Inuashakent

Because you can redeem it for 70% of the price you payed for it? #-o Excluding the secondary.

The xp they show you is rounded off.

Is I 2 laet?

Sean, you are right.

I will put your opinions to consideration. Epic math is epic. You make money from waterfiends now... I wouldn't be surprised if you make 30m+, if not way. Maybe even enough to pay back for the summoning supplies.

You're from Europe right? Anyways, I hope we'll see more people in the next tourny. I don't really plan on winning though. My snake is broken. :cry:

Bring a Axe and 1k gp, use Ardy. That set-up works fine.

Misread the post... The fastest method is to use a Spirit Kyatt to teleport right south west of an obelisk. If you don't have a Kyatt, try teleporting to tavelry via house/baloon.

I heard of this too...

Wow, thanks. I love constructive critism, it really helps this thread. My answers are in bold.

Theres ones all over runescape. The most commonly used method is edgeville (convenient), or trollheim(fastest).

... 70 mil is 35x more money than I've ever had at once. It's probably 7x more than my entire bank account is worth. Unless I get a lucky clue scroll or something, I'm not spending my limited money on summoning, yet. On the other hand, thanks Wioneo, I'm getting my magic level up currently, probably to level 80 through Superheating (somewhere between 600k-900k loss, I might smith bars into knives and range to earn some profit). (this should earn me the 5 magic levels, get my smithing up to 75, and probably a few range levels... still figuring out what to range, I could start tanking avianeses again...) I'll keep your suggestion in mind once I get around to doing it, it's definitely something that's in my price range (plus I already have most of that). Edit: I'm not sure how we'd do the set up, but I have a few friends willing to go and I wouldn't want to go with less than 3 others on my first time. Thats for 99.

As do I.

Summoning isn't expensive if you don't burst. [hide=Estimate cost to 99 Summoning!]Number of charms required (Assuming using only Crimsons) (Parenthesis is shards per pouch.) Honeybadgers - 535 (84) Bloated leeches - 1,466 (117) Stranger plants - 2,448 (128) Granite lobster - 6,642 (166) Swamp titans - 8,746 (150) Wolpertinger - 5,569 (203) Pack yak -2,187 (198) Iron titan - 7,931 (211) ===== 36,514 Crimson charms The cost of shards (Look above for the number of each and number of shards per pouch.) (I am assuming you buy them for 25 each) Honeybadgers - 1,123,500 Bloated leeches - 4,288,050 Stranger plants - 7,833,600 Granite lobster - 27,564,300 Swamp titans - 32,794,500 Wolpertinger - 28,262,675 Pack yak - 10,825,650 Iron titan - 41,836,025 =====154,528,300 Coins for Shards Cash back for trading shards for 70% at Bogrog. (Look above for the number of each and number of shards per pouch.) (I am assuming you sell them for 25 each) Honeybadgers - 786,450 Bloated leeches - 3,001,635 Stranger plants - 5,483,520 Granite lobster - 19,295,010 Swamp titans - 22,956,150 Wolpertinger - 19,783,872 Pack yak - 7,577,955 Iron titan - 29,285,217 ===== 108,169,809 Coins cash back for Shards ===== 46,358,491 Coins total for Shards Cost of Secondary ingredience (Assuming you buy them for medium price 7/28/08) (Parenthesis is amount needed per level) Honeybadgers - 130 (535) Bloated leeches - 69 (1,466) Stranger plants - 1,144 (2,448) Granite lobster - 1,263 (6,642) Swamp titans - 1,259 (8,746) Wolpertinger - Raw rabbit = 86 | Wolf bone = 453 (5,569) Pack yak - 154 (2,187) Iron titan - 375 (7,931) ===== N/A Number of coins on secondary ingredience Honeybadgers - 69,550 Bloated leeches - 101,154 Stranger plants - 2,800,512 Granite lobster - 3,091,824 Swamp titans - 11,011,214 Wolpertinger - 478934 | 2,522,757 = 3,001,691 Pack yak - 336,798 Iron titan - 2,974,125 ===== 24,386,868 Coins total for Secondary ingredience 70,745,359 Coins total on Secondary ingredience and Shards Cost of charms at Rock lobsters.(I am assuming you bought runes at medium price. 7/28/08) 220 Crimsons/1,000 Bursts 292/Death. 584/Gp on Deaths. 98/Chaos. 392/Gp on Chaos. 16/Water. 64/Gp on Waters. 1040 Coins/Burst. 1,040,000/1000 Bursts 1,040,000/220 Crimsons 4727 Coins per Crimsons at Rock lobsters. 36,514 Crimson charms for 99. 172,601,678 Coins for bursting ===== FINISHING ===== 24,386,868 Coins total for Secondary ingredience 46,358,491 Coins total for Shards 172,601,678 Coins for Burst Rock lobsters. 243,347,037 Coins total if you burst Rock lobsters. 70,745,359 Coins total if you kill Waterfiends/Slayer. (Assuming you don't make any money from either.)(Although you will. ;) )[/hide]

It's not that your not "suppose" to... I just never heard of anybody having a use for such use... unless your beating people up. And them bowing down when they lose. And teleporting back to full life. Basically no application to most people, or at least to me.

It's 70m for 99 summoning... it's not as expensive as most people figure it to be. [hide=Estimate cost to 99 Summoning!]Number of charms required (Assuming using only Crimsons) (Parenthesis is shards per pouch.) Honeybadgers - 535 (84) Bloated leeches - 1,466 (117) Stranger plants - 2,448 (128) Granite lobster - 6,642 (166) Swamp titans - 8,746 (150) Wolpertinger - 5,569 (203) Pack yak -2,187 (198) Iron titan - 7,931 (211) ===== 36,514 Crimson charms The cost of shards (Look above for the number of each and number of shards per pouch.) (I am assuming you buy them for 25 each) Honeybadgers - 1,123,500 Bloated leeches - 4,288,050 Stranger plants - 7,833,600 Granite lobster - 27,564,300 Swamp titans - 32,794,500 Wolpertinger - 28,262,675 Pack yak - 10,825,650 Iron titan - 41,836,025 =====154,528,300 Coins for Shards Cash back for trading shards for 70% at Bogrog. (Look above for the number of each and number of shards per pouch.) (I am assuming you sell them for 25 each) Honeybadgers - 786,450 Bloated leeches - 3,001,635 Stranger plants - 5,483,520 Granite lobster - 19,295,010 Swamp titans - 22,956,150 Wolpertinger - 19,783,872 Pack yak - 7,577,955 Iron titan - 29,285,217 ===== 108,169,809 Coins cash back for Shards ===== 46,358,491 Coins total for Shards Cost of Secondary ingredience (Assuming you buy them for medium price 7/28/08) (Parenthesis is amount needed per level) Honeybadgers - 130 (535) Bloated leeches - 69 (1,466) Stranger plants - 1,144 (2,448) Granite lobster - 1,263 (6,642) Swamp titans - 1,259 (8,746) Wolpertinger - Raw rabbit = 86 | Wolf bone = 453 (5,569) Pack yak - 154 (2,187) Iron titan - 375 (7,931) ===== N/A Number of coins on secondary ingredience Honeybadgers - 69,550 Bloated leeches - 101,154 Stranger plants - 2,800,512 Granite lobster - 3,091,824 Swamp titans - 11,011,214 Wolpertinger - 478934 | 2,522,757 = 3,001,691 Pack yak - 336,798 Iron titan - 2,974,125 ===== 24,386,868 Coins total for Secondary ingredience 70,745,359 Coins total on Secondary ingredience and Shards Cost of charms at Rock lobsters.(I am assuming you bought runes at medium price. 7/28/08) 220 Crimsons/1,000 Bursts 292/Death. 584/Gp on Deaths. 98/Chaos. 392/Gp on Chaos. 16/Water. 64/Gp on Waters. 1040 Coins/Burst. 1,040,000/1000 Bursts 1,040,000/220 Crimsons 4727 Coins per Crimsons at Rock lobsters. 36,514 Crimson charms for 99. 172,601,678 Coins for bursting ===== FINISHING ===== 24,386,868 Coins total for Secondary ingredience 46,358,491 Coins total for Shards 172,601,678 Coins for Burst Rock lobsters. 243,347,037 Coins total if you burst Rock lobsters. 70,745,359 Coins total if you kill Waterfiends/Slayer. (Assuming you don't make any money from either.)(Although you will. ;) )[/hide]

Nobody says it in real life, it's a world that lives without a pronuciation.

Just make sure you buy Snapdragons. They are that important.

Lol, try raising summoning. It's not as hard as people think it is.

Kay =)))

Yesssss I finally got a new disk! No more going offline!

I can promise you don't have enough money to train farming at even a fast pace, let alone the fastest. Heres a good plan. Herb: All, snapdragons Trees: Yews, they're good Fruit trees: Palm, they give ridiculous xp and they're really cheap compared to Magics. Calquat: Yes The trees and fruit trees should cost 100m+, but the herbs should cover alot of it.

I would have to go against that, but nothing is proven yet.

Oh. Just find the xp/hour and divide it by the xp you have left. I think the xp/hour from teaks are 70k and yews are 35k... a Huge estimate though. I forget. :oops:

Place: Karamja Tree: Teaks, or yews if you are lazy Time: Anytime your on? Seriously, the less crowded it is, the better. But... If there are 1000+ in every world, go to a crowded world. If there is like 500-, go to an average world. 1000-500.. eh, just use your best judgement.