I won't comment on the truth of this, as I do not know whether this is true or not scientifically and statistically speaking, but isn't one of your right wing talking points that "teachers are so hard to fire which is why education sucks!" ? How does that level out with that often heard claim? Bit of cognitive dissonance, no? Teachers are hard to fire, firing a teacher is not the same as laying bunches of generic union workers off. I'll come back to a thought experiment in a bit. To the talking points about why education sucks, there are many reasons that I'd rather not go into right now. I'd say the events happening in Wisconsin right now are relatively unrelated to the quality of education, I'd like to believe that it really is a budget issue. There are a few statistics that are interesting, I believe that Wisconsin teachers automatically have $1000 per year deducted from their salaries that go straight to the union. Part of this bill will remove that requirement. The purpose of a corporation is to make money. The reason people go to work is to make money. Most of the time, people's interests and the corporations they work for will share similar interests, in the fact that both want to profit. Sometimes, unfortunately, an individual's motivation, their interest, does not align with the corporation's interest. Usually when that happens, they either quit, the corporation fires them, or they get laid off. I don't have a problem with this, and I don't see why anyone should have a problem with this. You should tax me more. This year I had to pay directly 22% of my income to support the government, even though I'm not yet out of college. What's another 18% among socialists? Tax me high enough and I might just go on welfare, I'll get more for free. Anyhow - the union thought experiment. You're the leader of a large union, and you have to negotiate with management. Management tells you that they can't afford all the hard fought things you've worked for, the benefits for your members. They tell you they'll have to cut everything by 10%. What would you rather have them do, lay off 10% of the workforce, or cut everyone's salary and benefits by 10%? The question to you is, would you rather have 100% of people complaining about losing 10%, or would you rather have 10% complaining about 100%? Oh, and here's the kicker. That 10% that lose their jobs will likely go elsewhere to find work, they're not likely to stick around or be in your union in the near future.