deyan2

I was actually thinking about ignoring the whole time you lose on the magic skill... This because you can also alch your logs from wc without losing time eventually and/or fishes from fishing so there are more ways to make that 200M without losing any time at all (just like fletching for example).

Anyone? :roll:

If you have all the money in the world and plan to 200M everything, would it be faster to do 200M smiting and mining apart or is superheating still the best?

Erw j didn't train much after the Jagex dung ban did he (if not not at all)? Maybe he's a bit upset atm :( ;). Max P2p longterm mining xp/h is about 80k. http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9113/mineresults.png With mining magic smiting I guess 180K... I know that suomi usually got up to 1M xp in 6 hours when he did it (165K/h). I don't know how much attention he gave to his way of playing at the time.

Hmmm Suomi actually surprises me a bit, I expected him to superheat some bars (not gold, but runite or adamant) till 200M smiting xp and gain some cash with it and after that enchant a pile of amulets (str, power, glory, onyx) to 200M magic and another pile of cash. But he doesn't :P, I wonder how long time Slayer will take him +- ;) and I hope he is able to afford it to use a cannon.

i only joined to say that fool Now who's the fool here mr 2 posts :S? Ontopic: What skill is the best to train first is a bit unknown. There happen changes all the time, so skills that where like ungetteble 5 years ago are quite easy nowadays. Getting items without GE took ages of typing, forumming and stuff, nowadays you just ask 5K gems and you have them in a couple of hours while training all kind of other skills. Training crafting with gemcutting was close near impossible before GE, nowadays it's like pretty much normal. Without GE Zarfot and Jdela would probably have remained pretty much unknown, or in every case have loads loads loads less xp. If you knew everything beforehand peoples would probably have trained hard skills like rc, wc, 100M fm, agility, fishing, hunter (before loads bots), thieving and a bit of smiting before GE (and buy a pile of rares) and as soon as GE and the money was there all the fast skills of now and slayer (not slayer before otherwise no summoning xp *and effigys). I guess something like that, and neither would they have maxed everything to 200M, they get like 5M free xp because of Dungeon anyway *and effi. It does surprise me btw that the top players don't train skills like hunter a lot whenever there comes some time there are no bots. The hunter bots lower the xp/h quite a lot don't they? So whenever they are gone the xp/h is a lot higher, so whenever there are no or barely any bots just take your chance shouldn't you? But ok who am I ;) and no I'm not a member so I'm not a 100% sure about this.

Even not with the couple of xp you receive during the game added? Oké thanks then I won't play that game :P. Atm I'm getting more cash a day then I waste (A) :P.

Paperbag started his herb. lol @ mr joined 26 minits ago XD... Aasi, just let him go, he has allways been the strangest top player, don't let him influence you that much, some peoples just got their own way of thinking.

4got2pullout is a fake, he didn't lose 20K thieving ranks or something in no time for no reason XD.

Hello, I got a question, I want as much xp/h as possible in this skill but don't know what's the best way to do this. I got a hell of a lot of money so don't worry about that ;). Atm I'm making air tiara's, teleport to varrock, bank and do it all over again, I do rest near the musician. This way I'm achieving about 15K rc xp/h. But I was wondering, is there any minigame that's worth the time to get more xp in totall (with teletabs or whatever they are called). So... This way: Time you use playing minigame + time you use to train the skill = most xp/h in totall for RuneCrafting? Atm I know ways how to get 15K/h in rc forever without interrupts/preperation time. For myself I had the feeling that playing fog wasn't worth it, but I don't know it about the other minigame. Of all guides I've ever seen this is the best so I guess you're the most reliable person to answer this question as far as I know. Thanks for your answers beforehand, bye deyan2 :P

Arian Slayer and L cap L should be in ;) :P! Lol, both of them have never been checked before on runetracker.org XD :P

Langer is right, even S u o m i isn't in there...

If suomi only cares about 200M everything then he doesn't play it in a smart way. If you want to play it in a perfect way (or close near) you wouldn't max any of your skills before you got at least 150M xp in all or allmost all other skills too. He will gain experience in the skills he allready maxed, so he allready wasted time, so no he isn't perfect. I do think it won't be any diffrend with mining this time. Somehow if he cares about beïng on page one stuff in as much as possible skills he does play it in a smart way! Whatever his goals are, I wish him good luck :) :P!

Well prove him wrong ? :S As far as I know he got all of them. Somehow there are a lot of peoples with 950M+ xp who will probably get in soon. The rank 1 atm in totalxp didn't even have 1B xp in the beginning of januari 2009 XD! So that fast is how it goes nowadays.

Kemadorr... Stopped? You can just as good put Timlahaye in there :S? *edit: Change that 6-7 months into 3-4 months, Bal just finished his construction so will slow down in xp/... again. Just look at the latest week, Zar can continue to do that week for a big 2 years while still having 150M fm xp left, Bal can't do much as long as he doesn't have or offers the money needed for fast xp/...

If you only look at totall xp atm then rather check Tezz... Yes even lower with 1,41B but gained 128M xp this month (40M summoning... Admitted but still) and just started with cooking with 150M xp left, all 3 your notable players allready maxed this ;). *edit: If you look at the race for the eventual 200M everything winner keep an eye on Serpenttine, he/she only got 650M xp yet, but is racing like an idiot for quite some time allready. This person has only 12.8M totall xp on 24 april 2008, maxed all his stats including dungeoneering to 120 a few days ago so I guess he/she basically did that from lumbridge new account to maxed in about 2.6 year time... ;) I think he/she could become a Zarfot the 2nd, she gained about 68M xp this month while +- only training dungeon.

Quite some time ago Jagex invited the top 5 P2p and F2p and rank 1 Funorb to their compagnie. Will Jagex (ever) do anything like that again? *edit: And if yes; would Jagex tell the crowd beforehand so we could really see a small battle in the top to become one of the 5 :P :D! Are there coming similar partys in other continents?

I think Zezima did a bigger thing then most peoples seem to think nowadays. If he wanted a set of full rune (close near the best armour you could get back then) you couldn't just go and buy, nobody had smiting 99 and barely anyone could kill the monsters that dropped such armour. A rune 2H costed allmost 2M gp's back then and thrust me, 100K gp's back then was worth a lot more then it is nowadays... ALso, back then you had to do everything with just player to player trading, GE changed a really really lot. At the moment you can trade while woodcutting/mining/fishing/whatever, back then you had to trade to get your items and that way getting 0 xp/h for hours typing like a idiot what items you wanted to have. Even when novalife of however you write his name was rank one (Zezi let him go because he knew he would stop soon after) everybody knew that zezima was meanwhile busy buying herb stuff. The buying task was a hard task back then, but nowadays it's a handfull of clicks and a few hours sleeping and voila. And thrust me, if you were rank 1 on RS everybody knows you and everybody wants to trade with you and everybody wants a minit of your attention and fake that they have the item you needed just for a simple screenshot. Nowaday top players can be pretty easely stay pretty unknown. If you ask the avarage cb 50 player who suomi, dapledo or drumgun is he probably doesn't have a clue, if you asked anyone at all 8 years ago who zezima was they called you a noob for even asking. Zezima is till the day of today still the person who has been rank 1 for most days in rs-history (and I've heard rumours also Funorb, but not sure and I'm to lazy to check (A)). Without GE loads less peoples should probably have ever heard of Zarfot or Jdelacroix, maybe some top players would even confirm this. I would have loved to see a highscore with things like: "name" has been rank 1 for X days/his highest rank ever was ... in that case you could clearly see Zezi is still rank 1 at some thing ;).

I wonder what s u o m i will do after 200M mining while he still got some magic/smiting xp left... ;)

bots for thatexist already: -they use complexity 1 so no puzzles are present -they solo the dungeons (on med) so no interaction with others is present. However it should be said at the moment they aren't quite efficient and not suitable for the professional market. (They earn around 2-5k xp an hour). You're serious?! Lol, 4K an hour is +- what I achieve in F2p on dung lvl 35, so it isn't even that really bad... Well I must admit then they are better in scripting as I expected. How do the bots handle the endbosses? Even I have trouble with some while I'm a normal player with cb 102 (def 70) and I see peoples around me with cb 120+ who die even more as I do doïng the same boss... *floor 17/35, not 35/lvl 70 ;)

Offcourse it does, if you keep your mouse above a skill you also see how many xp you got and if you keep it above a monster you also see what lvl it is and stuff in the corner left above.

They are back again aren't they? :(

Ow yes you can, but it isn't the case atm ( I guess, I'm not sure because I don't bot). But those things are the things Jagex could trace bots with more easy can't they? Me myself don't use mousekeys for dropping, but also with mousekeys you don't drop exactly the same, some times you start on the left side of the ore, other times on the right side don't you?

It wouldn't work anyway, when I was a noob I died once and it took me a couple of hours before I find my way back to the bank of falador where I allways banked my ores XD :)...

Making a script for dung sounds pretty hard to me, especially because if you are getting higher lvls in it you will get diffrend monsters (monsters you don't know anything about atm and haven't ever seen before) and you have to kill them all in all kind of diffrend ways. And then we still forget about the part that it's hard to couple keys on doors for a bot, the simple thing "remembering" where the door is from the key you got atm is hard for a bot ;). Also things will get diffrend with more players (some minigames and stuff), recognice what armour is the best from the monsters you just killed, recognice what monsters you should use prayers for and for what monsters you can handle without... It's just way way way to complicated. Also you get only one attempt every time you know. If you succeed or failed doïng a small minigame then it's over, you can't really test it time on time again because you allready finished it. If you fail your team get angry at you, if you succeed you have only had one test attempt. If you succeed or failed doing things like cut a yew tree or mine a ore then you wait 10 seconds and try it again ;). Well maybe in the beginning when you start dung you can click things like: I don't want that and I do want that, maybe that helps a botcreater a bit :(... Well anyway, I don't see a dung script any time soon, maybe in 1 or 2 years, but definetly not now ;) :P :D! Funny thing: It would be the first bot that actually helps normal players in a good way getting xp/whatever!