's look at the WOM- big white beard, bald head, old appearance. The only difference is the fact that the WOM wears glasses, a blue party hat, and tanned robes. Still, the resemblance is rather extraordinary. But the only way this could possibly work is if Saradomin didn't know the WOM was his son. Perhaps he might be trying to become a god for good reasons rather than out of his own greed? Maybe he wants to keep the line of good Mahjarrat alive? EDIT: Cross-posted with Randox, I see that he means just something to put in the little clan thingamagig in the user profile. :lol: And the thousandth was posted by the newest member. Welcome to WOMDA by the way skeeran1!

Well, I finally managed to break into the Dark Knight's Fortress, and I have two images for you. Both come from the top floor. Sorry for the bad quality, my computer isn't all that great. I had to be quick with the photography, as there were three player killers downstairs fighting amongst themselves. Here we have a suit of armour. Look closely and you will see a distinctive pattern of red lines on the shield. The same suits of armour are found in Lumbridge castle. Curious. Look very closely, and you can see a symbol of Saradomin, this time in red on a black background! Why would Dark Warriors have a Saradomin symbol in their fortress, a fortress dedicated to chaos? That looks very similar to this eye rock. Didn't we say that it was Death? Oh, and Randox- that priest is wearing dark wizard robes. Now, why on Earth would a Saradominist priest be wearing the robes of evil wizards, who practice the magic of Zamorak? Should he not be wearing black priest robes?

Looking interesting so far. Well, as for what I sound like in the game- rather like a two year old, but when I'm speaking to Sir Dark of Luniux, I may speak in Old English, with random, insane things thrown in. Or I may just speak in Old English to annoy everyone. :mrgreen: Oh, and you spelt 'Wenlok' wrong. :P If it's important in any way, my name is pronounced 'When-low.' And I might have a little idea for your story- since me and a fellow (at least, I think he's a he, though I'm not sure since he keeps going to the Makeover Mage) called Trobigod both like Zaros, we have decided to team up and destroy WOMDA. Perhaps we could be villains at the end, for a little twist? :twisted:

Well, I did have a pretty far out thoery that the WOM was Armadyl. if he was, that would explain how he could have been around at that time. Perhaps Armadyl was planning the whole time what to do if he lost his power as a god? I somehow have the feeling that Zaros thought that Armadyl was becoming too big-headed about his god status, so that could be why Armadyl's staff was stolen to make him lose power. Armadyl could have foresaw this, and attempted to set up a plan to make sure that even if he is defeated, he'll find another way to be a god again. Oh, and the god of death is Icthlarin. He seems to be almost the exact same as Anubis the jackal-headed god, who was in control of Egyptian mummification (basically we was in control of death). I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the WOM, but then again, there is a very Eye of Horus like symbol on the Wizard's Tower, and Horus was an Egyptian god. They might not even think Guthix is a god. Since Guthix has no real physical form, he could have pretended to be a very powerful goblin. They surely would have bowed down to one of their kind with that much strength! So, they may think Guthix is their 'king' or lord as such. I'm sure they wouldn't mind running errands for him. They would be good spies too- from the looks of them, they seem quite small and aware. They're probably quite agile too- I mean, they have the (apparently hardest) agility course. And don't they live underground? They probably know some tunneling techniques. Heck, I'm sure there a few sitting underneath the WOM's house right now. :mrgreen:

Ah, but are we talking in terms of the game or the actual world of Gielinor? Because if we are talking about the world RuneScape is set in, then it's easy to get around the fact that it was there before the update. Let's think of it in terms of 'discovery'- the Dorgeshuun City had been there long before Jagex 'found' them. So, it is highly plausible that one was sent to spy on the WOM, whilst the others in the city remained hidden to human eyes. If it is a Dorgeshuun, it could imply that they could be helpful in defeating the Wise Old Man. Randox said that they have lived underground since the God Wars- well, they could easily return to the surface to help battle opposition. Due to their non-violent nature, I come to the conclusion that they are either Saradominists or Guthixians (whatever). I think they may be Guthixians, due to the fact that they are not too keen on humans (nearly every Saradominist is human, if not all). Now, it seems inevitable that Guthix is going to try and stop the God war, so it will without a doubt employ all its followers to help in whatever way they can- gnomes would of course be its army. However, these Dorgeshuun... I'm not sure how they would be useful. Well, they do have an agility course- very spy-ish to me. The Dorgeshuun could be the elite spies of Guthix. It could be very interested in the Wise Old Man, and have sent a Dorgeshuun to spy on him. However, I'm not sure why the WOM would want to drill into the city- I'm pretty sure it's for an attack against the Tower, and as I've said, the spy is there to keep an eye on him. Curious that there is also a gnome mage hanging around the Wizard Tower, isn't it? I'm not one of the 'main plot thinkers.' I've barely even arrived, whereas KCHughes has been here for ages. If I had to choose, probably 1alebcay.

Delrith wasn't amazingly powerful though. He had less hitpoints than a Level 3, and had an aversion to the magical sword Silverlight. It just goes to show that summoning is a subject barely touched upon. Brilliant. The Wizard's Tower is an island surrounded by water, so going underneath the Tower to get in would be sheer genius. Let us not forget that blimp on the WOM's desk though- penguins may yet have a significant part to play in this tale. If the WOM enlisted the help of penguins, an assault on the Tower would be all the more easier. Simply send a bunch of penguin filled blimps up to the top and it'll confuse the wizard's. Whilst they're busy rounding them up, WOM drills from underneath and meets them on the stairway. Massacre! Then he can quietly escape via the tunnel and make it look like the work of Zamorakians without even being spotted! And it doesn't exactly matter to the people that the wizard's may not be for either god- the locals think that the wizard's are strong Saradominists, so an attack on Zamorakians is definite. I'd still like to know the true allegiance of the wizard's though. It may be useful to the investigation. Off topic- :lol: at your signature 1alebcay.

It would make sense if Zaros wasn't a Mahjarrat, due to his apparent unbelievable power. The Mahjarrat were powerful, but I doubt they had as much influence as Zaros himself did. Also, Zamorak had a deep fear of Zaros- I doubt he would have feared him if Zaros were a Mahjarrat. He would have been more like a brother to Zamorak than a ruler if that was the case. However, I'm now beginning to wonder if Zaros had any physical form at all. Zamorak fears little, due to him being the god of chaos. Now, what if Zaros had the ability to shape-shift? If he changed into the thing that Zamorak feared the most, Zamorak would end up being permanently damaged- fear is one of the most powerful tools that exist on Earth today. Well, I think we can easily work out what young Zamorak fears- he's the god of pretty much everything evil, but look, he's left one thing out. Death still remains in Icthlarin's title. So, Zaros could have changed into some form of Zamorak's death to strike fear into his enemy. However, apparently Zaros lost due to being stabbed by the Staff of Armadyl. But suppose all his power wasn't drained. After being defeated by Zamorak, could Zaros have changed into another shape, and fled? And could he have gotten stuck in that shape, due to most of his power being zapped? Maybe he isn't Bob at all, and Bob really is Robert the Strong. Could Bob be one of his agents, sent to throw us all off guard? I still think he's a cat, but which cat? The only ones I know off at the minute are Bob and Maemi, but I sure there's more out there. Hmm... you don't suppose they could have thought that both gods were good to worship due to the magical properties of gods (god spells), so they worshipped both? Or could they be having a private religious war amongst themselves, with the Saradominists being forced to worshipping in the basement whilst Zamorak grows ever popular with the wizardry? WOM could possibly have set this rift between them, in order to further stir up a hatred coming from both sides towards eachother. I somehow doubt loyal followers of Zamorak woulds have left Saradomin symbols up, but anyway, that seems to make sense. Or the monks could be Saradominist spies working together with the Oracle. It's a bit strange all the same. You're right. Grr, curse my stupid eyes. It is interesting though. In Christianity, isn't the soul not the part of you that goes up to heaven after Judgement Day? This would tie in well with the apocalypse, if the swirly symbol was one of its layers. Saradomin is much like Armadyl- purity etc. Since the Ancient Staff is supposed to contain the magic of Zaros, then Saradomin would consider it impure. Also, Zamorak has a strange phobia of anything to do with Zaros, so the staff would be chucked away as quickly as possible.

(Image taken from Zybez- picture of an old gold dragon) They look slightly similar, don't they? And I just remembered- it was said at one time that the symbol for the swirly rock was found in Aggie the Witch's house. There's another of those symbols here, and a witch is close by. We identified the swirly symbol as standing for Pestilence. This would tie in with the witches being related somewhat to disease.