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Do you think its possible he could eventually regain power like Zaros? What about the factions that obey him, what happens when they find out that he no longer hears them or whatever Bandos does to his subjects

I forgot about Lucien& Zaros. But That is what I am saying. The gods could make avatars to fight for them. And who knows what bandos could have used his avatar for later. Maybe not world destruction, but some amount of destruction.

As we saw through the Chosen Commander, Bandos had an avatar of himself on runescape. I'm not entirely sure if the throne room where you fought him is allowed for the gods to interfere with, but Bandos did directly interfere with mortals, correct? Do you think this could lead up to anything? The gods could see Bandos's act and attempt to do the same themselves, in which a 2nd Pseudo-Godwars may occur. Or maybe Guthix will see Bandos's act and punish him for it and if so, how? What about Lucien and Zaros? Lucien is very near god-power (if not already) and is on the Runescape plane. With the stone of jas in his posession, he probably can also make a pendant-like thing as backup in case his plan fails. Im not sure what Zaros is up to, but again, an avatar can do his dirty work for him. I didn't know there were more avatars :shock: Armadyl boss may be an avatar, but im not sure about the rest. Do you think the Gods could use avatars to have their way on runescape?

This is a good point. That's probably the reason why Zanik and Zanik alone was marked by Bandos; she would become probably the best fighter of the cave goblin race. It really was her destiny, but she broke free from that when she took that amulet off. That and the fact the entire goblin story line has been low level so you can't expect a sudden leap up to an uber mega boss It might also be worth keeping in mind that, because of the Guthixian Edicts, it may have been simply impossible for Bandos to make his full powers manifest. This, along with the fact the he was acting through the body of a weak goblin meant that the potential strength of his avatar was greatly diminished. As such, the boss had only a tiny fraction of Bandos's true power. @pikmin-that's quite true. The goblin priests keep getting weaker and weaker. I expect this priest to be level 25, so Zanik as the avatar may have been 3 times as strong with regeneration and range attack. @paw claw: cooks assistant->RFD?

Fav char is zanik, which may be neutral good (w/o pendant of course) My character is probably neutral, with the ocasional chaotic neutral or neutral evil

I thought about one of the articles for a while, and He's right...I do complain for something...A better way to train hunter! I like the skill, but dislike the fact that I have to stay far from civilization at a chin spot that is likely crowded.

Anyone know any number for fletching?

I want to get a skillcape, but I am quite poor. I have about 4.1mil right now, 2.6mil invested in MTK. What would be the least money consuming way to level up these two skills? If someone can give me an estimate on the cost, that'd be great. :thumbsup: I might also be getting 99 hunter. I like that skill.

Well, i was hoping for a quest that I still can't do, but I REALLY like the goblin series, so this is good. I just need to figure out how to fight boss and if I can bring familars (I might range it with dragonhide or melee with protect mage)

The way i like my skills is so that I can use them to show off my level in that skill. It may not be high, but I am proud of it nonetheless (Summoning, Combat (for armor and weapons), agility, anything that looks cool from a quest)

I did the circus in edgeville not long after this was posted. Got my RM pants =)

I do call people noobs, but only if they do something that is obviously nooby (Beg for gold. I still give them a tip on how to make money if they ask me though). Some people just don't know, so if I do, i tell them

Well, some people just flat out hate hunter. I just hope the amount of player stays the same so that the density decreases.

Hey, you wanna know what else must be useless garbage? Party Hats! :wall: Ok, you wear boots of lightness and a spottier cape...which reduces you weight to the point in which it is negligible unless you have stuff with you. Boots...and a cape...which few randoms give rewards for... I don't see why you are not wearing the random stuff, other than the fact that they're "useless garbage" (I do hope you are ALWAYS doing something, or else the weight difference from the boots and cape make them "garbage" as well. I imagine you only keep the highest level armour you can because its "garbage" to wear something that won't help you. Do you have a circus outfit? I doubt it because it too must be "garbage")

That's a pretty good idea. One can work on the nonmember skills kinda like a skiller, then when you go members, get summoning and raise it a couple levels so that your familar is stronger than you are finish summoning quest at level 10 and you can have a familar 16 levels higher than you. Get to level 19 and you have a pretty powerful level 51 familar. Training will then go much faster.

So we can finsd shades on our own now. Cool. I rarely buried my bones, so I only have a shade top. What are the "save up for costume" costumes?

Is castle wars not past some aggressive level 53 Ogres? By the same token castle wars is "Open" to level 3's as well. THe thing is that a level 3 in castle wars has little luck, unless playing with other low levels. In Soul wars, there are monsters to fight that require slayer, thus they are useless unless they are burying bones and healing his/her team. Its possible they put it here so they dont need to add a new teleport, thus allowing them to use another teleport (Ring of dueling) for a future game. Now, they didn't need to put soul wars portal in edgeville, but It certainly doesn't need to be in nardah either. Putting it somewhere like the wild or burthrope/cammy/taverly area would be nice IMO. Or they could replace the portal with an NPC that is not such an eyesore

O_o wow...just...wow

Nachalo Why did we get over it? Its either because there was a reason to remove it (Rwt) and people understood that, or because there were alternatives (current and future). And who is "we" anyway? I have still seen "bring Wildy back threads" I still like the old wild because of the lack of revs. I never went into the old wild but twice and the new wild thrice. I am not "over it", the people begging for the old wildy are not "over it", and the people who quit because of the lack of wild are not "over it." Ok, I phrased that poorly. What I mean by "we got over it" is that hundreds of thousands of people still play RuneScape, and the game is continuing on very, very well. And the implementation of my ideas wouldn't stop it. What would the "greater good" be in deleting rares anyway? Giving all players equal opportunity and eliminating rares' effect on the economy. You work for Jagex? :o Otherwise, who are you to be telling me what the original idea was? For all we know, Jagex wanted to have 1337ly priced items. You know what I think, I think that the tradable rares were for whoever played then or wanted to give their buddies one, and the price is a side effect. I don't need to work for them to know that's what they intended. It's even on the Tip.It website rares page... go look. Thus it was also the players greed that the price of a whip is abused and rose to a ridiculous price before falling. No my friend, it is the law of supply and demand. There is a limited supply of party hats, we want party hats, there is a high price of them. More people join the game, the demand increases the price of party hats rise. People with Party hats leave the game or rares or consumed, the supply goes down, the price increases. If players were super intelligent, we could fix the problem ourselves by high-alching all rares. Then Jagex could delete them entirely or reintroduce them as untradeable. But that isn't how society works - I'll admit I wouldn't even alch a party hat (I'd sell it), and Jagex will need to solve the rares problem for us. Imagine the amount of whips in the game must equal the amount of rares in the game. All others are destroyed, but you still have a whip. Well of course you are going to give a whip for a few mil even though they cost a many millions (in this scenario), I mean, If I sold it at what it is being asked for, then I would be greedy, wouldn't I? That explains the supply and demand thing :roll: If Party hat is useless, then what does that make other "show off" items? should we make them available to everybody too? I do want a highwayman mask, a black cavalier, and a mime mask & beret. Those items are hot holiday items. Useless items should have at least SOME idea of a reasonable price (TT items do), or should be untradeable. I notice that you didn't say your purple party hat. Why is that? It seems you don't care for rares, so this may be biased for all I know. You are correct. I think rares are stupid. Even if rares were 100k each, I wouldn't buy them because it's a waste of money for something that does nothing to improve my account. If they're free, on the other hand, I can detract from my normal activities for 5 minutes to get them all at once, and put them in my costume room to rot. My money is better spent on swords I can bash peoples' heads in with, and armor to prevent them from doing the same, than a hat that does nothing. Its a good thing I learned about logical fallacies in english recently: Non Sequitur. That first statement had nothing to do with the second. In response to the first statement. Its not that you can be anyone, its that you can not be yourself. In responce to the second statement: why not? I joined at a later date than some people, shouldn't I be able to play on RSC? Shouldn't I be able to re experience the falador massacre, the knife glitch, the old wild, the old graphics, the glitches, the guy that made legs into skirts and vice versa (D shirt -->d legs = cash)? I think you are tellling me I should I'm talking about the ability to obtain in-game rewards (items & other things). None of those are achievements/rewards; they are events, experiences, etc. You say the party hat is less useful than toilet paper. Certainly is. I can't use a partyhat to wipe - yeah Therefore, you should have no problem removing all the treaure trail items and replacing them with money, would you? I mean, they have about the same use as a party hat, except are more common. Lets make an NPC hand out free TT items. I mean, come on, all you had to do was earn a few million gp or play for some years to get a party hat. How about we allow everyone to get all the quest items from an NPC without doing the quest. I bet we would all love elite black armour and Dagon'hai robes. Those ancient magics could be available from the start. Lets cut out the need to even use runes! I mean, you only have to spend like 500k or something for 60 magic, so lets let ice rush become available at level 1 magic. That should make us all even right? I don't even have enough time in life to get Ancient magic, a dark bow,a godsword, or even a party hat. Why dont we just let another NPC give out free AGSs? I mean, its only a symbol of obtaining 75 attack and being able to get 1 from GWD or buy it, just as a party hat is a symbol of having enough money to get one. Don't agree with me? Then you don't agree with Jard y dooku. Treasure trail items are not rare items. Runes are not rare items. Ancient magic isn't even an item. They can be freely obtained at any time, so there is no problem with them. And no, you're completely wrong about the AGS. It's not a status symbol at all. It's a useful weapon allowing you to train up to 4 skills. Wow, Why can't I write this much in my english stuff? :shock: konets [/hide] All in all, thank you for your thorough post. Again, I don't agree, but I am glad you took the time to read my post thoroughly and post your thoughts. I hope you appreciate that I have done the same for your post. I understand that TT items, runes, ancients, and AGS are not rares, but there is the same idea. You work hard, you get a reward. For the AGS, it is a useful weapon, true. However, It still is a symbol just like the party hat. The AGS symbolizes the determination to get 60mil and 75 attack or the determination to get one from armaldyl general. Likewise, the party hat symbolizes that you have played for a while or have the similar determination to get the money to pay for a phat. If what you wanted to happen did occur, then we would need some way to store the spare money (certificates or something) and maybe the year cape thing that people are talking about

I don't spot steal, but I will defend my spot. It may be because I was here first, it may be an American sense of competion, but I won't give up my spot.

How far did you guys watch this? because I just got... RUNEROLLED

nachalo I seem to replaced "tradeable rares" with "party hat" alot. But I digress What is the purpose of a ring of stone? emote enhancers? Gnome firelighters? Gnome goggles or scarf? We don't need them either. They are about as useful as a phat, except they are not used like the phat: as a status symbol. That is the way I see the tradable discontinued items. If you have a phat, people around understand you have or have had a good deal of money or you could have a good deal of money. By replacing the party hats with money, you have destroyed a status symbol, symbolizing riches. Go to a king or queen, and replace their crown with some money, and that's effectively what this does. Then you would let diango give them out? That's horrible! Everyone would be wearing phats, then no one would be wearing phats unless they wanted to match with an outfit. You compare the party hats to toilet paper. Realize, then, that making them available to everyone makes them about as useful as used, wet toilet paper that sat in the back of your house for a few years. Did you know: People can only have 1 ectophial Did you know: people can have more than 1 phat? Did you know: People can have more than 2.1 bil in phats if they have played for a long time or have a lot of cash? Did you know: 2.1 billion is the maximum amount of money that can be had? People have this much. Replacing the party hat with money then efficively destroys the cash people could have had with their money replaced phats. Congratulations! Following with this plan eliminates millions of gp from the economy and ticks off many people. Let's lower the money bracket a little. There are people who really want a party hat, me included. Some of these people actually have the ability to buy a phat. Now imagine you just saved up 111.4m (GWD, DK, 200mil hunter exp, idc) and want a red phat. The game is updated soon before that, allowing everyone to get your coveted red phat. You can get that phat, but your dreams have been crushed. Some people have played since RSC. They kept their favorite white phat, easter egg, and pumpkin. They promised never to trade it. Suddenly, these items are all mainstream. There is no point in keeping them anymore because more can be obtained. Some people played when holiday items were dced (me included) I like my skeleton outfit, so around halloween, I wear it. Last halloween, some people wondered where I got it from, and Its because I played longer than they did. The same with the amazing ring of egg (i missed that one because I was out of the country at the time, but If I were there, it would be amazing to use at easter!) These people who have played for a while now no longer can show how long they have been playing.You may say, "Ya, but the emotes and songs are given out." The songs can only be heard by you and the emotes only last about 5 seconds, so they cannot be shown to everybody who you see, unless you want to ignore everything around you and stop what you are doing in order to show them an emote. The emotes are available to all during the event because they are not shown as well as costumes but for a few seconds. Why did we get over it? Its either because there was a reason to remove it (Rwt) and people understood that, or because there were alternatives (current and future). And who is "we" anyway? I have still seen "bring Wildy back threads" I still like the old wild because of the lack of revs. I never went into the old wild but twice and the new wild thrice. I am not "over it", the people begging for the old wildy are not "over it", and the people who quit because of the lack of wild are not "over it." What would the "greater good" be in deleting rares anyway? You work for Jagex? :o Otherwise, who are you to be telling me what the original idea was? For all we know, Jagex wanted to have 1337ly priced items. You know what I think, I think that the tradable rares were for whoever played then or wanted to give their buddies one, and the price is a side effect. Thus it was also the players greed that the price of a whip is abused and rose to a ridiculous price before falling. No my friend, it is the law of supply and demand. There is a limited supply of party hats, we want party hats, there is a high price of them. More people join the game, the demand increases the price of party hats rise. People with Party hats leave the game or rares or consumed, the supply goes down, the price increases. Imagine the amount of whips in the game must equal the amount of rares in the game. All others are destroyed, but you still have a whip. Well of course you are going to give a whip for a few mil even though they cost a many millions (in this scenario), I mean, If I sold it at what it is being asked for, then I would be greedy, wouldn't I? That explains the supply and demand thing :roll: If Party hat is useless, then what does that make other "show off" items? should we make them available to everybody too? I do want a highwayman mask, a black cavalier, and a mime mask & beret. I notice that you didn't say your purple party hat. Why is that? It seems you don't care for rares, so this may be biased for all I know. Its a good thing I learned about logical fallacies in english recently: Non Sequitur. That first statement had nothing to do with the second. In response to the first statement. Its not that you can be anyone, its that you can not be yourself. In responce to the second statement: why not? I joined at a later date than some people, shouldn't I be able to play on RSC? Shouldn't I be able to re experience the falador massacre, the knife glitch, the old wild, the old graphics, the glitches, the guy that made legs into skirts and vice versa (D shirt -->d legs = cash)? I think you are tellling me I should You say the party hat is less useful than toilet paper. Therefore, you should have no problem removing all the treaure trail items and replacing them with money, would you? I mean, they have about the same use as a party hat, except are more common. Lets make an NPC hand out free TT items. I mean, come on, all you had to do was earn a few million gp or play for some years to get a party hat. How about we allow everyone to get all the quest items from an NPC without doing the quest. I bet we would all love elite black armour and Dagon'hai robes. Those ancient magics could be available from the start. Lets cut out the need to even use runes! I mean, you only have to spend like 500k or something for 60 magic, so lets let ice rush become available at level 1 magic. That should make us all even right? I don't even have enough time in life to get Ancient magic, a dark bow,a godsword, or even a party hat. Why dont we just let another NPC give out free AGSs? I mean, its only a symbol of obtaining 75 attack and being able to get 1 from GWD or buy it, just as a party hat is a symbol of having enough money to get one. Don't agree with me? Then you don't agree with Jard y dooku. Wow, Why can't I write this much in my english stuff? :shock: konets

Yes, but it would be cool to have a baby King Black Dragon if you had 99 summoning. Indeed. A KING black dragon having an egg works nicely doesn't it? I want to see the charm reward for this stuff

Heh, I did not expect Mod MMG to make such a lengthy post. Interesting stuff though. I feel happy that they may be fixing some of the "you need to be members to do this" stuff. I am a member, but when I was f2p, that was so annoying. They might just remove the option to do certain things on F2p worlds (pickpocket, chop canoe station, jump fence) which would be pretty awesome. Remove the kiddy stuff. Cool ;) That will cetainly be interesting, although I hope they do not sacrifice any of the humor in the game while doing so. Oh and no BTS. I am not sure whether I hate it (no warning of what I should prepare for) or Love it (SURPRISE!!!)

The way I see it is that the Balance Elemental is like the Chaos elemental. The chaos elemental tells us about the future, so the balance elemental might be telling us about what already happened.