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Did you see how long it took? Or did you not use the timepiece? <_< I watched 2 films whilst selling them so I'd say about 3-4hours. Leaning more towards 4. 500k an hour is pretty bad. I almost did that when I needed one for an Onyx Ring (I), but for some reason the cost in GP was calced to be more like 15m... Isn't the sell value only 1 or 2 Tokkul each Fire Rune? I think the cost per rune in GP must have been much higher back then. Also back then, the street price was anywhere from 15m-30m (with junk). It looks to still be 10-20m. Shame that you've already crafted it into an Amulet of Fury or else you could have cleared your bank... :smile:

I don't think you can put it so simply. The actual Grand Exchange prices are really very fitting for these items' uses. No one paying millions for them is actually using them for their intended purposes... I still think that it must be peoples' ignorance of how to get them, and believing them to be discontinued. If you think about it, Mint Cakes are somewhat close to Easter Eggs or Pumpkins in that they're unique food items. Of course, when there's a Knowledge Base and sites like Tip.It there's really no excuse for being misinformed. Also, not to be nitpicky, but I find that teleporting to the Grand Exchange and then running to that Spirit Tree is likely just as fast as using the glider function of the Grand Seed Pods, and if you were farming then you wouldn't want that 5 level reduction from the instant teleport. Really, though, both of these items were meant for playing the minigame itself. You don't teleport to Mobilizing Armies for spirit trees? It may be worth pointing out that there are no quests required to use a Grand Seed Pod. If you were a lv3 skiller, for example, you wouldn't be able to do the quests to use spirit trees or gliders, so it would be the fastest way to get to the Grand Tree. Even if you are using it to farm, it's not a big deal to lose 5 levels because farming level doesn't affect much, especially if you're already planting lower-level trees like maples (the high-level ones are overpriced anyway). Oh, nah, I usually have something to check or put up at the Grand Exchange anyway, but that's a good point. If you were what, 83 Farming, you could plant a Spirit Tree at Port Sarim and use the Explorer Ring 3 to get to it, too. (No comment required here, trivial info... :P ) Doubtless a skiller wouldn't pay such a high street price for them for such small convenience. The Grand Exchange price, however, which is not what the main topic was about, is perfectly reasonable, and if skillers were able to get them for that I'm sure they would. Also, the point made earlier that players could get rid of junk easily by lending out high level equipment would not apply to skillers unless they bought Godswords etc for the sole purpose of ridding themselves of junk, which I find unlikely. I suppose they could use main accounts that they have high level equipment on to sift out the junk and sell or give themselves the Grand Seed Pods at face value, but really we're getting into a huge void of 'ifs' and small chances here. Topic: Mint Cakes and Grand Seed Pods are nearly worthless, yet people have put unreasonably high value to them, why?

I don't think you can put it so simply. The actual Grand Exchange prices are really very fitting for these items' uses. No one paying millions for them is actually using them for their intended purposes... I still think that it must be peoples' ignorance of how to get them, and believing them to be discontinued. If you think about it, Mint Cakes are somewhat close to Easter Eggs or Pumpkins in that they're unique food items. Of course, when there's a Knowledge Base and sites like Tip.It there's really no excuse for being misinformed. Also, not to be nitpicky, but I find that teleporting to the Grand Exchange and then running to that Spirit Tree is likely just as fast as using the glider function of the Grand Seed Pods, and if you were farming then you wouldn't want that 5 level reduction from the instant teleport. Really, though, both of these items were meant for playing the minigame itself.

Then I suppose it goes back to what I was saying about how merchanipulators who know that they are truly worthless are using them to trick people who are lazy, gullible, and or ignorant. I really don't know how powerful of bargaining tools they are. It's likely that only merchants with lower experience would accept them, and also difficult to say how long this vast ignorance will last. Personally, if I had the money to blow and a bunch of these items that I'd gotten myself from the minigame (as in, I didn't pay ridiculous prices for) I would try to get a Partyhat for them and cash. Although, to be a good sport, I'd tell the guy they aren't discontinued first. If I had to guess at the actual rarity of these, I'd say 1/5 of the deliveries you do for those specific people would give you a Mint Cake, 5 Grand Seed Pods, or a Half Key. However, they're all very spread out. The only one easy to find would be Penwie, the one camouflaged near the Gnome Glider at Karamja.

But... They're easy to get... If they're really that high in their street price then people would start playing the game again to get these rewards. Also, if there are so few in the game, and they're starting out so low, then it's going to take a very long time for them to rise to their street or natural price. Yup. And apparently, 2-3m each traded player-to-player with junk items. But I think you know what I mean, and just felt like being a moron. To go on your specific examples, Left Eye Patches were that much when and around when they were new. However, they can be worn, unlike Mint Cakes and Grand Seed Pods, which have limited use and are consumables. Abyssal Whips, however, don't seem like a good example. They're extremely useful, you can stand in one small general area and continually complete the task that might present you with them, and they're already at a fairly high price. To be honest, I'd already come to the conclusion that it was just some evil merchanipulators telling people they were discontinued after they'd bought them all out so that they could use them unfairly as bargaining chips to ignorant masses. But, of course, there could be a real reason, some super use that's relatively unknown, kind of like with Statius's Warhammer being used to effectively solo the Corporeal Beast, and alike had only recently been discovered. There really doesn't seem to be any items to compare to these; Both of these are consumables; Both of these are only uncommon rewards from an easy source; Both of these have limited uses (as far as I am aware)... Most other minigame rewards are either useful, untradeable, multi-use/nondegradeable/rechargeable, or are worn, and look nice, or are a combination of all of these factors like Gnome Scarves in that they are unique and rare. **Ooh, on that note, I'm surprised that Gnome Scarves are so high at the moment. They're 4-5x what they were when I played the minigame, and it looks as though they were actually 2.6m at one point. I almost wish I'd kept the 40 or 50 or so total that I got from rewards. Let's see... That would have been 30m back then and... 130m at their peak... FML.

Why do so many people consider Mint Cakes or Grand Seed Pods valuable? Neither are particularly useful, nor are they discontinued, nor are they exceptionally rare from their source. So why have they seemingly come to be used as though they were rares? As bartering items? For those unaware of how to obtain them in the first place, these two particular items are uncommon tip rewards you may receive for hard deliveries to Brambickle, Penwie, or Wingstone during the Gnome Delivery minigame. Mint Cakes are food items eaten in one bite that heal 100% of a player's running energy. However, with the rest update, other energy restoration items have been made more effective, and resting iteself doesn't take long either. Grand Seed Pods are stackable teleportation items. You receive 5 any time you get them as a reward. When you right-click them you are presented with one of two unique options: You may either use it as a signal flare, causing a gnome glider pilot to fly to your position (if you are outside, and unarmed) and pick you up, which gives you a little Farming XP, OR you may crush the pod and be teleported immediately at the cost of 5 Farming levels. The first option takes you to the top of the Grand Tree and the second to the base in front of the door. Although convenient that it should take you right to the tree, there are both tree spirits and gnome gliders in convenient to reach locations that can do the same thing for free. So, once again, WHY would someone ever value these at 3m GP street price or thereabouts?

You could choose to range them. Simply wear your Zamorak-aligned item (Unholy Book would work the best), Dragonhide top/legs (or Void), Rune Crossbow, Broad-Tipped Bolts, and go the right of the entrance to the boss chamber in the Zamorak camp. There will be several piles of rubble and other such spots on the floor that you can shoot over. As long as you pay attention you won't get hit. This is only slightly slower than melee'ing.

Thanks, although I'm hoping for a more sure answer. One question I forgot: Which world is the player-designated for Pyramid Plunder?

Does Lumberjack give any bonus when cutting vines? Does the Ardougne Cloak 3 help your chances of successfully opening urns while playing Pyramid Plunder? Does it help with doors that must be lock-picked, such as at the Chaos Druid Tower or in Yanille Dungeon?

Oh, don't worry, I am perfectly chilled. And I know your meaning. And I am perfectly aware of RuneScape being a game. It is simply that the use of 'Hitler' in a loose association to 'RuneScape' reminds me that "RuneScape has a better chance of taking over the world than Hitler did."

You can't see the images because he didn't use image tags... :unsure:

"Worse than HITLER." Oh. That reminded me of the Urban Dictionary definition which used to say something along the lines of "RuneScape has more of a chance of taking over the world than Hitler did." And as for the whole major ridicule on the internet deally... Well, look at the exact same site. 5+ pages of nothing but bad definitions for RuneScape. And as for the actual topic, yayayaya, JaGEx, good job! Even though I should add the exact same few points that several already have here. Although I do wonder how close it was... Hasn't GTA (at least 3?) been out longer than RuneScape and on consoles and PC... Yeah, it does cost more, as a one-off cost anyway, but GTA likely has more widely spread recognition outside of the 'web. And how many of the so-called majority of RuneScape so-defined as 11-13 F2P'ers do you people think actually voted? As I remember it, you actually had to sign up to vote, which turned me off of it. :thumbdown: (Not that it would have likely mattered anyway.)

6 untrimmed cooking capes, 1 trimmed cooking cape, 1 untrimmed fletching cape, a trimmed rangeing cape, a trimmed defence cape, and 2 untrimmed strength capes. Easy game tbh. Edit: Not as easy as I thought, I missed a bunch. Well, you got the emphasis at least: The capes. But I was being more sarcastic because of the large number of 'easy' 99s all in one place, with even more emphasis on the line of Cooking Capes. I don't despise people with 'easy' 99s, but I do think that it's a bit silly for them to make a spectacle out of it. They started a pride parade right after that.

Who likes counting games?

Next one should have a Nerf gun fight, since everyone loves to complain about their nerfs. ;)

whoever stole your name should be shot. No. They should be shot, frozen, have their feet burned, get their extremities cut off one by one, get hit in the balls by a speeding truck, then shot again until death. ... Even though the original owner relinquished the name in the first place... It wasn't yours anymore as soon as you pressed the submit button... :| But SmellySocks > CosmeticPigs anyday. You kinda screwed yourself over there. :(

I likely would have found it funny if I could actually UNDERSTAND the guy... :wall:

Yes...but maybe not in that order. You forgot Arposandra, the rest of the Elemental Workshop, the Penguin Motherland, and Acheron. Wow. They sure have dug themselves into a hole of high expectations. They should probably release them in order of their being revealed, though. They've been there since before the graphical update actually... :?

Nice, I bought a chest and tasset too, but I bought it yesterday so I paid 1m more each. Started investing in armadyl now though. I was going to try trading Bandos, Barrows, Mage's Book, Master Wand, etc directly for Dragon Bones but apparently a crapton of other people had the same idea on the forums. <_<

Yeh i agree MA was a total letdown. That's why I think a cooperative game between skillers and combat players would be awesome. Having to gather your own resources rather than receiving them automatically by killing creeps makes it feel a lot more like runescape to me. Then making the game require use of skills to build more powerful towers and whatnot makes it different than any other TD out there. Yeah... If you haven't played BA then at least look into the different Penance monsters. I'm simply saying that I'd rather an existing situation be converted for your TD than a new, unrelated, random area pop up somewhere (as was the exact case with Soul Wars). You could even try to create it from Stealing Creation elements, as Stealing Creation's combat-skiller theme sounds like one that would appear in your TD. If an older minigame's story was reused as a base for your new minigame then both could benefit, as the old minigame would be revitalized and perhaps undergo a graphical update, and the new minigame would already have some player familiarity with it. By the way if you couldn't tell: Support. :P

Never once did I mention Barbarian Assault, oddly enough. But I did. Maybe he just got confused. In Barbarian Assault you have Penance Runners who try to get from the back of the cave to the front. You also have the egg launchers that can be used to shoot them. Cut out all of the other stuff and you've already got one. I'm not saying that you should accept BA as one and quit pushing, simply that they could restructure BA to fit your game's needs with a new game mode without creating a new random far off island. I see people playing these on their phones or computers at school all of the time... If I'm off somehow in my understanding, don't explode.

What was your purpose? Just to have "done it"? Yeah.. boredom. Never got one before. :P Thanks for reminding me, I wanna get 82 Thieving to use that door... :P It's like less than 20 seconds to the bank from that little Chaos Druid room. I wonder how many herbs that could be in an hour...

12,668xp/hr... I [bleep] around too much. :thumbsup:

Anyone else think Death looks like a Mahjarret? Maybe it's just the fact that he's skeletal... And huge.