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QFT I'm not going to get into another big debate with someone else as I already have one on my hands, but take a look at some of the arguments on both sides of it if you want a good idea of the main points. Edit: Stupid wording :XD:

I haven't made a post on this page yet! I must rectify this immediately! So, erm, had anyone noticed how the art has improved since the first few pages? I mean, you don't notice it at all when you read through it for the first time, but once you go back and look at the first few you can tell that it has improved and become cleaner. But of course, who wouldn't improve after drawing 700+ pages :P .

I'm going to see them on Thursday :P My favourite band would have to be Weezer. I saw them back in January. Good times :P .

I don't snake but it's just how people play. They powerslide very quickly, which only some people can get right. How is it a glitch? I'm not a fan of snaking. I just don't understand how people call it a glitch. :-k I agree. Snaking is not a glitch, it's a strategy utilizing power slides, which are obviously not a glitch. If you want a real glitch, check out shadow freezing in MP:H. Hella fun to do, but most definietely a glitch and not exactly fair. So I don't (usually) use it.

For anyone who has read Harry Potter, this is a Lovegood worthy theory :lol: . Seriously, these things have been disproven so many times. And an eyesore website isn't going to change the facts.

No, I live in Sri Lanka :P . O lol...We had a priest from Sri Lanka come to our parish about a month ago. I can't remember his name though. If I remember his name I'll post it to see if it rings a bell. I kid, I kid :P . I live northeast of da city. Really? For some reason it always seemed like you lived near me :-k And I seem to remember you saying somewhere that you go to an all-boy school too. Wouldn't that be weird. . . DaDieselDude and I are friends IRL by the way.

You should be careful when you make generalisations :D. Generally they are taken for their euphoric effect. However, heroin can be used for mood modifiers, especially by women users with mental health/personality disorders to level out their social personalities (Room 1996). Heroin is also often used for short-term anxiety relief, used inappropriately to maintain weight loss and to temporarily escape psychological memories such as sexual abuse. There are other reasons and it depends on each user. Here are a few quotes I've personally taken from counselling heroin users (Names have been changed). "I've gotta show that he doesn't have complete control over me, don't I?" - Lisa (21). Lisa felt an increase in power and control in some aspects in her life such as her relationship and her employment. Dawn (27) remembered feeling repulsed by the whole heroin scene. She felt "confident and really good". She managed to stay clean to finish a 2 year post graduate course. She still found her heroin use very pleasurable but felt it could cause her problems in her career. Dawn managed to limit her use to the end of the week when she was not working and not beyond her financial means. And to the ignorant who think alcohol is safe: Alcohol is the third leading cause of death in Australia and second leading cause of death in Australia for women, accounting for 900 deaths in 1998 compared to 185 illicit drug related deaths (NH&MRC 2001). 70% of Australian children under the age of 13 report having consumed alcohol and this increases to 90% by the young age of 15 (AIHW 2002a). Compared to 40-50% of Australians aged 16-24 years who have reported trying cannabis at least once (PDPC 2002), the 10% of older adolescents and young adults who have tried amphetamines (Moon et al. 1999), the 7% of older adolescents and young adults who have tried MDMA (who mind you most users were relatively well educated and mostly employed) (AIHW 2002a), the 7% of young people who have tried chroming compared to the 2% who do it on a regular basis (Moon et al. 1999) and 1% of young Australians who have at least tried opiates (AIHW 2002a). Meh, when taken out of context I guess you could do that, but it only furthers my argument in our little debate. People use heroin for completely different reasons than alcohol. But thanks for the tidbits : Oh, and the alcohol stuff, I worship you on my knees for providing solid statistics :thumbsup:

[hide=Shockingly blatant personal info] In the Cincinnati Enquirer my favorite is Frazz :-w . You a Cinci native? No, I live in Sri Lanka :P . O lol...We had a priest from Sri Lanka come to our parish about a month ago. I can't remember his name though. If I remember his name I'll post it to see if it rings a bell. In the Cincinnati Enquirer my favorite is Frazz :-w . I get the Cincy Enquirer also. I'm going to apply for a job there too, see if I can deliver papers around here (SE Indiana). I enjoy Frazz, and I like the penguin one on the back. Can't think of the name right now though. I used to live in Southern Indiana. Bright to be exact. Good times at North Dearborn Elementary. Anyways, good luck with the paper route job. Btw I'm friends with Mark Curnutte's son. (He writes about the Bengals in the sports page) [/hide] Give it away much? :lol: You would be proud of knowing him. . . Anyway, Zits is good, and so are Frazz and Dilbert. The rest of them are so-so. And I hate Marmaduke as well, horrible art and just plain stupid.

^Oh man. The virus has spread to avatars too :ohnoes: . Considering that Ash is a guy, I can see nothing but humorous moments ahead. When have any of their shopping trips not been rampant with them? (And I'm including the car parts in "shopping" :lol: )

Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Good marketing. You are quite right about the writing, it is mediocre (maybe a mite better, and she has improved greatly throughout the series, but it still isn't great), but I think the storyline and fictional world she created is also part of the appeal, and made it easier to market. Having movies made helped a lot as well IMO.

Exactly, THC is the active substance. It causes the highs that users experience. And we can state with reasonable certainty that it is causing the drop in intelligence that you are talking about, so less of it would be a good thing and make marijuana less harmful on the whole. And I stand by my argument on the reduction of drug dealers. If marijuana, the most abused illegal drug, is no longer illegal and profitable for them to sell, then they just lost a good portion of their business. And as I said before, users will be less likely to go to them when they have a legal soft drug that they can use. I've said before, the dealers raise the price to maximize their profit. It would be cheaper legalized. But if this point is no longer a big issue, we can probably drop it. I think you missed the point on that one: Using marijuana is a crime. People are therefore being punished for it, crowding jail space and backing up the legal system. If it wasn't a crime, they would not be arrested for it. And it should not be a crime, because pot is the least harmful of the drugs out there, we have established that. And as for the government turning a profit, think of all the societal problems right now. The revenue from legal sales of marijuana can be put to good use rectifying these problems. And as far as putting it before other aspects, it doesn't make a difference, really. Instead of kids being told that it's illegal to smoke pot (which only draws them to it more), they are told the same thing as about alcohol and cigarettes, both of which are more harmful to the users in both their physical and social health. Less hazardous? No, I don't think so. Alcohol is quite possibly the worst. And they still do not belong grouped together. People choose to use heroin because it produces the desired effect and they know it. Most people don't choose to get drunk, they cannot control their body's craving for more once they've had too much. It's addictive in a different way than heroin. Heroin is more of a mental (though it does cause bodily dependence, of course) addiction, and people choose to start using because, as I said, they want what it can offer. No one looks at alcohol the same way as they do heroin. We already have morphine abuse as a problem. Why switch it out with heroin? It would just make the abuse way worse and more dangerous because, as you say, heroin is more potent. This isn't really relevant to marijuana, becuase marijuana has uses that cannot be replicated with larger doses of anything. I suggest we drop this as well. Then it seems we agree on this point. See first point about THC. And, since it seems that only the really heavy users suffered, and it is possible to recover, I can't see this as being an greater a problem than alcoholics, since they can quit and suffer no lasting damage, unlike alcoholics. You've received testimony from actual posters who claim that they can easily put it down. What more can you need? On a side note, good debate. Glad to see we can actually have one without flames. (Ignoring some of the other people posting. . . :uhh: )

Seriously, please don't ruin a constructive thread where people are trying to have serious discussion with pointless and childish flames. This thread doesn't deserve to be locked, so don't cause it to be.

You don't realise what Misfile has caused, have you? :uhh: Hundreds of hours have been lost to that comic, we don't want the same to happen with another one! :ohnoes: Muhahaha and all that .

This thread is growing faster than a flame war on the RSOF. . .

^You got your quotes mixed up, my friend. Never said those things, that was someone else :P .

Wow. Just wow. Total spam.

Lol. Personally I would ditch them both and get a Wii, but 360 is the better of the two.

My prediction? People will soon start to hate Rowling because they will be overhyping everything she writes, and when it doesn't live up to Harry Potter they'll feel let down and blame it on her. She'll still have mass success just because of her name, though.

Meh, I am pretty accomplished at snaking, but only because it's the only way to win against other snakers. I don't use it unless my opponent uses it first. Too bad the game actually belongs to my brother, so I can't go giving away the friend code.

... an example of such a substance would be? I said that in my original post, THC levels are unregualted and dangerously high. Also dealers are not careful about keeping the drugs they deal in decanted, so other hard drugs can potentially be mixed in. "Need"? Capitalism involves "supply and demand", not "need". Um, ok? The demand is high from the number of people using marijuana, and the supply is not exactly unequal. Don't understand what you are saying here. And control and regulation of the substance - which you're also advocating - is one more thing to deal with. We already have a pathetic attempt at control and regualtion of marijuana: "It's illegal." Which is causing a lot more problems than if it were legal and under government control. One more substance to regulate is a small price to pay for lowering crime rate, freeing up jail space, and oh, making massive profit from the legal sales. Under that logic, no one would be addicted to heroin 'cause alcohol is legal. Reality says; Not true. People are addicted to heroin for completely different reasons than alcohol. Alcohol addiction is bodily dependence, heroin addiction is for the highs. People choose to use heroin because of the highs, alcohol addiction results from unconsciously drinking more and more. They are in different leagues. No, it doesn't, 'cause with that logic we should legalize heroin, because hey, morphine is a legal pain killer! Right, so we should use one of the most dangerous drugs out there for purposes that are already served by other substances :roll: Why use heroin when it has no unique uses and will damage patients. That is because I have little to no experience with either of them. In fact I have never heard of a drop in intelligence caused by marijuana and would like to see some proof of it.

I'm quite perplexed by your reasoning. First you state that marijuana not addictive. We'll treat this statement like we're talking about a new pair of pants. Now, unless I suffer from some weirdass disorder, I'm not going to be addicted to buying new pants. Therefor, as a - relatively speaking - well-adapted individual in modern society, if I found a pair of pants I want that I couldn't afford, I would not engage in illicit activities to make the money to get said pair of pants. Stealing to be able to afford a new pair of pants I want just isn't an option; If I can't afford it, I don't buy it. I don't get any new pants. Waitamainute, you say, we're talking about marijuana here! Oh right you are. So if I'm such an intelligent well-adapted individual who just likes to experience an higher state of mind, and who is absolutetly not addicted to any kind of drugs ohno, why can't I do like normal people do when they can't afford something; not buy it? See where I'm going here? Connecting crime rates with marijuana because marijuana is expensive is a ridicolous idea; The reason why junkies steal is because the need for the drug is bigger both than their personal economy and their ability to withstand not having the drug because they couldn't afford a new fix. If you're not addicted - assuming you have no other faults - being without the drug until you *can* afford to buy is not a problem. In short, you're making a contradictory argument. Secondly, a substance not being addictive means you can quit, it doesn't mean that while you use it - and I'm not just meaning the high's - that loosely quantified thing we'll call "intelligence" goes down. Which is what the guy you quoted was commenting on, and IIRC is a proven fact of marijuana use. Call me silly, but isn't this a bloody bad thing rather than something that can be brushed of by noting "well, once they quit, their intelligence will return back to normal, and quitting is easy!" Oh, and about "maximizing their profits", just why the heck do you believe any legal venture to sell marijuana would - in a modern capitalistic society - not go in for maximizing their profits in turn? That ever killed anyone or caused any kind of harmful effects? Therein lies my meaning. Marijuana is not addictive in itself, but the substances that can be in it as a result of being bandied about by drug dealers can be, and they are also most likely more harmful than marijuana. I'm not saying that nobody has ever experienced harmful effect from smoking marijuana, but the reason that they do is traced back to dealers. With marijuana legalized, these substances would not be in marijuana, therfore not causing their harmful effects, including addiction. And the government will try to maximize their profits, but the sheer number of people who use marijuana will in essence do it for them, so they won't need to make prices rediculously high as they are now when buying from dealers. Mate, I'm not going to claim to have statistics on how many of the people in american jails for drug dealing went in for dealing in marijuana and only marijuana, but I'm more than willing to claim that the drugloards in south america with a budget larger than the nations they live in do not gain their ridicolous amounts of money from selling pot. Now, this thing called cocaine on the other hand... Underground drug rings would not magically dissappear. (And again with the stealing.) Drug rings would not completely disappear, no, but you're reading what I said literally and without thinking about it. With legal marijuana, the market for illegal marijuana would disappear, and that's one less thing for the government to deal with. And it would go a long way to getting rid of other drug markets as well. Save those who are already addicted, who would rather use cocaine illegally and risk being in trouble with the law than use marijuana perfectly legally and with less detrimental effects? They would still be able to experience their high or whatever, so there would be no desire to go after the hard drugs that are still illegal. Has no bearing on actually legalizing marijuana for recreational use, just legalizing for medical use. But it furthers the argument that marijuana is not in the same league as hard drugs, and is better off legalized.

Well, Reb, what I would do is first divide it up by the books. Then I would list major plot points from each book and make connections between them. Then I would try and make levels for overarching plotlines such as Rumisiel's good deeds (only one big one so far, but that's a major part of it), Ash's races, Ash and Emily's relationship, etc. What I mean by levels is like Rumisiel excorcising Kate is big, and one of the good deeds he needs to do to get back into heaven, but since they seem to be few and far between that plotline would kind of underline the others. And then there would be the relationships, as part of the consequences of the misfile they would be big, and they occur more frequently. And then such things as Ash's races, introduction of characters, recurring characters, etc. Hope that made sense lol, hard to get ideas like that across in writing.

Way to burst everyone's bubble. :P Still funny as hell though. Shame on the OP :shame:

Lmao. What did they say lol?