Inuashakent

Thanks, you probably did.

Slayer is the best source for charms if you don't have money to burst rock lobsters, or feel like camping at waterfiends. It doesn't get boring either with you moving from monster to monster. Far from, but you get Slayer xp...

Nothing, besides world 6 bandos. May have missed some things...

Do you know the crims/hr difference? A little less than 2x.

Yeah, his is outdated, and it basically tells them basic info and where they are. (Which can be found in the Database.) They aren't assigned by Duradel. I'm not going to complete this guide at the cost of efficiency. I'm keeping Sumona OUT. You've a lot of nerve to post that. I have already had to ask you to remove mention of my guide in yours as it was a blatant attempt to get more traffic in searches to your guide. You did and I wished you well on your guide. I can't post what I think about competing guides? Nerve? Honestly, I'm holding back. I've had 3 friends pm me about how annoyingly cocky know it all you are to negative comments. Don't even make me start about being personal. I'm just stating professional guide-writing opinion. Instead you choose to take shots like this intent on propping up your guide and stroking your ego. Strange how I didn't even bring up the topic, but it was a response, eh? You aren't 99 Slayer and your guide and opinions reflect that. You pmed me that last time we had this argument. Again, I was holding back and refrained myself from saying how completely arrogent you are for saying that. Experience honestly barely means anything in Runescape. It's all about knowledge, which, again, cannot be determined by how much time you play Runescape. 90-99 Slayer is all the same tasks. Do you really think that is an argument? Gosh. Think before posting such things in the future. YOU think before posting such things in the future. Just because your guide is in AOW, it doesn't make it any better. Please don't post in my guides anymore, as you clearly don't have anything to say. Axe Man Jack Kent. PS Your extensive use of Show/Hide boxes lags people who access your guide and whitescreens them on RS. Nitpicking, eh? The extensive uses of hide boxes havn't gave me whitescreens before, and I run on a computer with barely any memory left, plus it's old. Honestly, if i get enough complaints I'll remove them; until then, I'll keep them here. Plus, it makes my guide organized and much easier to find stuff. Edit: From the last ~1 hour I've wasted, I clearly saw I shouldn't post about your guide here. We just won't mention your guide here, and from now on, if anybody ever mentions your guide, I will just say "Please do not say anything about AMJ's guide."

It honestly barely matters. I would go Laws though, because I enjoy abyss more than Ghaark. Honestly, it's opinion.

You'll probably get 99:99.

Charm wise, it's made out to be alot better than it truely is.

Very true. However, don't sacrifise too much offensive for Prayer, such as the Unholy book for Rune defender.

Lol, my guide answers all those question except for the last one. There are no good tasks to camp at except demons and mages, but many tasks you get like Black demons are great. Edit: Work up to 99. Edit 2: Xp rates should be ~25-35% lower then normal training if you use a cannon, and other speed amplifiers...

Even in Chaos Tunnels? I guess I didn't know that (or notice anything when I went through that portal quick). And yes, all I'm looking for is the charms to get to 70 summoning quickest. Yeah, the facemask is needed for the dust devils, not just the well. If you attack one without it they will lower your stats ridiculously like abberants or banshees. Wow, thanks for that very helpful information! So my best bet is to get 85 combat stats and go camp at fiends? I got 10m combat xp at Waterfiends, go with that ;)

You're doing a test, which means 100% attention... And you're STILL not achieving the same xp rates. Trust me, Zarfot is too good.

Yeah, don't sell out your bank... And BGS sucks for almost everything besides GWD. I my SGS. If you don't sell it, you technically didn't lose any money. \

Lots of responces... As me and Queen has said, this guide isn't complete yet... but honestly, I love how it's turning out compared to my Summoning guide. And mathmatically, Rune defender is by far better in all situation except for Scarabites and Wyverns. you can wear Proselyte plate and V skirt without one anyways, especially with Piety. Thanks. ;) :lol: Yeah, his is outdated, and it basically tells them basic info and where they are. (Which can be found in the Database.) They aren't assigned by Duradel. I'm not going to complete this guide at the cost of efficiency. I'm keeping Sumona OUT. Thanks for the responces. ;)

The problem with Cannonballs is their inefficiency...

Difference between those two: 240k/hour (120k/task when using piety) profit in Ct, 700k loss under the Lighthouse. 940k. It takes 15 minutes at waterfiends to get back the summoning xp lost by doing them in the chaos tunnels, 4*940k is 3840k/hour needed for lighthouse to be more efficient. This is even more messed up :?. Seems weird to me to calculate in hours instead of in tasks, as it's slayer. You forgot Slayer xp. And about it being wierd, ... math tends to seem wierd at times, as it gives unsuspected results.

Ok, but mention that it is IMPOSSIBLE to buy ANY third age. It costs 300+m street price, by the way.

Listen to this guy. Don't listen to this guy. Bones are a waste of time, unless you can't last. That's what Guthan's is good for... and try to aviod the Bunyip, by the way.

Around 15k maybe? I can't do the exact math right now.

That's 15200 for crimsons, 1218 for gold, 1694, and 783 for blue. = 18895, which takes (100 xp per Dags, and 35k/hour.) So that is 350 kills per hour. That's 38673 Summoning xp per hour. That's 3718 for gold, 2736 for crimsons, 2677 for blue, and 1843 for green. = 10974 xp per 171. (15 minute task, according to Zarfot.) So that's 51340 Summoning xp. Calculate in the other charms, and that's what you'll get. You get more summoning xp off Dagannoths, which tells you you guys are wrong before you started. If you do it with that math, and calculate the costs on Piety (If you're not, you can't use Zarfot's rates of 350 kill/hour. It will lower to at least 300-320/hour.) That's why I averaged them out to what normal people make, at an average level... which I consider halfway.

still wondering what your stance is on "slayer being a money maker": you say, "use prayer if you do gwd a lot": that implies you actually loose money with slayer?? Maybe you should take into consideration with every monster not only speed of training, but also what's most profitable.. No, you still gain prayer if you use Cannonballs and even Piety! (Piety costs ALOT more than cballs). The reason I said if you GWD is because you gain more money without it, but either way you still gain money. Sorry, I missed your question.

If you're cutting for more than 4 hours, get it. You can always sell it back later.

There is no way to balance two skills out, especially ones that rely on other skills, such as Slayer and Summoning. Therefore, the fact that there is no such thing as "most efficient method to train Magic", makes it impossible to find an exact number when comparing two skills.

For me, basically all tasks are prayer tasks. :lol: And yeah, get Guthans. Once you get higher level like me ( :lol: ) there is no need for Guthans. \ (Not due to the Bunyip, but because food suffices...)

Yea, I was assuming I had made a couple mistakes :oops:. And if you're assigning any value to slayer experience slayer will always be the better choice :thumbup:. Yeah, I mentioned that on my first post here. ;) Slayer is... Slayer.