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well lets have a new weapon of the day hatchet an interesting choice for a close range weapon, capable of dealing fatal blows and not hard to wield. Also, many practical applications and a light weapon that could be used in close quarters.

If we would just euthanize the mentally ill like I suggest, we wouldn't have these kinds of problems. I don't mean offense towards disabled people, I really don't. I just feel that it's the right thing to do. Sometimes, with the proper treatment, the mentally ill can function as "normal" people in society. You also have to think, there are many... varieties... of mental illness, some more severe than others. You can't lump them all together in one group. To add, if we euthanized every mentally ill person we would be killing more people then we would be saving from crimes.

[hide=] [/hide] Im so glad someone corrected the first post's lack of scope On topic As said, no single person or entity is to blame for the problems in the middle east/terrorism. Some blame can be placed on england and other countries who controlled the middle east in a colony like fashion, some blame can be placed on america for a lack of empathy in dealing with the middle east/bad cold war activities in the middle east. Of course, some blame can be placed on bin laden and the muslim terrorists; we may have done some less then good things, but they pulled the proverbial trigger.

They were hardly crazy, they were breaking away from the anglican church because they felt it was corrupt. While some of the groups such as puritans were very religious, its not as if they were the crazy folk that got run out of england; they left because they thought the english church was too crazy. Whats wrong with the big bang theory?

Well first off I would suggest you consider a therapist, you dont sound like you are medically depressed but some therapy might be a good option. I dont really know what to suggest, life is of course what you make of it. Is there anything you have ever wanted to get really good at? Maybe take up some weird hobby/activity and become a master at it just for the hell of it.

Just remember that if he ever leaves any property on your yard by even an inch you should smash it to bits as payback(okay maybe thats too extreme) On topic this is quite an interesting question, I think our main problem is that we cant mind read. We might be able to see the different levels of stimuli response complexity, but we cant gather a proper reference to determine it. We know/trust that humans understand they are alive because we are, and other humans are like us. I guess we could ask the same question of someone with a mental disability; is a mentally challenged person consciously aware they are living? Where does the drop off point for consciousness occur?

my older set up that was cheaper(I fight in armadyl's eeryie) helm--zammy coif necklace--armadyl pendant body--black dhide legs--torag boot--snakeskin gloves--black vambs wep--rune cbow ammo--broad bolts shield--granite weapon and ammo is of course your choice set up I use now helm--arma necklace--fury body--zammy dhide legs--bandos tasset(one better range def then torag) boot--ranger gloves--black dhide vambs wep--obby rings(or cbow with broads) shield--granite(would be dfs if I had the money)

for the record I found the rest of your post quite good; these were just my favorite points by the way if you want to be an arse go read up on how the bible justifies slavery for your christian friends(sorry I had to mention it) 4. Being that I was raised catholic I have heard something of the standard catholic explanation of this. According to the priests I heard from, you wont go to hell if you are a good person regardless of beliefs. That sounds nice but its the second part that I find rather annoying; basically the closer to catholocism you are the better off you are when you die(according to the catholic church). So, mainstream christians all pretty much get a free pass; jews and muslims are next in line for being monotheistic(see where this is going now?). Buddhism is generally mentioned as the next best thing for being a good philosophical backing(Ive noticed that the church likes to mention buddhism as a way of saying "well your going against christianity but dont be an atheist". 5. Thanks; I never noticed this before and its a brilliant point to bring up next time I get dragged into a religious discussion

the other options would be a d scimmy defender combo Ive heard about the obby sword and obsidian necklace but Im not familiar with the specifics of using that sara sword is of course the best choice for pure strength training; whip on controlled is probably better overall

It is a tragedy of course, but like Im sure you will here this isnt really noteworthy beyond being a death. I dont want to sound mean, but generally we dont have much interest in news threads that dont have a deeper problem involved.

well he won a nobel prize so did he get any useful medical info from stabbing himself?

Lulz. nice What exactly did he learn from this?

1.infinite colors; since its subjective what divides two colors we can continually break the spectrum into halves then fourths and so on ad infinitum 2. There are different degrees of infinity; the set of all positive (whole) numbers is small then the set of all positive and negative(whole) number, but both are infinite sets.

There will always be crazy people; and there will always be freak acts of violence. Our main goal must be to spread information to prevent hate and minimize such crimes to just the genuine sociopaths.

[hide=] They might have poor arms yet, but now they have tested a successful Nuclear weapon they're only going to make bigger and more powerful weapons. Not to mention as well that as NK has no allies so they wont lose anything selling methods of production or actual Nuclear weapons onto terrorist organizations. WHY - CANT - I - BE - FUNNY. :wall: Because you generally make extremely serious and well-informed posts. But do we know for sure that NK has nukes? Or are they just saying they do? [/hide] Measurements from the test they said was a nuclear weapon showed an explosive strength that they estimate had to be a nuke. I would also be willing to say our intelligence gathering has confirmed that north korea was making nuclear weapons/has tested them. They are working on developing icbm technology that would allow them to hit japan and parts of the United States west coast.

I read the list, and I all I saw were 21st century minds bashing a 2,000 year-old book for not having 21st century facts. Great job you intelligent "freethinkers"... :wall: Don't like the science one? Inconcistencies in the Bible. A book written by men over centuries is bound to have a few inconsistencies from one writer/editor to another, isn't it? That really is a red herring though, the argument is about the existence of a God, not whether or not the bible is perfect in its details. I would also add that most of those scientific flaws are clearly metaphorical statements. One of the main ones they complain about is saying that people being gathered from the four corners of the earth means the bible says the earth is flat; I think we can all agree that four corners of the earth means from all across the world.

[hide=]well lets see lets say the distance is 120miles the first half will take an hour going 180mph it will take 20 minutes to finish the 120miles 120 miles divided by 80 minutes=3/2 miles per min=90mph going 240mph it will take 15 minutes to finish the 120 miles 120 miles divided by 75 minutes=24/15 miles per min=144/15mph=96mph going 600mph it will take 10 minutes to finish the 120 120 miles divided by 70 minutes=12/7 miles per minute=720/7=102.8(approx) going 1200 mph it will take 5 minutes to finish the 120 120/65=110.7mph[/hide] after playing with that I see the solution fastortoise came up with [hide=]since your time for an arbitrary 120 miles is at greater then 60 and 120/60=2miles per minute=120 miles per hour. For a speed less then infinity the time will be 120/(60+x) where x is a positive number leaving us with an mph of less then 120[/hide]

No, my argument ends by proving that the christian god and free will can not coexist.

If I actually have free will then god is not all powerful Care to elaborate? If I have a choice which god can not predict then he is not all powerful If god knows what I am going to choos it is not free will because god already made the decision. So either god is not all powerful and doesnt know what is about to happen, or free will is an illusion. He allowed free choice way back with Adam and Eve of which I don't believe were the first or only humans. Click on a link in my earlier post. Free will exists, and He would know what you are inclined to do. He does not dictate, in my opinion, exactly what you do when you do it. He does however know that you will do it. Get what I'm saying? I almost confused myself. If god knows what Im going to do ahead of time then the decision has already been made; to have free will independant of god he would have to be unable to know exactly what would happen(obviously im going to sleep within the next 72 hours). If all of history is already laid out by god then we arent making free decisions. No.. The decision is made by you. You have the choice to accept God or not. You have the choice to kill or not. Your choice can be affected by temptations either good or bad. So did god know the exact structure of this sentence ahead of time or not? If god knows ahead of time that I am going to kill someone then I didnt choose that since it was already destined to happen. If god doesnt know what is going to happen ahead of time then he is not all powerful.

If I actually have free will then god is not all powerful Care to elaborate? If I have a choice which god can not predict then he is not all powerful If god knows what I am going to choos it is not free will because god already made the decision. So either god is not all powerful and doesnt know what is about to happen, or free will is an illusion. He allowed free choice way back with Adam and Eve of which I don't believe were the first or only humans. Click on a link in my earlier post. Free will exists, and He would know what you are inclined to do. He does not dictate, in my opinion, exactly what you do when you do it. He does however know that you will do it. Get what I'm saying? I almost confused myself. If god knows what Im going to do ahead of time then the decision has already been made; to have free will independant of god he would have to be unable to know exactly what would happen(obviously im going to sleep within the next 72 hours). If all of history is already laid out by god then we arent making free decisions.

well lending the god sword would certainly seem to be a good option

If I actually have free will then god is not all powerful Care to elaborate? If I have a choice which god can not predict then he is not all powerful If god knows what I am going to choos it is not free will because god already made the decision. So either god is not all powerful and doesnt know what is about to happen, or free will is an illusion.

So just checking is pure essence better then water tallys? is it better to buy pure ess or to buy law tabs for crafting?

If I actually have free will then god is not all powerful

[hide=] Why did you compare atheists to scientologists? There are plenty of interesting theories on the afterlife; a few which are quite better then the christian model in my opinion. How can you consider hell to exist? Why would someone face eternal damnation for a finite amount of evil acts? Eternal suffering is a pretty big incentive not to be bad, isn't it? Just as eternal happiness is a good incentive to be a good person. [/hide] That sounds nice initially, but would you suggest we execute shoplifters? Logically extending it, your saying infinite punishment is appropriate for a finite crime. In my opinion, I seriously doubt that a one time shoplifter will be condemned to hell and suffer for eternity. In contrast, I do believe a convicted serial killer can make up for his mistakes, however large they may be, and not be condemned to hell. Here is the reasoning that leads me to believe in a God: Using science, we know of the Law of Conservation of Matter. Pretty much, something can not come from nothing, and something can not turn into nothing. Therefore, something must have come from something. If there were no superbeing of the type, where could this something we call the universe have come from? Personally, I do believe there is evil. Ever seen The Excorcist. :ohnoes: For yang there is a yin, for evil there is divinity. Either someone can be damned to hell for eternity or not, the possibility of some people being forgiven isnt what Im talking about. You either have to accept that hell is an illogical construct or admit that your god punishes people forever for an amount of crimes that were less then infinite in their scope. As to the Conservation of Matter piece a. infinite series of big bangs and big crunches b. then where did god come from? c. you cant use science to justify the existence of a being who is inherently excluded from observation. A. Infinite series of big bangs and big crunches arising from where? B. God is God. He is infinite. He has always existed. This is what makes him divine and well, God. C. Jesus was real, the son of God for Christians. What he did, had we been around back then, could be observed by modern science. [/hide] a.Infinitely regressing through time backwards forever; never being created or destroyed simply existing through an infinite amount of universes b. so the universe has to have arisen from somewhere but your god has always existed? c. so your proof of god is that 2000 years ago people believed someone was his son? For the record, yes I am using the cliched argument about who created god.