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As are most people (not all) with money. I agree, I never ever go there to colllect Seaweed. Waiting for the respawn is like waiting for a snail to cross a salted sidewalk. Nah, I won't be going there at all, as i just leveled in fishing as well (besides, I hate fishing!) How to solve the seaweed problem...don't know. I hope Jagex hurries to correct the battlestaff problem. Until then I will just stay on lunar spell and buy as I go. 5 staves a day until I get 100 to high alch.

You can buy from other players. Outside of that, strictly collecting. According to Paul, he wants you to use the Fishing colony. But there are, or may be better areas in game. Good luck! Oh, and fighting dags drop noted Seaweed, from what I understand.

Me personality is more or less the same. There are different aspects to it, but nonetheless the same.

If it did, I would be very content with it. Seriously, spending minutes looking for one item bites Yak buns!!! Hill Giants could run to varrock from arddy and back in the time it takes me to find one specific, rarely used item. We shall see.

I must be getting closer to obtain the "biggest RS loser" award or something.... I don't buy raw material, I chop my own trees (WC xp), I craft my own bs (crafting XP), I make my own longs (Fletching xp), I mine my own ess (mining xp), and I craft my own nats (RC xp), then, I high alch the buggers (mage xp). Total amount spent: time to gather materials Total amount gained: 779 per high alch. Um, what's so wrong about that?

Not being a profit.... I believe I have had this argument with someone before. I still do not see how it would not be a profit if you gather everything yourself??? Are we assuming that ALL players purchase materials to high alch?? If that is the case, then yes, you may be correct in saying that there is no profit. But if I gather my own logs, gather my own flax, craft my own nats with my mined ess.....I would be making more money, just losing time. I have spent 0gp and made 779 (I think that is the alch price). I will agree, if you buy ALL materials need to high alch for the sake of gaining mage XP, then you are wasting money!

You would not need to know our actually names, but our screen names if anything. I did a paper on this for College. Yes there is a such thing as a virtual community and there are reasons why people consider themselves part of said community. If you are really doing said report then you may want to check out other site (Livejournal, Xanga, and so one). Look for evidence on how teh players create, establish and maintain this community that you are looking for. It seems you are looking for proof of how it is, and for that you really don't need to "talk" to any of us, more or less just look for evidence. That said, if you are truly in game, you can attempt to pm me, but I keep my private chat to friends, as I don't like to be bother by unknown players who attempt to either ask for free stuff or ask me to be their "GF." good luck

Not a profit?? :shock: Only an economist would point out the details of how it is a loss. I mean, if I make my own raw materials, to me I am still making a profit. REgardless of how much each item costs. Sure, Nats sell at 310, yew logs at 300 (or whatever). But I gather those material myself and make my own longs, mine my own ess (can we same time consuming?). Yes, it takes time, but in the end I have spent 0gp and made 770 (what ever the alching price is) per yew long. To me that is a major profit! The only thing wasted is time. 8-) Best way to train mage: Live mage. (96 mage here, and done without massive high alching). When I say live, I mean live. Everything you do in game must be mage based. Teleport everywhere, make bracelets, enchant them (and use them), farm with lunar spell book, CW with Ancients, make battlestaves, visit the MTA (Mage Training Area), work on getting bones to peaches spell, use that while training (mage of course). oh...and use telegrab! Not a waste of Laws, if you can craft them! O:) Hats off to those who can do what I can not....sit hours on end high alching. =D> I can't stand that. AFter 100 alchs, I am bored. I prefer my method. Scope the signature...

Not sure but....if you buy at shop price and sell, would you actually lose money? Whether it's tokkul or GP, if you sell the item you purchase, wouldn't it sell back at like 1/2 price??

I have no idea what you did to lose money, but when I crafted them I made a profit of 2-2.3k! I collected my own seaweed (so I didn't need to buy that), I retrieved sand from Bert (Hand in the Sand quest). Then using the glassmaking for lunar spellbook, I crafted my own orbs. from there it was just buying the battlestaves and attaching the orbs after I charged them. I mine my own ess, crafted my own Cosmics and Voila! 2k-2.3k profit! No, I am (and from my experience of buying staves last night) and I know there are others upset with this update. I am not going to use my Pizzazz points for battlestaves because I am trying to save up for infinity gear. It is bad enough I don't have the luxury of endless amount of time, but when I do play I like to focus on one thing to do. Battlestaving for me was a big money maker because of how I do it. I was happy when there were three places to purchase and now there is only 1. Increase the stock to 20, I really don't think that is going to help at all. People will still worldhop just to purchase what they can when they can. That shall change nothing, imo. But that is how I feel about it.

just a few words... YAY, UNLIMITED BLOOD RUNES!!! Until I can craft them, it makes getting them that much easier.

-Will this truly solve the store-bot problem or will it just adapt and find another way to abuse the game? No, it will not solve the bot problem. Nothing will, people in China, or whereever, need to eat! Furthermore, there will always be cheaters no matter where you go. Some people live off of looking for the quickest road to riches. Will they go start buying out all the feathers in the Fishing Store, or will that be infinite as well? Feathers are infinite....so yea. Too bad for feather gatherers. Now...my turn.... I love the update from the "runes" aspect. Unlimited amount of runes makes me happy. However....Jagex needs to do something about that battlestaff problem. Sure...F2P has nothing to worry about as this is a member problem. Battlestaves are now EXTREMELY hard to obtain. So, crafters take a blow as this was one easy way to craft without fighting dragons. I am curious to see how Jagex "fixes" this, if they even intend to.

Well, yeah, if you are a buyer of runes and essence....it will hurt you. But all in all, I think it is not that bad. Only merchanters have to "rethink" how to sell their wares, since they are the ones selling. Outside of that, if you are not a merchanter (like me) it bothers you not.

Finally someone who feels the same as I!! I was excited about the shop update... finally a chance to get runes whenI want and how many I want (based on how much money I have). My mates would say, "let's go CW" Then I would have to spend x amount of time getting bloods to play because I didn't have enough for the casts. Problem solved. My RANT---> Battle staves. Runes don't come cheap. Which is why making battle staves were a life saver. I would buy the staves for a big profit then I was able to buy my bloods. NOW...as stated...I can't do that because it will take longer, much longer, to every gather the battle staves (unless I world hop, but even then I am doing what....competing with other players). Use pizzazz opints?? Are you nuts?!?!? I am saving up to get infinity gear and you want me to use them for battle staves! I hope Jagex realizes that they have really hurt the "true" players and come up with something for getting battle staves. In the RS forums, there is a suggestion for a battle stave update, involving players making their own. If you can find it, check out some of the ideas.

Speaking as an adult....he's right. And that is why i try to look for the more maturer crowd of players to enjoy the game with. Good luck to all of you seeking the same. feel free to add me, or contact me via tip.it or other rs sites if you see (PS: google works wonders...try it, you might find me).