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You could still haggle, but this way it would be easier to see what people were selling/buying, pre-haggling. I like it. lpinkus

I don't really think a tv ad is needed, either. Why do you want more worlds now? So it's less busy for mining and such? I'm just curious. lpinkus

Well, just a bit more discussion never hurt anyone... I guess I could have been more clear about my definition of "useful." Let me use a similar occurence to explain how silly I think these phats are. I *often* see players, lvl 60-80 or so, wielding granite mauls in the center of plazas, in banks, just standing there doing nothing. They're not asking for buyers, they're just standing there. Now, I can only assume that these players are trying to "show off." I don't understand that. I mean, I do get it, I was once in junior high, but one obviously doesn't gain xp by standing there. I don't see wearing a phat as much different, except they cost more and they don't hit as hard as the maul :) If it's true, as you say, that most people wearing the phats did not get them from the actual drop a long way back, then I think that supports what I'm saying even more. In other words, it's not a sign of how long one has played, it's a sign of how much one has to/is willing to spend on a hat. And, although I agree with you that the players/merchants who paid millions for these rares will be upset if JAGeX suddenly gor rid of them, my question is this: were they ever worth anything in the first place? So what's the objective, fair, solution you've asked me for? I don't know, but I will post it when I think of one :) Thanks for discussing it with me. lpinkus

Yes, one's bank could always be kept cleaner, but this is a computer game, not a closet :) I agree that there should be a search option, or maybe an alphabetical listing of what's in there. lpinkus

Your points are well made, Duke, and here are my counterpoints. Looks like we agree there. If I didn't say it, I don't dislike merchanting. You may say I'm complaining, but it obviously hasn't made me quit the game. I enjoy the game thoroughly, and to be honest, I suppose merchanting phats doesn't really effect me personally at all! However, I do believe it is bad for the game in general. So, I use this forum to discuss the idea in Runescape Discussions. Fair enough? And, yes, you called it. I do, and will always, deny that accusation that I am jealous. If I were to alch a rare, one might say I'm being spiteful, but another might say I'm improving the game. The steel bars have a purpose related to raising legit RS skills. The phats do not. That's fact, not opinion. To be honest, I have not come up with a solution other than "remove them," but I don't work for JAGeX, otherwise you can bet I'd be pushing it around the table. Still, I bet they think about ideas to get rid of the phats all the time. And again, I'm not "jealous" about the money people have made. You can keep saying it if you want, but it's an unfounded accusation and it's not true. I don't aim to have more money than others, I earn money to buy items (useful items) that make the game more fun for me. Thanks for your opinions. lpinkus

1 million for extra space? Too much. Besided, it seems to get added regularly for members free of cost. By the way, check your sig. "Legends," not "ledgends." lpinkus

Well, I will say this. For a New York Italian guy who moved to New England, not being able to get good pizza makes me want to kill a level 239 :) lpinkus

Hey man. Would the stalls at this flea market cover all items, even things like tinderboxes and spades? lpinkus

Agreed! Maybe all my anti-rare posts are swaying people :) Seriously, I would looooove a POS (player owned stall), as it's been called in a previous post. Lovely little idea. lpinkus

You, sir, are an idiot. ????? On topic, this should never happen. I don't care for PKing and I avoid the wild unless necessary for quests, so it would be extremely unfair for me. People have posted that "the wildy is for PKing." I'd like to add that the non-wildy is for, um, not PKing! lpinkus

(Screams)!!! Please, JAGeX, if you saw that, don't do it! :) I think bank space will just increase as a member benefit, anyway, as someone posted earlier. Think about it-if quests and new items are constantly being added, isn't it fair to members that we get more space to keep those items? lpinkus

You'll get 57000 cooking EXP and the ability to bake cheezy pizza. And from now on please PM me for questions. Well perhaps in future you should make a clearly elaborated and thought out post. And how are we meant to have a discussion, irreverant or not, if we have to pm you first? I thought this, too, but didn't say anything :) lpinkus

Fortunately I'm typing, otherwise I'd lose my voice repeating this: I do not want a phat! If you can't take my word for that, we're no longer having an intelligent forum discussion, you're just making assumptions about me. I'm not complaining for the sake of complaining, I'm complaining because I think the merchanting of rares is unfair. Oh, by the way, I don't want a phat :) You are supporting my argument with that line of thinking. "You need no skills to get rich off of it." Exactly! One who is skilled at fighting should earn drops that are valuable. One who is skilled at herblore should earn money from selling high-level potions. One who is skilled at fletching, etc. Time should equal money. Taking advantage of this type of merchanting, I feel, is just that, taking advantage. It is taking advantage of drops that JAGeX implemented for pure fun, only to see people hording them and getting too rich too fast. They do not like it, they have said this already in their official FAQ, but I'm sure they would lose too many players by suddenly getting rid of the phats. Oh, by the way, I don't want a phat :) lpinkus

I agree with this, absolutely. This I don't agree with. Why is it unfair for someone to alch a rare? Is it fair that rich players horde rares and charge outrageous prices? They're permitted to, but it's silly. So, if I had a bunch of rares, that's exactly what I'd do, alch 'em. I feel the game is better without them, just like a way-too-rich merchant feels the game is better with them. Thanks for responding. lpinkus

If you feel that they are such a waste of money then why bother posting about the prices on them being too high. I mean your arguement doesn't make sense, you think rares are a waste of money so don't buy them but complain about them being too high for anyone to afford. Also I guarentee all of the people here complaining about them becoming untradable and such have never earned enough for one. Getting the money for a phat it's many peoples goals, so why make 1/4 of the population quit all because of some poor noobs not having the money to buy 1? It's also obvious that all of you complaining they are a waste of money wants them, why else would you sit here wasting your time complaining about the prices. My argument does make sense from a marketing standpoint. First off, and I can't reiterate this enough, I don't want a phat, or even a beret for that matter. So, don't "guarantee" that everyone here has never earned enough to buy one. Second, I can't help it if saving up for a phat is someone's goal, that's their decision. Those people are only half the problem. The other part of the problem is that the people merchanting phats either a) horded them from a long time ago, or B) are rich enough to buy one and sell it for millions more. That sort of marketing is not in the spirit of the game; check the official RS FAQ, you'll see that their take is in accord with this. The overall problem people getting rich unfairly, I believe. If a player has earned their gp selling dragon chains that they made many trips to get, that's great. That takes time, food, and skills. Now they have a lot of money so they can merchant and buy, buy and merchant, etc. But, if this same process is done by selling and buying phats, that's just silly. I'd much rather have a dragon chain than a phat makes as a "status symbol." Any clearer? lpinkus

Good topic. This is the only reason POHs sound exciting to me, so people can buy my stuff. I care not to show off furniture :) lpinkus

Since the drops are for quest, is the idea to kill this new Npc just for exp? lpinkus

What does that have to do with the discussion? Nothing. Keep your elitist p2p rhetoric for the f2p vs p2p threads... --Darg-- Wow. It was just a bit of humor, man. I made a logical post, followed by a harmless little joke. If I'm an elitist because I think runescape is an excellent game (and therefore we're lucky to play it), then, my brothers and sisters, label me an elitist! And seriously, I still think that little delay makes sense. lpinkus

I agree wholeheartedly. That way, they're still in the game for people who think they, um, "look cool," and merchants will have to market items that are actually useful. lpinkus

I don't know, I assume all those messages displayed at once would be hard to read, harder than the way they appear now. Imagine all the messages at once on world 2-there would be a solid sea of yellow :) lpinkus

I appreciate your opinion, that you found the old way fun. However, if it changed so that anyone could attack anyone, anywhere, regardless of being "set to PKer," I would be five dollars richer for the rest of my life :) lpinkus

Can you please change your signature, i find it realy phatatic, if you know how bad cancer is you wouldnt put it in that way. I agree. I posted the same thing a few days ago. I know you may be "joking," but it's really not funny for a lot of people, probably most. Sorry this is off topic. lpinkus

Agreed. JAGeX does balance this properly. And I'd love to work at a brewery over the Holidays, but not to increase my health or my combat stats :) lpinkus

You left out an important step: ACQUIRE RUNES, click, poof, level, acquire runes, click...etc. I'm not complaining that magic and other skills are hard to raise, that's the way it should be. lpinkus

I think people are just speculating with hopefullness, for this and player-owned houses :) I couldn't care less :) lpinkus