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I guess you're right then. But what was the point of that? You said something like you could say something and I probably won't belive it so I dug into my deep well of useless knowladge and pulled that out and you were right, you didn't belive me :lol: Page 7: Over fights - seems unlikly. generous - I can see this happening (buying a girl a drink etc). Open and confident - I think is sad (it's like being scared to be yourself). New idea's - seems unlikly. Page 11: Oops, that's a lot more than two. Oh well. Ease pain - sad for not facing up to the problem but instead running away. Improving night - depends. The rest I have gave my thoughts on. No, they were the first thing that came to mind. 1.) You don't know if it makes you friendlier or not - you claimed to have never been drunk. And it might not work for everybody, but it has for a lot. I can vouch for it and I know tons of others would too. 2.) Fair enough, at least you acknowledge two good aspects, but in those quotes I have gave you way more than two. It would be very hard for me to be more friendly in RL, obviously I can be the total opposite but it isn't very often. You gave me 6, some of which I don't really agree with. Hmm... isn't it expensive at bars and clubs? You can get it for a fraction of the price at a store. Beer can get really cheap and still have high alcohol percentage, like Natural Ice. A night of drinking is much cheaper than a ticket to Disney World for a day. I don't know the last time I was in a club was 1st of november 07, my memory isn't that good lol I have never been to disney world so I don't know. No, but instead you are doing something else which is still equally stupid. Such as ... Not alot beats acting like a broken record in terms of stupidity. I already have. What's the next step? Since when!

Not that I know of.

Why waste the money, you may have 1bil but as tesco says "every little helps!" :lol:

No, I have 2 and I have proof. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostril .Really? Well, they have been listed so many times in this thread already but I will give them to you. 1.) It can make you more generous and friendly. 2.) It's a fun thing you can do without needing to be too active. Find them! I couldn't. I bet you had to think hard for them didn't you, I know cos they are poor reasons. 1) I am friendly enough, I would tell you how I can say that but I don't think the rules would allow me to. 2) doesn't count since I already said "fun and relaxing." I asked you to clarify that. You gave me your reasons of why alcohol is for idiots, and I see problems with your reasoning. You say it is stupid because you can have fun without it, the risks outweigh the good, and it cost too much. Everything falls under that category! There are millions of ways to have fun in the world, so of course there will always be alternatives. Roller coasters and cars have a high risk when you are not responsible, but that doesn't mean we should get rid of them. It's not the objects, it's the people. Some kid got his head chopped off because we walked near roller coaster tracks even though there were signs telling him not to be there. Who is to blame? The kid for going there or the roller coaster for being there? Anything can be deadly when people are involved - even sticks and stones. And people pay to have fun all the time - going to movies, amusement parks, concerts, video games, internet, etc. It's their money though, and they get to decide what is worth their money. How much does it cost to get drunk, going out to a club or something it is something like £3 a pint and it takes hardcore drinker's about 7 or 8 pints? That alone is £24, then there is shots etc so say about £30 to get hammerd? What about a sit in a pub with a few mates after work? Say £10? This happens how many times a week? Say 3 times? thats another £30 and if you get hammerd aswell thats £60. Some people do it from friday night till monday morning how much does that cost? That is alot of money. Then people go on holiday and drink there aswell even more money, they sit at home and drink there is some more money. Before you jump on the "your stereotyping" wagon again I know not ever body does this. We're both doing that. I don't ask a question then repeat the answer over and over and over again. Yeah, I know. What should we do about this?? I don't know, could always agree to disagree.

Bring a halberd and the biggest slash bonus you can.

When did I say it's wrong for you to bring it up? Ever heard of the phrase, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."? Fits perfectly here. You can say whatever you want, but don't be surprised if I disagree with it. You have 4 nostrils You know, instead of just saying my points suck with no backing, how about you show me how they suck? If you don't, it's just a cop out. Anyone can repeatedly holler "wrong! wrong! wrong!" but it takes some application to point out how it is wrong. Since you provide no backing or support, I'm just going to assume that you have none. I also like how you avoided the question. Seriously, what makes you think that you're a target of abuse? I avoided the question? What about you? I have asked you twice in the last post atleast what other good points of drinking were and you havn't told me. I never said your points were wrong I said they weren't that good. I seem to be correcting you alot lately. I told you why I think I am the target of abuse clearly you missed it, I will try and find it .... Ah, here we are "I wouldn't care if there was 1,000 of you against me, what I mean by target is a target of abuse (but that doesn't matter now cos I have insulted people right back) and because I would say something similer to some body else, I would get quoted by a few people and the other person didn't get a single quote." Happy? Except I wasn't the one complaining about how many times I had to post. :lol: I enjoy posting. I am now, well ever since a few posts ago, when I stop taking this thread seriously. If it is rude to not respond to someone, then that means we are going to have to keep responding to you since you will deem it as rude. Now we're stuck in an infinite loop. None of us will be able to stop, since it is rude to ignore people. It's funny though, because you made it seem like you wanted us to stop but now you are saying it's rude to ignore someone's post. Do you really feel this way or are you just firing blanks now? I like that infinite loop thing. Nah, I am having fun now ... carry on :lol: How do you know I am firing blanks, that is a private matter! :lol: It serves as confirmation to better understand your opinions, that way I can fight against your confirmed statements instead of merely guessing what you meant and fighting against that. Too many strawmans happen when you don't ask enough questions. Well you can't really complain when you hear something you don't like. Yeah, this tangent is completely my fault. Not yours at all. :roll: See, you cannot think of another good point of drinking! I think I have won this in a numbers game. I bet you quote that. Some logic that is. A = me getting bored, B = you getting bored. They were just worded differently. C = one of us admitting defeat, not assuming you have defeated someone. I don't assume that just because someone stops posting that I've won. I assume that from the very start. Why would I be arguing about something that I didn't think was right? We're talking about how the debate ends, you can assume you've won whether it ends or not, since there really is no official winner anyways. Nobody admits defeat, so C is out of the picture. This debate ending depends on either A or B. Here I go giving my opinion again, prepare to argue like all holy hell. That is your opinion and you already know mine. Wow, you really are paranoid. No wonder you think everyone on TIF is against you and that drinking always leads to death. didn't I admit to that :| I didn't nor do I think that the whole of TIF is after me, on this thread however I am a target cos I disagree (to a degree) with everything you have said. I never said that it ALWAYS leads to death but it MIGHT. There I go correcting you again. Yes, we are highlighting the flaws in your arguments and logic. The posts were just as much of a "waste" as the posts of you defending them. If they don't effect you then why do you keep responding? Obviously they're not a waste if you keep responding to them. "Yes, we are highlighting the flaws in your arguments and logic" in your opinion. I have already answered this, I answer back cos you are talking to me. They are a waste since what is the title of the thread? What have we been talking about? Totaly different things so infact 40 of my 41 posts are spam as are the last 3/4/5 pages of this thread.

Safe spot ftw!

Yes, I can keep bringing it up because it's what I'm arguing against. So when you bring it up it's ok but if I bring it up it's not ok? Alright, then how about you tell me what makes you this "target of abuse"? Is it because TIFers just have a natural urge to hate on people that have PER in their name, or maybe it's because we disagree with you and you keep defending your lame points vigorously so we fight back just as vigorously? The latter makes a lot more sense to me. But your points are awe inspiringly brilliant! Nah. Actually, besides fun and relaxing what are your points? You seem to be the one doing that. What I want to know is that if Dizzle is perfectly capable of not posting, what makes it impossible for you? You make it seem like we're putting a gun up to your head and forcing you to post. You can quit whenever the hell you want. It doesn't matter to me. It's just really dumb to say that we're the ones making you post 30 times, when in reality you're the one making that choice. Ditto. I find it rude for some body to quote me (the online version of talking to somebody) only for me to ignore them, I was brought up not dragged up. Yes, that's what a debate is. The whole point of it is to disagree with you, while you disagree with me, and we try to prove which one of us is right. Do you honestly expect me to suddenly agree with you just to make you happy? No. Drinking doesn't make you an idiot, and that's what I'm sticking by. I will continue bringing it up until: A) I get bored, B) you stop posting, or C) one of us admits defeat. C never happens though. No, it isn't a debate is to bring up the best points for your side of the argument not to ask questions which you know the answers to. Although cos you already seem to have ran out of pro's for drinking I will say yes. Happy, I guess not. :? Logic dictates that A leads to B which leads to C. If you get bored, you don't post, if you don't post the other person assumes they won. SIMPLES! :D I like being wound up. It helps me fight boredom. Or your saying that to try to wind me up, poor attempt. I know you didn't say that... the correct first sentence that you should have used would be "Drinking is for idiots" not "Drinking is wrong". Then when asked why, your response would have been something along the lines of, "Because it is a waste of money and there are other activities that aren't as unhealthy." Then it would be refuted with, "Runescape cost money and there are other alternatives that aren't as unhealthy, therefore you should think that Runescape is for idiots too." Either you are making a double standard or you need to come up with a new reason as to why drinking is for idiots, because your same exact reason can be applied to playing Runescape. Idiot, damn! Should have guessed! I feel my points are more than good enough, wereas yours seem to be fun and relaxing. I have asked for more but I hanv't read any yet, I am always ready to shoot more good points down. All of the posts on the last 3 or 4 pages seems to be (in your opinions) high lighting my flaws, either as a person or in my arguments (neither effect me btw. Which basically means all of your previous posts that have not been about the good points of alcohol have been wasted, well done =D> ) I am enjoying this thread more and more now, I should have done this from the start, MUCH more fun. :twss: Thanks for the thread! Really, no sarcasm.

I disagree. And also, it's very possible to excavate the spots without having to teleport out and go back, and even as it stands, if you had to do that it would still be easy to get back within 2 minutes and excavate another world. It's great money. If I make it any easier you'll be looking at 1m profit an hour garanteed and that is was overpowered. True, but hypotheticaly speaking say you and me both have 99 I go into the KQ lair do my thing and tele out or world hop then you come along 2 mins later and it's gone what do you do? Sit around and wait in the KQ lair? It's not really an option. Come back every 5 mins? You don't know when that was used, do you? Or is it like farming were every person can see there own "stuff" so this problem wouldn't exsist but what about the spots were there is more than 1? Is that so you can level quicker? With mining this isn't really a problem cos I am pretty sure runite doesn't take any were near an hour to come back (although I might be wrong about this) I don't mean to pour water on your idea, I just want to make sure you have thought of everything :D I am not sure wether I am a fan or not :lol: Sorry. :) Well I have two points for you: Runite is worth 15k a rock. The Kalphite Queen SES can fetch you over a million in one rock, but more on average you'll probably get 100k gp per rock sample. And my second point is that if the guide in it's entirety is so detailed and thought out, don't you think I thought of the most profitable SES above most everything else in the guide? =-p I balanced things out. As I said, there is a way to not have to teleport out of the lair to be able to log out and log back in to another world, I just don't want to really give out all the secrets because then there's nothing left to be discovered. I made the guide like it was a real skill. Like you could go out and do it and figure out the best methods for yourself. I gave you the map, now you have to decipher it. Just trust me. If I tweaked anything more in favor of making the SES spots easier, you'd have a completely unbalanced and overpowered money maker, and that is not what I was aiming for with this. :| Fair enough but it is easy to over look things. Good luck though!

Just because I asked for your opinion doesn't mean I'm not allowed to disagree with it. Didn't we go over this many times? You keep bringing it up. I think I should save it somewere so I can just C.A.P it cos we seem to go over it enough times. (C.A.P - copy and paste) Here my point is that you're playing the victim when the only difference between the two opposing sides are that you are outnumbered and don't have logically sound arguments on your side, so to combat this you pretend like we're attacking you when really all we are doing is defending the notion that drinking =/= idiocy. I wouldn't care if there was 1,000 of you against me, what I mean by target is a target of abuse (but that doesn't matter now cos I have insulted people right back) and because I would say something similer to some body else, I would get quoted by a few people and the other person didn't get a single quote. I don't care if you post or not. I'm just saying that you can't bring up Dizzle because the situations are different. The reason why we weren't debating with Dizzle for 30 posts was because he chose not to make 30 posts, whereas you have. How could I make 30 posts without other people? The answer is you can't. What is the old saying? It takes two to tango. So even though some people can drink it responsibly (no real negative consequences) they are still idiots? If I answer this are you going to use it against me another 10 or so times? If you do I refuse to answer, wierdly that means you know answer ;) I'm not twisting the words. It's called an analogy. Look here: Person A: Homosexuality is wrong! Person B: Why? Person A: Because it goes against the Bible. Person B: Working on the sabbath is wrong too then. Person A: You think working on the sabbath is wrong? You're an idiot! Person B: No, I'm just saying that by your own criteria (if it is against the Bible then it is wrong) you should think that working on the sabbath is wrong as well. I don't personally think it is wrong. I'm just saying that if you think homosexuality is wrong then you should also think that working on the sabbath is wrong, but you obviously don't so you are just making double standards. Person A: Stop twisting words and attacking me! Yes, they are similer ..... :roll: See now I am winding you up, fun, isn't it? Ok let me translate that to our debate Person A: Drinking is wrong! (btw, I never said that!) Person B: Why? Person A: Because it means your an idiot. Person B: Playing runescape is wrong too then. (I assume that's right ....) Person A: You think playing runescape is wrong? You're an idiot! Person B: No, I'm just saying that by your own criteria (if it makes you an idiot then it is wrong) you should think that playing runescape is wrong as well. I don't personally think it is wrong. I'm just saying that if you think that drinking is wrong then you should also think that playing runescape is wrong, but you obviously don't so you are just making double standards. Person A: Stop twisting words and attacking me! Yes, drinking and playing runescape are both as bad as each other, I shall quit right now! :roll:

I had the same feeling of giving up 3 or 4 times earlier than you did since I am defending myself from 3 or 4 people. I have better things to do than drink that :

I disagree. And also, it's very possible to excavate the spots without having to teleport out and go back, and even as it stands, if you had to do that it would still be easy to get back within 2 minutes and excavate another world. It's great money. If I make it any easier you'll be looking at 1m profit an hour garanteed and that is was overpowered. True, but hypotheticaly speaking say you and me both have 99 I go into the KQ lair do my thing and tele out or world hop then you come along 2 mins later and it's gone what do you do? Sit around and wait in the KQ lair? It's not really an option. Come back every 5 mins? You don't know when that was used, do you? Or is it like farming were every person can see there own "stuff" so this problem wouldn't exsist but what about the spots were there is more than 1? Is that so you can level quicker? With mining this isn't really a problem cos I am pretty sure runite doesn't take any were near an hour to come back (although I might be wrong about this) I don't mean to pour water on your idea, I just want to make sure you have thought of everything :D I am not sure wether I am a fan or not :lol: Sorry. :)

Yeah, you made that pretty clear when you labeled us all "idiots". You asked me to, didn't you? :| Why, yes, yes you did. It is on page 12. The absolute beauty of this is the post right underneath it, it proves my point that I am a target oh so well cos how many times has he been quoted? Nick_6464, you are a legend! :thumbsup: Who wants a bet that gets turned around on me? Something like "he wasn't being serious". You are constantly quoting people too. To keep things in context and twice to prove a point. Speaking of points, what was yours, in this instance? You chose to make 30 posts. Dizzle did not. Stop quoting me and I will gladly stop posting. This is what I don't get. You keep claiming that you acknowledge alcohol can be okay, but yet you still think people who drink are idiots? I said people can drink it responsibly, I didn't say it was ok. That's a misunderstanding of the point. He wasn't calling RSers addicts - he was saying that by your logic you should feel the same about RSers as you feel about drinkers, since they both spend time and money doing an unhealthy activity when there are many other alternatives they could be doing instead. Twisting the words to make them fit in an argument to use against me. Nicely done, I never saw it coming. Shame on me! #-o

You seem to not realise why. It's because every post you make is several paragraphs and, for the most part, makes you look less smart than you probably are. So it's easy for us to pick holes in because you make so many stupid points, which we can't help but comment on because you're so frustratingly ignorant, so you defend yourself with a few more paragraphs for us to respond to. Don't care. :D how's that for ignorant! You've made it clear you think we're wrong too. By the same logic, you're forcing your opinions on us. And we're not trying to make you drink - that's your personal decision which you have a very good reason for. We're just trying to make you understand that the majority of us drink responsibly. You just haven't realised this because in your area they're probably drinking responsibly inside a house whereas you go outdoors and see people falling over and vomiting. I don't think you are wrong. I want you to try something for me, press "ctrl, f" and type in understand and find out how many times I have I understand, please. "Fact is a universal truth" is the bit about your post that pissed me off most actually. What the guy you quoted said was this: -YOU, Perfetc, are a more aggressive drunk. This is a fact. -HE, Ss_J9_Goten, is a happier drunk. This is also a fact. You managed to take it completely out of context. Both the above statements are facts. For example, it is a fact that I am white. It is a fact that my friend is black. It is a fact that another friend is Chinese. What you said was equivalent to someone saying "all humans are white." Do you see what I'm getting at? I know what he meant, you don't understand what I mean. I meant universally, he meant individually. But not all of us can relax as easily. So there is a need for it. People have stressful situations such as work or education to cope with so it's nice to just let yourself go and relax a bit without having to worry about deadlines or whatever. Exercise and meditation can release dopamine which makes you feel good so doing these can have the same effect as alcohol. Cocaine and amphetamines also do it, if you want to try them aswell. Have a read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine read parts: 3.5.1 and 3.5.2 ;) Your experiences of the bad side of drinking look like they have lead you to believe that there is only a bad side. Actually you said so before, "there is no other side." I do understand why you'd be against drinking but if you opened your mind a bit you might see why others do enjoy it. Read after I said "there is no other side." Not the times it has been quoted. "Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it is wrong" - so, just because you haven't desired the feeling of being drunk doesn't mean it is wrong to desire it. The fact of the matter is that your supposed "facts" haven't been sourced, other than one exception which didn't help your argument as it said that alcohol does not kill brain cells. Did i say it was wrong to disire it? Look up the facts I have given then cos I know there true so I don't have to learn them again, if you don't want to look them up fine but don't say I never souced them cos I cba wasting my time and data allowance backing up my arguments when you have the same information at your finger tips. We know, but you've exaggerated it a bit. A lot actually. What about the person who said 95% of the world isn't responsable? He was making an assumption to turn the situation around so you could see it from a different perspective. He did not call you an addict. He said you might be addicted for all he knows. He also did not say you should be looked down upon, he asked whether it was right to look down on you for 'wasting' money in the same manner that you look down on us for 'wasting' our money. "You've even paid for members, I note; should you be looked down upon because I can't understand why you'd want to waste your money on that game? Hell, you might even be addicted to it for all I know" His words not mine look them up! I think where he said "so does playing RuneScape" he was referring to the long-term implications such as obesity and insomnia. I am far from fat, I am under weight. I sleep less than 8 hours a night out of choice. Any more? And in case you didn't read the first few sentences of this post, go read them now before you go quote like an [wagon]. A donkey can quote? Cretin :roll: To make it super easy for you I have underlined my bits, enjoy and be sure to quote me some more .... ah, who am I kidding, of course you will. You love it! I love sarcasm just as much! :D

range attack - unholy book range defence - full crystal shield (need to pay to be recharged) or D.F.S (doesn't need recharging, unless you use its spec, then you need to attack a dragon with it equiped) :thumbsup:

LMFAO! :lol: It is true, no matter what I say I am wrong in your opinion. I have my own point of view and I am wrong, I share your point of view I am wrong, I say I don't care and I am wrong. :lol: I have defended my points of view for over 30 posts! You seem to not relise that. I figure after being resonable for over 30 posts and taking alot of flack for it, I am going to take some advice that some body posted to me on this very thread, offence is the best defence. So here goes :D By telling me how you THINK I am wrong (your words not mine) you are forcing them on me, In the beginning it was a debate but the more it goes on the more your trying to get me to be like you, which I can't do ... unless of course I resort to drink copious amounts of alcohol. your calling me dense yet you don't know what a fact is. Fact is a universal truth, if very single person who drunk alcohol had "gay old time" then it would be fact but that isn't the case. The fact is people have differing reactions to it, some do have a "gay old time", some are like me, some even go really mellow. get it now? If people could have fun and relax there would be no need for it, the same goes for smoking. I am skeptical, why? All I have experianced is the bad side but if people say that then thats up to them. "No, what we are trying to do is point out where you are wrong - you present half baked arguments with little factual basis, and pass them off as ultimate truth." copy and paste ftw! yeah you said that in your last go at me aswell. Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it is wrong, I could list about 50 things you wouldn't know does that mean there wrong aswell? If so how do you learn anything? Or don't you learn anything except through experiance? There is a differance between an accident when your sobre and an accident when yor drunk.(I don't think I need to say more than that on that point, its pretty obvious tbh) I LOVE this paragraph, it starts out making assumptions about me then goes to comparing alcohol to runescape and carries on to say I should be looked down upon and follows that up with I am an addict! :lol: Its so awesome that amount of stupidity can be cramped into a single post!! While playing runescape I have never been in a fight, thrown up, danced like a tool, fell over, talked bollocks or anything else that you do when your drunk (stereotypicaly of course). You do relise you have just insulted most of the people in this form by saying members should be looked down upon. =D> I am far from addicted to it (I know I can prove this but) I played every saturday for 5 hours then quit for about 4 years I recently came back and I am allowed to play 6 hours a day (due to me being on mobile internet) atm I have over 30 hours saved up and last month I never used over 40 hours mainly cos it gets a bit boring. just look at my stats in my sig do they look impressive to you? NOPE! I don't model myself after a drug addict, I was like this way before I even watched house for the first time. You had the nerve to call me dense after typing out that paragraph! =D> I bet after turning the insults table around some body will report me for it :roll: To the person who posted above me I am the one who gets violent and aggresive, I unfortunatly take after my dad (who I wish would die soon, I might get something useful from him then!)

If you want to farm aswell as fish it's wither lobbys, swordies or sharks. So Id say lobbys till sharks. If you decide not to bother with farming then heavy rod since your not botherd about money.

He is weak to Air Spells though. Air and Earth spells :thumbup: The quest guide says it is air. I whipped him (with crap armour such as a d square) so with full torag and a whip and either a defender or d square/obby shield you should own him easily.

I havn't read all all the posts so I am sorry if these questions has been asked before. With the ses section why have you chosen to put 1 spot in some of the most dangerous places in runescape (such as the KQ lair) but in places were danger isn't an issue you have put about 7. I think I understand why there are so many easy ones, to cope with people getting the easy quick levels but if you have the KQ standing over you the last thing you want is to be stood round waiting for it to "spawn" again. Especially since the they take an hour to spawn and there is a chance that you will get nothing. Do you expect people to run in excavate it then run out? I bet no body will bother with that spot or the KBD spot. Why are you putting such high spawn times on them? To persuade them use these more dangerous spots. Wouldn't it be better to make it a bit more even? To persuade them even more to use them.

SNAP! :lol:

...is in reply to... And you don't seem to have a problem with it. Apologies if I read incorrectly, but what? I'm pretty sure plugpoint already said this, but I'll reiterate. Riku and dizzle (I think those are the two users you quoted) weren't being asshats (well, dizzle was but I don't think he pursued it too much). Riku made a legitimate point. All you are doing is throwing out half baked facts as if they are the ultimate truths. Oh, and when I said alcohol was fun and relaxing, that IS fact. The FACT is that when I drank, I had fun and was very relaxed. Just like it is a fact that when you drank you became violent and aggressive. The two aren't mutually exclusive, and acting like your experiences are the only valid ones makes you an asshat. A closing thought; you have proven to yourself that alcohol can be drunk in moderation (you've never been smashed - only tipsy). Why are you acting as if everyone but yourself is too irresponsible to handle alcohol? Oh, and House is a drug addict, by the way ;) In short, sthu. In long, shut the hell up. :D Lets me wrap this up. The fact is I don't care, I don't care about you or any body else in this forum, I don't care if you drink till you need your stomach pumped or you stop at 1 pint but most of all I don't care what you think of me. I don't think my views are the only ones that count but all of you obviously do since your so eager to force your opinions on me which IS what your doing by constantly quoting me. "dizzle (I think those are the two users you quoted) weren't being asshats (well, dizzle was but I don't think he pursued it too much)" cos no body was badgering him for more than 30 posts! I could have made that same argument and the same thing would have happend to me as what has happend cos I put it a different way or whatever. I know people can handle alcohol but most they choose not to. As far as I am concerned fact means true in every case no matter what, like it is a fact there is never 24 hours in a day! To say "when I said alcohol was fun and relaxing, that IS fact" Is stupid, since you go on to say "like it is a fact that when you drank you became violent and aggressive" God this argument is so boring, I keep saying the same thing yet no body actually listens, they just pick out the bits were I mention the bad side of alcohol and use them against me ... dispite me saying many, MANY times I understand some people can use alcohol responsibly, people use it to relax and have fun etc etc etc. I have watched season 1-4 of house over 5 times, I know he is a drug addict. -.- To clarify. I understand why some people drink alcohol and some people can drink it responsibly, although most choose not to. Personaly, I think it's a waste of money and a little sad that you can't have fun without alcohol. There is also no getting away from the fact that increases your chances of being hurt. If you think them risks are worth it to have fun and/or relax by all means drink till you drop but I won't be joining you.

Thats an odd thing to say since bandos is 30 mil (ish) and dragon is 25 mil (ish) bandos is still worth spending the money, i use my drag for stuff like mini games and collecting stuff from low lvl mobs, bandos for slayer always I wasn't debating which is better, I was saying out of the two bandos is more of a wealth status due to it being more expensive. Please don't turn this into another Bandos Vs Dragon topic. -.- . The OP got the majority to say that he/she should use Bandos. Now its up to him/her to use it or not. "I wasn't debating which is better", it says it just above your post in the quote. I was commenting on how it is odd to say its more of a wealth status when it is cheaper than bandos! I wasn't saying dragon was better or worse.

yeah, I relised that steven didn't write it himself after I posted that I just couldn't be botherd correcting it. As for the post above yours I am not even going to bother reading all of it cos to be honest I am so bored of this thread, it is as mind numbing as alcohol. I have said the same things as other people have just in a more harsh (and sometimes confusing way) but I become the target for some reason I get treated differently, oh well. I have even posted the same things more than twice so I think I am just going round in circles. The bit of the post I did read was commenting on how I put "fun and relaxing", I did this cos it IS an opinion, I may have not been drunk but I have been tipsy more than once and I got very angry and abusive, which I don't find fun and neither did the people I took it out on. I guess I take after my dad. If I had been raised in a different enviroment I might be like you all but if I am honest I prefer not to be like you, mainly cos I love dvd's and tattoo's so if I drunk I would have no money for them :D

Dispite you skipping here is a link for future reference. http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?p ... ragons.htm

Thats an odd thing to say since bandos is 30 mil (ish) and dragon is 25 mil (ish) bandos is still worth spending the money, i use my drag for stuff like mini games and collecting stuff from low lvl mobs, bandos for slayer always I wasn't debating which is better, I was saying out of the two bandos is more of a wealth status due to it being more expensive.