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Well I'm not sure whether or not titan is useful for every boss, even with divine. Maybe after yak dies.

Personally, PvP sometimes, and soloing bandos/sara. Maybe TDs too.

Thats what I was wondering too, since maul would just be used tds/gwd w/ team (Which I rarely do) and maybe PvP

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That is so dumb. The ingredients cost less, but you get less selling. You really should factor Gp/Xp before you give advice. To do that, you need to factor in both SELL and INGREDIENT price. Super defense may be good ATM, and I havn't checked, but just factoring in ingredient cost for a tradeable potion is the WRONG way to figure out gp/xp.

Wait you always have to be on the internet to play SC2? Damn, I play most single player games when im offline...

EDIT: Wasn't lagging, but double posted. WTH?

I know of quite a few people who would be willing to argue that the time saved is hardly negligable, whilst the cost of the prayer potions saved is negligible.

That was sarcasm....correct? Let me rephrase that for you, since you misunderstood me: RS Wiki has a use, at times. However, claiming that RS wiki has ONLY correct information is idiotic and illogical. My appolgies, I quoted the wrong part, I meant to quote this.. Oh lol, ye. It was in response to the person who said that RS wiki was never wrong, there were only "typos" if any mistake was there, since people always edited it to make it 100% correct!

That part was edited out of the rules months ago due to the incorrect interpretation of it. You may PM me if you have any further questions regarding the rules :) Nah, that answers it. Thanks.

Slayer or dungeneering, with DG always winning with a fun(Skype and good) or amazing (epic fast) team.

NO ONE SAID FALSE UNTIL PROVEN. That is where your logic is flawed. Rather, I said at least twice that you can't CLAIM something is true without being willing to prove, or give evidence, to support your claim. I've tested stab at Tds, and I can give evidence that they are weak to stab. But if I wanted to make that claim and have people believe me, I need to be willing to back it up. You are assuming the inverse, which is a logical fallicy. Just because something isn't verifiable until proven doesn't mean it ISN'T true because it hasn't been proven.

"Minor flaming" is allowed as per the rules, I could of sworn. I even copied and pasted that rule in a PM to a moderator before. This would include minor insults (Which are not the same as personal attacks, anyone who thinks so...)

No clue what that meant, but if you think someone requiring proof for your claims is "being an ass" then I think there are quite a few asses on TIF. BTW, there is evidence that TD's are weak to stab, I can vouch for that. That wasn't my point. Rather, you have to be able to PROVE or give EVIDENCE for your claims, rather then just expect people to believe you. Also, most people here who do extensive testing do NOT consider RS wiki a reliable source.

Are you accusing me of trolling? Because I'm not trying to, I'm just curious why people who play RS like it more than other MMOs. I've just gotten RS members back myself. Fairly sure he is talking about shady.

Didn't that happen to Master_Smither? He just kept his update in, even when hourglassed. And I've been excepting divine to update for the past 2 weeks TBH.

That was sarcasm....correct? Let me rephrase that for you, since you misunderstood me: RS Wiki has a use, at times. However, claiming that RS wiki has ONLY correct information is idiotic and illogical.

Why would you do full tribrid anyway? Not only is mutlibrid easier, but its far more profit.

You, sir, are either delusional, or an idiot. If you are in school, they I'd be very surprised if your teacher allowed you to use any Wiki as a reference or a source. If you'd like to discuss the canon of the RS wiki however, please make a separate topic. This is for CR vs CLS discussion. Saying that ANYTHING is never wrong is just opening yourself up for ridicule. The KB is never wrong, after all. Jagex is the maker of the game RuneScape, they wouldn't make a mistake, or if they did they would correct it right away! I'm not discounting the utility of RS wiki, rather I'm pointing out the idiocy of claiming RS wiki as canon.

Se let me get this straight, even though there are typos, or incorrect information, and even though you have no PROOF that TDS are weak to stab, you'll believe RS wiki? And arma, burden of proof is on you, not on us. You are the one saying that they are weak. Anyone can make claims, but the person making the claims has the responsibility to prove, or at least give evidence, to back up his claims. We don't have to disprove your claims.

Because that is not only almost completely wrong, but its also a totally illogical way of looking at it. CR isn't a "Jacked up version of whip", since they use different attack styles as their main option (stab vs slash) CLS is faster then GS, and will under most circumstances, possibly all, out power and preform it. CR is almost always better then CLS, even for bosses, unless you aren't using defender (And if you aren't soloing or tanking, you should be using a defender, or at least have one with you.) Maul may not max as high as AGS can, but it will still outperform the GS for pure DPS, even including the 2 specs/minute the AGS has. If anything, the maul has more KO potential, as it more consistently hits higher then a GS will. And sir arma, I EDIT the RS wiki, partially because there are SOO many errors. (Remembers when balmung was said to have +133 str...) I also remember not even a week ago when Elysian spirit shield was said to cost 577m in the GE.

I still think shady is ONLY trying to troll, but on the off chance that he really isn't, and just got so frustrated the only retort he could think of was to call everyone who disagrees with him "Kid", I'll post this. I do believe one area in which we differ originally was the definition of "Good". That word can have SOOOO many different meanings, it really is quite a poor choice. I was using "good" to mean, in part, "fun", whilst I think it is probable that Shady meant "good" to mean "In depth, better UI, etc." If that was the case, then you were trying to argue a different point then I was, and there is little wondering why you are confused. If the only thing that makes a game "good" is the graphics, then Of COURSE WoW is better. ^ The above is obviously a kid who grinds, and has no life. [/sarcasm] Insults and minor flaming are not only allowed on TIF, but also have their place in debates, altercations, and arguments. However, if your only argument is based simply on insulting others, rather then say, saying how a persons line of logic is idiotic and wrong, then you have No argument, and in fact are liable to be labeled a troll (And rightly so) As well, it is better to be thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Comparing two fantasy MMORPG"s is not comparing apples to oranges. One is just poorly designed and the other isn't. Which begs the question why are you (And millions of others) playing RS? I refuse to repeat myself 3 times. Learn to read kid. Also, you made another stupid argument (I love debunking these). Millions of people play Maple Story as well. Millions of people eat at McDonalds. Quantity of customers =/= quality of product. So again, what's your point (hint: you have none). And so, to those people, maple story is a good game, is it not? I don't see how YOUR opinion of what makes a game good is worth any more then the millions of people who play the game because they find the game fun. The same goes for me. IMO, RS>WoW, but that could change, and I am sure that millions of people would disagree with me. I think the term we should have been using is "fun", as that is almost a purely subjective term, and since this is an objective thread (EG: Opinions) rather then a factual thread (RS>MMO's because...) it doesn't matter what ANYONE thinks makes up a good/fun game, it all comes down to what you enjoy in a game. Some enjoy skilling, others PvP, others MH'ing, others maxing, etc etc etc. Some are efficient, others don't care for that style. Some play 2 hours a week, others 2 hours a day. When it all boils down, you play because you ENJOY a game. A game may have "worse" combat, or "better" skills, but that is rather moot. What matters is what you LIKE. So I return to why I prefer RS to most other games: Goals, my friends, and not having to relearn a new game are what keep me from switching. I've tried discussion with you, but if you continue to troll, I'll just ignore you. Reasonable people can disagree on certain things, however continually being a troll simply makes you an ass.

Comparing two fantasy MMORPG"s is not comparing apples to oranges. One is just poorly designed and the other isn't. Which begs the question why are you (And millions of others) playing RS?

Well, for some of us, being efficient in a game IS fun. http://www.jagex.com/corporate/Parents_Guide/parents_guide.ws Cough