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If he wants money he should parcell the logs. Which costs 100 sticks to go in 84 sticks to pack them which costs 920 per trip, unless he earns the sticks which would waste time. A full inv of teaks is worth 4732 - 920 = 3812 A full inv of yew = 14,056 Time = Money viewtopic.php?f=103&t=762675 I never noticed a difference between teaks and yews and given his wc level he won't either. Is running to the bank quicker for parcel or a max of 4 clicks to the G.E?

Hostle 2 :lol:

I have said that before, obviously it's just another thing you missed. About the shy thing, I am in certain circumstances but there are better things to cope with that than to search out booze. It has been said by more people than me that I am an aggresive drunk. Alcohol my do that, I never said it never, I said there are other ways to do it.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe it matters what that comment is? No. I didn't say that. Go back - I think it was the last page. We were doing nothing about arguing about stupid things so I decided to bring up those relevant points because it's better to argue about that than nothing, and you pretty much said, "Nah, I'd rather argue about what we're arguing about right now (nothing) than that since it has already been brought up." Course I did. :roll: Having a rebuttal just for the sake of having a rebuttal is a lot different than having a good well-thought one. I guess you think yours are fantastic though? I have read lots of threads and I still stick by what I said. It's stupid to say that just because someone does something that has an alternative to it then it is "idiotic". Not an alternative, an unneeded addition. You never said things like "you can have fun OR drink alcohol" When the addition is unneeded and expensive then yes, I do think it is idiotic. And when asked the reasons why people drive, play video games, eat candy or any of those, you can always say that it's possible to do the same things without cars, video games, candy, etc. good comparison! :roll: I never brought up co2. And I didn't know how much, but what does that have to do with anything? Another rebuttal for the sake of a rebuttal I assume? Let me remind you. You brought up the point of cars killing the planet, I asked you how much you thought co2 was in the air, you got confused, I told you. I'm actually not going to disagree with you here. This was my whole point in the first place. You asked why people drink. I said so you can feel a little stupid. You responded with, "Well if you wanna drink then you are already stupid." Who's fault is that? Like I said I "tried". It doesn't mean I was successful. Trying is better than not trying which is what you have been doing. How many times did I say the last x number of pages was spam? Besides, I was arguing against calling something with an alternative "idiotic" which is a lot more relevant than a lot of your posts. Something with and alternative, alcohol isn't alternative :lol:

1 person acting alone will never effect the ge, it's when a clan with 30 odd members with millions effect the ge. (that was just guessing at numbers lol)

Any time :D

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If he wants money he should parcell the logs. Which costs 100 sticks to go in 84 sticks to pack them which costs 920 per trip, unless he earns the sticks which would waste time. A full inv of teaks is worth 4732 - 920 = 3812 A full inv of yew = 14,056

Wow, nice rebuttal. You asked me to define it so I did, again. I fail to see how it being an opinion is relevant. This is a debate full of opinions. That should be pretty obvious. I don't comment on it you say I am ignoring them, I comment on them and your still not happy! Not really. Like I said, every time I try to bring us back on topic a little, you avoid it such as this post right here. My post consisted of relevant points pertaining to the original discussion - your reply consists of nothing but you keep typing out rebuttals just for the sake of having rebuttals. Ok, so you want me to tell why I think people who drink are idiots so I tell you then I get told I am off topic, is that right? I didn't know what a rebuttal was, no body knows everything, I found out a rebuttal is "evidence that is presented to contradict or nullify other evidence that has been presented by an adverse party" how else do people argue or debate something. :? Because it's one of the most idiotic things I've heard on the forums. You can't blame me - after all, I'm just defending myself which is only fair. You don't read alot of threads then, I read one before that wanted us to kill a new level 1000 by ourselvs. Is it idiotic to drive a car? Is it idiotic to eat candy? Is it idiotic to ride a roller coaster? Is it idiotic to play sports? Is it idiotic to play video games? This is what we've been trying to tell you for the past 10 pages and you still don't understand! Your logic can be applied to anything under the sun! You don't "need" anything except food, water, and air, so why should something be considered idiotic if it has an alternative? Everything has an alternative. You don't understand what I am trying to say. You can do all of the things you have listed without the effect of alcohol. Maybe if you had a point for saying that I wouldn't be so bothered, but you don't. I said it cos you keep bring up the fact I called you an idiot, you bring it up, I tell up AGAIN why I say it, then you say I didn't need to say it, then you bring up the point of me calling you an idiot again. I didn't mean killing the planet literally... it's impossible to kill something that's not alive. What I meant is that it uses a lot of our planet's natural resources. And it's amazing how you think that was my actual opinion. :lol: Remember my lecture about analogies? Go back and read it again. It is not my opinion that cars are killing the planet, I'm just showing how ridiculous propaganda is. Stop shooting at your foot - you already blew it off. Jeez, and you blame me for accusing you of ignoring stuff...? You obviously do. Ok you obviously don't know how much co2 there is, it is 0.003%. I knew what you meant btw. :roll: Are you being an idiot again with this post, wait, are you drinking? That is the only reason I could think of that would make somebody post such crap. You remember saying how you were trying to bring us back on point (dispite the fact you weren't), you never even mentioned alcohol in this post. =D>

If he wants money aswell dropping logs insn't going to help him. I would say yew, people always seem to complain about them but I think there great.

Thats what I said :?

but i have lots of mills i can spend, 220 rank so far and counting so...why not have that additional one that can overtime make big diffrence? :P and i'm talking btw zerker and warrior (i), i know onyx/d stone is the balanced ones, please stay to the topic. Sorry, but since they were talking about the onyx (i) I thought I would throw that little tid bit in. You don't keep mills by wasting it on only ever so slightly better things all the time : On topic: I prefer the warrior (i) ring

It might have some facts but it's still propaganda. They can do that by specifically ignoring all the pros to alcohol and blowing all the bad things out of proportion. Yes, they might not be "lying" but they are still using a strategy to make it look a lot worse than it actually is. For example: Did you know an average of over 100 people die in car crashes per day in the US alone? Cars are expensive and kill our planet. Many criminals escape from the police all because of cars. Notice how I left out the part where it's the most convenient source of transportation available, it is extremely helpful when it comes to emergencies, and all the other good things? It's easy to turn anything into something bad. Propoganda, did I slip into a time machine! You do relise that I have agreed with you on this point, don't you? Just saying. If you still belive that cars are killing the planet, I feel sorry for you. I hope to god you answer this without looking on google (I have asked many people this, there answers are quite shocking) how much co2 do you think is in the air?

I already have defined it. The amount of alcohol doesn't really have much to do with drinking responsibly since it affects everyone differently. If someone drinks two beers and gets naked and runs around on the street, I'd consider them a less responsible drinker than someone who drank 12 and stayed relaxed the whole time. The exception would be drinking until you need to get your stomach pumped, but that isn't a specific amount of alcohol - it's different for everyone. It really just comes down to knowing your limit, which is a big part of responsible drinking. Again, your opinion. Nope, just that if you plead me to give you some information so much that you should at least have a reason for it. I gave you the information you wanted - which put the discussion back on track a little more but your responses consisted of nothing more than irrelevant flaming. I don't care if you flame me but at least complement them with some relevant points. That's all I'm saying. I'm trying to have a discussion about alcohol whereas you've given up long ago and persistently try to avoid it. Yeah, I am not talking about alcohol at all am I :roll: Yes, which makes it even more astounding that you still think anyone who drinks is an idiot. You say it can be used responsibly, but yet you think everyone who drinks is an idiot - whether they are responsible or not. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If you want to call irresponsible drinkers idiots, I have no problem with that. But I ask this again: What is so idiotic about responsible drinking? Christ, you cling to that dont you, "You called every body who drinks on idiot" I bet it is atleast once a page. I still think that cos dispite your good points you can do them without alcohol. Get over fights - no alcohol needed. Generous - no alcohol needed. Open and confident - no alcohol needed but some could use it. New idea's - no alcohol needed. Fun - no alcohol needed Ease pain - running away, the pain will still be there when you sobre up, you need to face the pain to ease it. Relaxing - no alcohol needed Improving night - alcohol helps some people. (see all that was about alcohol :thumbup: ) Which means people pay good money for it cos there either have no confidence, selfish, have low self esteem, boring or they have no better ways to relax. That is what it seems to me any way. They aren't "unlikely" though. I'm not even that big of a drinker but when I have drank, that is what happens more often than the bad things you brought up. And I only said we're in an infinite loop because you told me it was "rude" to not respond to our posts, meaning it would be considered "rude" for us not to respond back to you. It was sarcasm. I don't see how that is rude at all. It's amazing how twisted your definitions are. You think it's rude to not quote someone back, but yet you think it's respectful to say that you are an idiot if you drink. I don't think it is always rude but in mid-debate, it is. Now this debate is basically over there is no point really, if no body quotes me I won' post on here. I think it is rude to patronize people, you said you didn't want to be patronized, that only leaves the truth but it seems you cannot handle that since you keep bringing it up.

How rude of me, I must apologise. Welcome back from drowining your liver in booze. I have assumed a few things, not all. I also said that I knew/know that the tv programmes are going to make alcohol seem like the work of the devil (water boy reference ;) ) but they cannot make theat stuff up, it must happen. (I also mentioned this when I brought the point up for the 1st time) but people forget, like I have.

Depends on who you saw drinking I suppose. In my lifetime, I've only witnessed maybe about two people who can't handle alcohol. Everyone else seems very chilled and relax after a few beers. Define "responsible". A few beers is far from from what most teenagers do at weekends. If people only have a few beers there would be no problems ever, even I can drink a few and not feel it. Apparently we have been talking about totaly different things. Why did you want them so badly if you weren't even going to respond to them? So what you are saying is in order for me to pick something up I need to go in to detail that I have noticed that I have read it, if you read your post above were dark_Aura posted and what does the first sentance in the quote say? So we have been over this before. If you remember I said I agreed with somethings and not with others. Over fights - seems unlikly. generous - I can see this happening (buying a girl a drink etc). Open and confident - I think is sad (it's like being scared to be yourself). New idea's - seems unlikly. Ease pain - sad for not facing up to the problem but instead running away. Improving night - depends. The rest I have gave my thoughts on. Is it all starting to rush back now? Like I have said were going round in circles, you seem to forget you were the one who said we are in an infinite loop.

It happens, you can't be unique all the time. How many girls with tattoos have either a butterfly, fairy, rose (or other flower), tribal on there lower back, tiger, dolphin or a name? Millions do. Some people get tattoos to express themselvs not just to be unique.

Not a bit. I also read your thread and it should be called quest impossible! You expect people to kill a level 1000 by themselvs!

Given those requirments you do not have to be a master to get this hypothetical cape. High level cape, maybe. Master cape to me is some body who has done everything and maxed out everything, like I said in my last post only 204 people had done it, don't they deserve a cape? If they do then what stats is that going to have? 30 on everything?

You would more likly freeze, the temp. is space -270 degrees Celsius or -454 degrees Fahrenheit, which is a bit nippy considering absolute zero is ?273.15° Celsius or ?459.67° Fahrenheit. Nah, it being a vacuum, wouldn't the sheer pressure cause his body to like explode? Damn, I wish I could remember my science lessons. #-o If you take an example of a submarine, it has to be built to be able to cope with the immense pressure that is put on it when it is so far under water so it doesn't get crushed. So how can something that crushes like pressure make something explode? You would end up like a sausage due to the pressure crushing your bones and making you as small as possible. :lol: You would not end up in a million little frozen pieces, unless I have messed somehting up. I can't work out if there is just a constant pressure throughout the universe or if there is a centre to the vacuum, were you would have to go to experiance the pressure. Either way your dead I guess. (I might just be talking total bollocks though :XD: ) Yeah well I haven't got a clue either, so we're good ;) There is almost no pressure in space, I don't know where you people got the idea it was like the bottom of the ocean... It also depends on where in space you are talking about, because the "Dark Space" between galaxies has less than one atom per cubic meter, but the space near stars is still a vacuum, but has a lot more matter in it. Apparently were all wrong "Contrary to popular belief, a person suddenly exposed to the vacuum would not explode, freeze to death or die from boiling blood, but would take a short while to die by asphyxiation (suffocation). Air would immediately leave the lungs due to the enormous pressure gradient. Any oxygen dissolved in the blood would empty into the lungs to try to equalize the partial pressure gradient. Once the deoxygenated blood arrives at the brain, death would quickly follow" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_spac ... man_bodies

I'm sure you all agree +1 in a stat is not going to make a noticable diffrence (I have heard people say +4 is hardly noticable) so why get an onyx ring if a dragonstone ring is only -1 on all stats. Dragonstone ring 35.2k = +5 across the board (with the same excepions as the onyx) Onyx ring 2.3m = + across the board (with the stated exceptions previously explained in other posts) I know which I prefer.

Btw my name isn't spelt wrongly, if you know what I mean. Does he want to provide a source for his? Do you want to provide a source fo .... oh wait you don't have a point. Well done, for throwing more spam on the fire. =D> (didnlt need it btw) I read them a few pages ago but since my life doesn't revolve around this thread (as I have stated before) then I don't remember everything that everybody has said since of course there are 5 people quoting me constantly on this thread (which makes you comment about me quoting have an effect on others aswell). I also said on multiple occasions I understand some of the reasons. My answer to your last point is evidently ignored. No reason why I should be different from other people that do the same.

You would more likly freeze, the temp. is space -270 degrees Celsius or -454 degrees Fahrenheit, which is a bit nippy considering absolute zero is ?273.15° Celsius or ?459.67° Fahrenheit. Nah, it being a vacuum, wouldn't the sheer pressure cause his body to like explode? Damn, I wish I could remember my science lessons. #-o If you take an example of a submarine, it has to be built to be able to cope with the immense pressure that is put on it when it is so far under water so it doesn't get crushed. So how can something that crushes like pressure make something explode? You would end up like a sausage due to the pressure crushing your bones and making you as small as possible. :lol: You would not end up in a million little frozen pieces, unless I have messed somehting up. I can't work out if there is just a constant pressure throughout the universe or if there is a centre to the vacuum, were you would have to go to experiance the pressure. Either way your dead I guess. (I might just be talking total bollocks though :XD: )

Bottom right of the home page says differently.

You could make some money off cows aswell to recoup some losses (tan there hides to hard leather and sell for min on the ge)