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Don't count on it, I suppose

My thoughts: Good taste of music Wish i could mine that fast You didn't now yet? Everything looks like that thanks to free trade.

1: use the bloody 184 rune ess 2: 3 maple bows when you have other bows too? 3: 34k mind runes? Maybe i don't understand the use since i'm F2p but...... Personally i'd organise my bank completely different. For starters like Tansuo suggested. Base your tabs on types of items (armour and weaps, herbs, runes, god knows what else you members use...) You have 3 types of defenders (i think i saw dragon, rune and black?) fix that I saw 12 runes of some type i'm sure you p2p have better weapons to use than a runite warhammer.... I also think i saw 25 types of weapons, necklaces, armour etc etc et. Do you really use all of that? Some of this stuff is probably noobish suggestions since i'm F2p but whatever good luck

Or, seeing as you'r probably F2p (looking at the sig) you buy a plain staff from the smuggler and use it on the rc altar. that way you can make a water staff. Other staves than plain and water can only be obtained as drop, though. Again, only counts if i'm right about you being f2p

I find lobs to be fastest, but a friend of mine who's somewhat of a Fog addict did harpooning with swody gloves and went through the xp like a madman. If you like fog too, might be worth trying that cuz every gloves doubles xp for 1k swordies

all those people around you and nobody piled you? lucky bastard:P

Jagex have clearly stated over and over again they won´t e/mail you, any messages will come to you via the website message thing. Aka it´s a phising attempt as stated above

Anyone who has a thought on my previous post at all (see below)? I think it's a relatively good compromise, I also see the limits imposed were too strict. I agree the restricted trade wasn't perfect, but that could have been fixed in a different way. Just to throw a ball here, what do you think about this: if we'd have restricted trade back, but with larger trade limits. (instead of 10k, say 50k or 100k) It would give you a bit more freedom to give gifts etc while it would still hamper companies running bots for profit big time, as their trades useually involve a disbalance of millions. The only thing I can't really think of a solution for is wildy, maybe someone has a creative idea?

Good luck, I hope you know what you'r getting yourself into though :P I'd say make sure you make money on as most of the skills as possible to afford the really slow and painful prayer. Also have fun with stuff like rc Again, best of luck

It's if you want to

Don't get your hopes up, F2p Ge looks like that all the time, on every world

I agree the restricted trade wasn't perfect, but that could have been fixed in a different way. Just to throw a ball here, what do you think about this: if we'd have restricted trade back, but with larger trade limits. (instead of 10k, say 50k or 100k) It would give you a bit more freedom to give gifts etc while it would still hamper companies running bots for profit big time, as their trades useually involve a disbalance of millions.

It would be, however we'd lose it cuz the bot companies would simply use all their bots to vote, so way to fight that. Besides that would mean Jagex admits defeat, they'r too stubborn to do that

Well, i'm F2p but read masses of guides here on Tip.it With your stats you should be able to do some good boss hunting, if you have the equipment, i suppose. Stuff like GWD, tormented demons, you guys propbably know better than me, but maybe you should check those guides here and pick one or more of those. that is ofc if you like bosskilling

[hide] Its bad because it became known that they are great effigy droppers and people are there for level-up purposes with money making intent as well. If I was a botter I would run my character at black demons to get levels/money/effigies. Bots are a problem however restricted trade does not act as a solution. Black demons will ALWAYS be botted since it drops effigies and is a good money maker good for both advancing your own character or to sell gold. They werent historically botted because they would cost money before, the change wasnt in the free trade but in the update that made them useful. Not going to deny that the vote was rigged. All im arguing for is that the effects of restricted trade are worse then free trade. Hopefully you take this response as suitable but I can explain more if I was vague or didnt really satisfy your complaint (kinda half asleep atm) Euhm you're missing the point AGAIN. You really should pay more attention before replying. I wasn't talking about main characters. But multiple idiots in dmed helms, granite body & dlegs... They all look the same and some of them in the room even have the same names with just a different number. Like mvb4200 & mvb4300 etc. These aren't main accounts playing to use the effigies. These are 'bot armies' all ran from the same pc/computer network with one purpose. Leveling up asap and gaining as much ashes and valuable stuff as possible. Every day they transfer the money (to be sold for real cash). As I said before these guys don't care about XP, but only about hard cash. And that's the big error in your thinking. Reintroduction of free trade allowed RWT'ers to setup lucrative businesses again. So plz stop pretending nothing has changed... It has! Open your eyes... You do know people were still RWT during restricted trade right? ... Your post is invalid. [/hide] Tehy did, but to a MUCH much lesser extend than is being done now

[hide] recources/armour were artificially high due to being deleted upon pvp deaths and raw gold entering the game the same way. Bots are not the major reason behind the drop, the loss of raw gold being added/items being deleted via pvp is. Besides I could call you selfish too for wanting to keep a broken system in place so you can profit off it ;) What you say is there is less gold coming in and that makes prices drop? that's economy up side down actually. I'll give an example. Before free trade there was X supply of fish by fishers/cooks and the demand by monster hunters/pvp'ers seems to have been roughly the same, resulting in stable, yet relatively high prices. Then free trade and along with it bots come. The supply of lobs increases massively, yet the demand doesn't rise as much. It probably did rise a bit from wildy, but most of those people were supposedly already on the pvp servers so the demand didn't change massively. Yes i know lobs aren't used in p2p, but the majority of people is F2p and it's very popular there, hence i picked it. Do you think that lobstr were kept artificially high cause of deaths on pvp servers? I beg to differ and think it's because of the over 100 bots fishing them on every server. The demand has dropped actually. Alternative healing methods have gotten more popular. Regardless the raw materials fell with free trade because the supply of new gold has lessened. No doubt bots do impact the market but they are not the major source of the fall. The "Summer effect" of kiddies doing gathering skills while out of school contributed to the major fall of fish prices last year which never recovered. Also fish prices are extremely tied to each other, if one falls they all do. A major update that lowered the price of one fish is the stashable area for fish in f2p on karamja. That brought the whole market down. This happened about a year ago DURING restricted trade. The whole fish market followed this trend during restricted trade because of the summer affect/bank in f2p/bots/gold supply lowered Just take my word on it that the price of one fish falling brings down the whole market (I dont really care to explain the whole economics behind it). But what had fish prices artificially high was pvp. It wasnt that they were from deaths but from raw gold. [/hide] I perfectly understand how 1 fish crashing drags the others with it. As for the alternate healing, those are mainly members stuff, so for free players lobs are still a reasonable choice. Yes Stiles brought the prices of fish down, cause players could catch more fish quicker. But it also made it extremely easy on the bots that came by after february, i'd say stiles and free trade stacked up to the large amount of bots we have there atm. By the way, how do i get this quotewall hidden? I know it's getting annoying, sorry for that

recources/armour were artificially high due to being deleted upon pvp deaths and raw gold entering the game the same way. Bots are not the major reason behind the drop, the loss of raw gold being added/items being deleted via pvp is. Besides I could call you selfish too for wanting to keep a broken system in place so you can profit off it ;) What you say is there is less gold coming in and that makes prices drop? that's economy up side down actually. I'll give an example. Before free trade there was X supply of fish by fishers/cooks and the demand by monster hunters/pvp'ers seems to have been roughly the same, resulting in stable, yet relatively high prices. Then free trade and along with it bots come. The supply of lobs increases massively, yet the demand doesn't rise as much. It probably did rise a bit from wildy, but most of those people were supposedly already on the pvp servers so the demand didn't change massively. Yes i know lobs aren't used in p2p, but the majority of people is F2p and it's very popular there, hence i picked it. Do you think that lobstr were kept artificially high cause of deaths on pvp servers? I beg to differ and think it's because of the over 100 bots fishing them on every server.

well the choice for me was simple. I don't pk and won't do it so often that i'd really miss it, but i knew the bots would return en masse, so i voted no. Now many recources have crashed in price, i could put that as an argument but well, in fact that's just selfish cuz i make less money selling it. Other spend less buying it so they'r happy. In short. To me, the bots were the main reason to vote no

Finntroll - Trollhammeren

You'r using a poisoned weapon

there's a huge number of ppl called shado or shadow i've run into over the years. a friend of mine is called shado2012, but i don't suppose you'r looking for him? If you do, he still plays. Otherwise I wouldn't know:)

at least with me, it displays all items twice, in the "top 5 lists"

Of course I understand, good luck on it

1k sapphires every 4 hours is what i received so i suppose that's the limit Maybe members have a different limit, I wouldn't knw that. Maybe someone P2P can confirm this

Might be worth noting in the Ge guide that you can only buy 1k gems every few hours