Seraphi

Well the situation is that I can rush it and try to get at least something done, or you can wait till tommorow. Had to go to the cinema today, so I only just started working on it.

I believe it's 500 to make something masterwork, correct? And yeah Retech, that's what I meant.

I'm not happy about it, but fine. Assuming Earth doesn't spend any more (That would be stupid when humans can't see crap in the dark. BUY SUNRODS, HEARTHFIRE, AND A BUNCH OF OTHER MISC STUFF) and he is okay with giving you money, then whatever.

Errr... I'm not sure that a masterwork scorpion chain would be readily available... I don't think so. The fact that you have a scorpion chain on the surface is fairly rare as it is. Drow forged stuff isn't exactly popular. And you guys are ignoring the misc equipment, sun rods, hearth fire, armour insulation liquid, stuff like that.

The lawnmower thing was invented by Da Vinci before electricity existed. Don't say it's ridiculous when it was actually around.

I'll go for Sweden I guess.

But not all of us are powergamers Retech :rolleyes:

Yup.

I did want to run a small session tonight, but some relatives are here to visit and I didn't manage to get it done... Sorry about that. I'll finish the other half of what I have ready tommorow.

WHAT A TWEEST. But hey, thats what happens when you invite EVERYONE to a war.

Yeah, send it back for repairs, they might give you free stuff. The towel trick is a horrible idea. Microsoft can probably tell when somebody has purposely overheated the machine, and probably wouldn't fix it for you after that, if it stopped working again.

Mmm, but it's kind of a no-win situation. If he gives away too much information, then it's no longer a secret, if he gives too little, you aren't satisfied.

Honestly Dusty, it's so simple. Ask Retech, if you want, he can confirm that it is extremely viable.

Hey, Retech, is there any way to increase your budget without gaining more land or creating trade routes? I'm kind of stuck, unable to do either of those two, and sick of my budget only being 10 million.

Nice job Retech, you did great. And yeah Dusty, I figured you'd go with the "BURY THEM WITH OUR CORPSES" footslogger style defense, and in all honesty, the Rutracido was more or less designed specifically with you in mind, to counter that :P And the dragonater has a very viable technique behind it. It's so very simple, yet nobody thought of it.

You guys didn't defend the flanks :sad: If we weren't spied on, we probably would have won... Maybe. Still, my Rutracido proved fairly effective, and so did the Derellum dragonater cannon things.

How can you hate weegee?

By the way, we are using weight calculation this time, so keep an eye on that.

SRD misses va lot of the miscellenious items.

Yeah. you get 500gp to spend on the stuff in the equipment handbook. I'm kind of busy, but I'm sure Grim could provide a link if you asked nicely.

Hunter code is DU4ZM9 I switched my armour to Rathian with guard gemmed in now.

I am going to finish this here, due to it being 6:35 in the morning, and whichever points I next make are likely to end up making me look stupid due to tiredness. That said, it was fun, and although my views haven't really changed, it was still a learning experience, so thanks for that.

Reminds me of a song. [hide]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9u5zqKvC7E[/hide] You can call life on this planet "life"? Half of us push the paper around a desk to make sure the other half can not work and watch the terrible TV and Movies. But the determination is there. At least, it's present in the people I talk to and myself. I would love nothing more than to see the race as a whole pushing boundries and getting farther into the cosmic playground. I don't want to settle with "We're never going to colonise other planets, might as well be happy with what we have". Nothing is 'That Vital'...Aside from Water, Air and Food...and we clearly have all of those things. Maybe it is the sole substance that can power some recent, important machine? Hell, the people travelling to Pandora were cryogenically frozen, so we can assume that it is at least 5 or so years away, and assuming it took several trips, between discovering the substance and going there to mine it, 15 or more years could have passed. A lot can change in 15 years, humanity could have grown to rely on it too much, just like we've done with oil right now. Reminds me of the song again... We don't trust people from the next county....We have been at war more often than not with the people in the next country over the last 200 years.... I seriously doubt an alien race setting up a tube into space would go down terribly well for any of the normal people in the world...especially when our opinion of anything remotely different is that it "Isn't really life." I agree with you here. The general public wouldn't like it at all, but I for one would like to see what they traded for such rights. If it's say, I don't know, FTL technology, then why not? If we were traded something for the rights to our water fairly, then I would not be angry. However, the rest of the world would likely not see it that way. Clear not, if it was vital we would have done what we did to the Native Americans...shot them and then educated the surviours into being civilised...not the otherway round. That didn't really seem like an option at the time, since there wasn't a large enough human presence on the planet to make war worth fighting. It would be stupid to enter a war that would kill of 90% of the humans on the planet, even if you were sure you could win, when diplomacy was an option. .... OBVIOUSLY WE WERE TRYING TO HELP THEM! The fact that they didn't want our help seems a total irrelevance! Once again, it stems down to the "How vital was unobtainium" issue. We were trying to give them a deal which would benefit us, but also benefit them. We weren't helping them out of the goodness of our hearts, but to get something in return. As a quick sidenote, we're getting rather off topic... Should we move our debate to the back room?

Indeed... Personally, I would welcome visitors with open arms, assuming they were friendly and not "Hey, we're gonna blow your world up so we can populate it instead" Although, as humanity has countless times shown with issues like racism, we don't do well accepting people who are different.

Again, fair point, but I'm only going by canon. Whether or not it is absolutely vital or just sort of "It'd be cool to have, I guess" would make our opinions wildly differ. And if aliens came to visit us, I think mankind would probably be happy about it, and try to work out an agreement which benefits both parties without harming us too much. I mean, in the movie, had the Na'Vi agreed to it, they probably would have gotten a lot more from the deal in the long run, but they insisted that natural was best in a hippyish fashion and shunned technology. They declined the offer of expansion. In short, while the navi stagnate on their rock (You could hardly call that life... ), humanity is exploring the cosmos and expanding. They had the offer, it was right there, all they needed to do was take it. Again, the thing about debating this is that we all know how badly canon can screw up (Hello Star Wars), and key pieces of information here are rather iffy. Was unobtanium really vital, for instance. And we have no idea whether the humans in the movie planned to help the Na'Vi and not just screw them over. I like to have a little faith in humanity, as much as I know not to, and think that we would have been at least relatively fair.