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4=3.999999999999999(9's forever) therefore 4=2+2=3.9999999999999999(9's forever) Are you saying the level 3's hits would be reducing the level 138' combat stats? No... let me educate you. Contradicting you is something called 'logical neccessity'. 1+1=2. It is logically neccessary that 1+1=2 because 1 and 2 have positions as cardinal numbers a single step away. A single step is one step. We can't work with these numbers unless this is true. You get my drift. In the same way, Monday and Wednesday are by definition on their respective days. There is in theory a chance that a level 3 could beat a level 138. That chance is so improbable that it becomes negligable. To all intents and purposes, a level 3 cannot defeat a level 138, but there is a minute chance of it happening. So there. Actually, there was a mathematician who thought 2+2=3.9 recurring, I cant for the life of me remember his name. Either way thanks for backing up my point that wednesday will never follow monday. Ok, find a a level 138 and make a level 3 put the 138 in full statius and see what happens, it would be like knocking down fort knocks with a tooth pic. You would also need to find out EXACTLY what each person would be wearing to fully determine what would happen. EDIT: So there. a) He though it. Doesn't make it true. B) There is as I say a tiny chance... but it's so tiny that it's effectively 0. c) Yes, that can be factored in, but it isn't logically neccessary that a level 3 can't beat a level 138. The chance is minute, I agree, but it exists. He was a mathematician and your not .... It is zero. No, it depends on what there wearing. Ok, since no body will decide who is wearing what, I will. Level 3 - nothing Level 138 - regen brace, fully charged DFS, bandos top, 3rd age legs, 3rd age full helmet, fury, bandos boots, fire cape, Onyx ring (i) and Zamorakian spear (I never knew that gave defence). I went with things that didn't degrade so the fight would go on forever but you could just go for an hour and see what happens. With all that defence and the regen brace he would never die to the level 3. OR Level 3 - full iron, iron scimmy and super poison dagger, fury and any other of the best stuff they can wear and potted to the eye balls. Level 138 - nothing Then he has a chance.

That is true, just see how many karate matches he's won ;) * 1963: 15th Airforce Judo Tournament, Fairchild Airforce Base, Spokane, Washington, March 22-23, fought as Carlos Norris: Result unknown. * 1964: Defeated unknown opponent in Salt Lake City Tournament (debut). * 1964: Defeated unknown opponent in semi-finals in Salt Lake City Tournament. * 1964: Defeated by unknown opponent in finals in Salt Lake City Tournament. * 1964: Defeated Ron Marchini in the finals at the Tak Kubota's All-Stars Tournament in Los Angeles, California by half a point. * 1965: Defeated by Tony Tulleners at Takayuki Kubota's All-Stars Tournament in Los Angeles, California. * 1965: Defeated by Tony Tulleners * 1965: Defeated by Tony Tulleners * 1965: Defeated by Joe Lewis. * 1965: Defeated Ron Marchini for the Grand Championship of the Winter Nationals in San Jose, California. * 1966: Defeated by Allen Steen at the Long Beach Tournament promoted by Ed Parker. * 1966: Won the National Winter Karate Championships in San Jose, California promoted by Jim Mather. * 1966: Defeated Skipper Mullins. * 1966: Defeated Joe Lewis in finals of the Tournament of Champions in New York City. * 1966: Won the All-Star Championship Tournament in Los Angeles, California. * 1966: Defeated Skipper Mullins. * 1967: Won American Tang Soo Do Championship in Stockton, California. * 1967: Defeated 11 opponents in elimination matches at the All-American Karate Championships in Madision Square Garden in New York City. * 1967: Defeated Hiroshi Nakamura (Japan) in semi-finals of the All-American Karate Championships in New York by points 12-1. * 1967: Defeated Joe Lewis for the Grand Championship at the All-American Karate Championships in New York. * 1967: Won the World Karate Middleweight Title in Long Beach, California * 1967: Defeated Skipper Mullins. * 1967: Defeated 11 opponents in elimination matches at the Grand Champion Internationals on August 12, 1967. * 1967: Defeated Carlos Bundo at the Grand Champion Internationals on August 12, 1967. * 1967: Defeated Joe Lewis by one point at the Grand Champion Internationals on August 12, 1967. * 1967: Won All American Karate Championships promoted by Henry Cho. * 1967: Won National Tang So Do Tournament in Silver Spring, Maryland. * 1967: Defeated by Marcos Solar at Kini K. Wang Tournament. * 1967: Defeated Skipper Mullins. * 1967: Defeated Skipper Mullins. * 1967: Defeated Joe Lewis. * 1967: Defeated Arnold Urquidez. * 1967: Defeated Victor Moore. * 1967: Defeated Steve Sanders. * 1967: Won All American Karate Championships. * 1968: Defeated Fred Wren in Dallas Tournament. (Norris' nose was broken) * 1968: Defeated Skipper Mullins in semi finals in Dallas Tournament.(Norris fought with a broken nose). * 1968: Defeated by Joe Lewis in finals of Dallas Tournament promoted by Allen Steen. (Norris fought with a broken nose). * 1968: Defeated by Jim Butin in the opening match of a tournament in Silver Springs, Maryland. * 1968: Defeated Skipper Mullins in Long Beach, California. * 1968: Won the Internationals (Dallas, Texas). * 1968: Defeated Louis Delgado. * 1968: Defeated by Louis Delgado in West Coast vs, East Coast. * 1968: Defeated Theodore Wong in Orient vs. U.S. in New York. * 1968: Defeated Louis Delgado on November 24 on points, 101 to 93, to win the World Professional Middleweight Title at the Waldorf Astoria in New York. (Norris suffered a broken jaw) * 1968: Draw with George Chalian, on Governor's Island, in New York. * 1968: Won All-American Karate Championships in New York defeating 13 opponents. * 1968: Won the National Tournament of Champions in Cleveland, Ohio. * 1969: Won The Internationals. * 1970: Won All Star Teams Championship in Long Beach, California. * 1970: Defeated unknown opponent on January 17 at the Long Beach Sports Arena for the U.S. Team Championship. Norris announced his retirement following the match. * 1972: Draw with Willie Adams-U.S. Teams Championship. Okay some of them are draws but you get my point. He is pro :P but all those jokes about Chuck Norris pwning you to death aren't all that funny. Except one I read which I lolled at :lol: There are a lot of depressed people in OT, this thread has really hit off :| I never read all that cos it would be pointless cos them names mean nothing to me, they could have been the best in the world or a bunch of people off the street, I don't know. He might be good at karate but that is crap compared to other things for example put him in pride or UFC at his prime against the people of today and see what happens, for example brock in the UFC, anderson silva, jeff monson and hundreds more. In todays world he is just a hill billy. The jokes arn't funny at all. Since were talking about killing yourself and not said hill billy then it is off topic.

No... let me educate you. Contradicting you is something called 'logical neccessity'. 1+1=2. It is logically neccessary that 1+1=2 because 1 and 2 have positions as cardinal numbers a single step away. A single step is one step. We can't work with these numbers unless this is true. You get my drift. In the same way, Monday and Wednesday are by definition on their respective days. There is in theory a chance that a level 3 could beat a level 138. That chance is so improbable that it becomes negligable. To all intents and purposes, a level 3 cannot defeat a level 138, but there is a minute chance of it happening. So there. Actually, there was a mathematician who thought 2+2=3.9 recurring, I cant for the life of me remember his name. Either way thanks for backing up my point that wednesday will never follow monday. Ok, find a a level 138 and make a level 3 put the 138 in full statius and see what happens, it would be like knocking down fort knocks with a tooth pic. You would also need to find out EXACTLY what each person would be wearing to fully determine what would happen. EDIT: So there.

Can we state who is using what :lol:

That ends that then :lol: If you read the 1 they posted in the forums most of things seem to be useless like having something to tell you how many monster you have killed or how many steps you have taken, which after 10 mins people will never use again unless there very bored.

So wasting money is better than a bit of wasted exp?

Attack is just as quick as strength cape.

And it's a waste when people max out there exp of a skill but people still do it, if it could be quicker to do it that way why not?

If you like the whip and your not sure which to get first, why not train controlled with the whip? It's the best of both world's. Probably quicker training both to 99 at a slower rate than one 99 followed by another and your still using the whip. Could save you money on food or prayer potions aswell. Just my 2p :lol:

Are you serious? The 138 isn't hitting back and you think the level 3 only has a slim chance? He can't lose, eventually he will kill him. :wall: Eventually...who knows how long it takes? Technically, the level 3 might not be able to catch up with the HP regeneration rate of the 138. Exactly. If he can hit 1 damage every 60 seconds (guess) he would keep him at about the same healthso any more than 1 hit per minute is killing him, although I can't remember who he said was wearing full statius. It might take an two or so hours to kill him...that is if the level 3 is lucky. If he's unlucky, he might never kill the level 138 at all. You have to consider super pots and poisons aswell.

My favorite kind of pain im not sure any normal person is meant to have a favorite kind of pain...are you sure you're all right in the head? Me, right in the head. :lol: Seriously though, I am a masochist : masochist = gratification gained from pain, inflicted or imposed on oneself, either as a result of one's own actions or the actions of others. :D yeah i know what a masochist is, i happen to know a few. no need to explain : lol Just incase you or any body else didn't know how wierd we are :lol:

Are you serious? The 138 isn't hitting back and you think the level 3 only has a slim chance? He can't lose, eventually he will kill him. :wall: Eventually...who knows how long it takes? Technically, the level 3 might not be able to catch up with the HP regeneration rate of the 138. Exactly. If he can hit 1 damage every 60 seconds (guess) he would keep him at about the same healthso any more than 1 hit per minute is killing him, although I can't remember who he said was wearing full statius.

My favorite kind of pain im not sure any normal person is meant to have a favorite kind of pain...are you sure you're all right in the head? Me, right in the head. :lol: Seriously though, I am a masochist : masochist = gratification gained from pain, inflicted or imposed on oneself, either as a result of one's own actions or the actions of others. :D

Are you serious? The 138 isn't hitting back and you think the level 3 only has a slim chance? He can't lose, eventually he will kill him. :wall:

My favorite kind of pain

"I can't hunt those" is a bit genral but there obviously having trouble killing some monsters you mentioned so you tell them to kill the exact same monsters? :? Abyssal demon - 85 slayer. Nechryaels - 80 slayer. Dust devils - 65 slayer. Black demons - are level 172. All of these monsters mean you have to about level 100 to start training this skill. I don't know all the best training methods for this skill but just for starting out killing ice warriors/giants is an awesome way to gain gold charms to start this skill off. There level 57 and 53 so there not exatly for level 3's but there better than level 172 :lol: Sorry if this seems a little aggressive, I don't intend it to be. :

don't know cos I always use him to bank then take a short run to al kharid (I think thats how you spell it :lol: ) tan them all, run to the g.e and sell for min - mid then home tele to start again. make a good few k an hour that way. EDIT: tan them to hard leather!

Instead of selling them to him you have to use the hides or beef on him then he banks them. I know cos it how I make money when I start a new account :D

I agree too. I don't really care WHETHER they become f2p or not, but I think they SHOULD be f2p. A subtle difference. Skillcapes should just be deleted. Never going to happen. There really just to show off you have a 99 but it is a little reward in the long run, I assume as soon as you get a cape your like :thumbsup: : \ but after the effect of the 99 has worn off and you have done the emote about 50 times your like -.- skill cape = obby cape with tinsel, yeah it looks different and has 1 or 2 extra uses but after 10 mins you wonder why you botherd to get the tinsel. I think that only applies for the people who are only playing the game for the cape. If you get the 99 cos you like the skill then the skill cape isn't so bad, but could be better to make it worth while. As far as caring goes, I don't but I feel if members can have it, why not f2p. I don't wonder why I bothered to get the tinsel. The skillcape looks sooo much better than any other cape. And I almost always use prayer for combat nowadays, so the boost is very relevant. And I only don't use the emote just because I don't use emotes in general. Every time I do use emotes, I'll hit the skillcape emote at least once. Looks are a matter of opinion, peronally my fav out of skill capes is the slayer but the obby is just as good and with the same stats. Out of all the capes I think the fire cape looks the best. I never use emotes and I don't see people use them, unless there waiting for a mini game or standing around talking to friends and even then most of them follow each other. Fire cape even has a +2 prayer bonus and there are plenty of other things to make up for the lack of 2 prayer such as the falador shield or a book. So if the capes were deleted then there wouldn't be a big loss to the game.

I agree too. I don't really care WHETHER they become f2p or not, but I think they SHOULD be f2p. A subtle difference. Skillcapes should just be deleted. Never going to happen. There really just to show off you have a 99 but it is a little reward in the long run, I assume as soon as you get a cape your like :thumbsup: : \ but after the effect of the 99 has worn off and you have done the emote about 50 times your like -.- skill cape = obby cape with tinsel, yeah it looks different and has 1 or 2 extra uses but after 10 mins you wonder why you botherd to get the tinsel. I think that only applies for the people who are only playing the game for the cape. If you get the 99 cos you like the skill then the skill cape isn't so bad, but could be better to make it worth while. As far as caring goes, I don't but I feel if members can have it, why not f2p.

So how does that work with mage robes or leather :?: It obviously doesn't have to copy thing but why change things that don't need altering? langer, stfu. Just cos you don't know basic things there is no need to find my posts and call me what ever pathetic names you can think of. It says more about you than me. You can think what you like about me but is there any need to go on other threads, go totaly off topic and throw insults at me? I don't see any other threads. Furthermore, saying stfu is a bit worse to me then saying you can't use logic because it is an acronym for a saying including a swear. Also, who can't take a joke now? As to defence...The game is based on probability. When you consider things like armour allowing you to dodge easier, the simplest answer is that you are overanalyzing it. Also, theoretically a lvl 3 COULD be a lvl 138 in full statius. In theory. Defence and armour raise the chance of you taking less or no damage from a hit, while attack raises the chance of hitting (higher chance of not hitting a 0, higher chance of hitting closer to your max) whereas str raises your max, and weapons do both. The problem is, when it is all based on probabilities, the unlikely probabilities will appear sometimes. When you calculate the odds of the thousands of hits against you, you run into unlikely results. If def didn't work, 99 def tankers wouldn't work, or be desired in clans. It's also worth noting selective memory; we aren't going to think about or make a mental note of every time your def works, you only think of the unlikely results; as those ones get your attention. That being said, sometimes I wonder....sometimes it DOES feel like 80 def could be better then 99 lol...but it's probably our imagination o.O Oh no, a swear word! :roll: What does logic have to do with some body posting totaly off topic just to insult me, further more what does logic have to do with swearing? "Don't bother with him, he doesn't have the cognitive capacity to use logic." Isn't a joke, so mind your own business. -.- A level 3 could never beat a 138, if the 138 was armed with a minimum bronze med, chain, legs and dagger. Maybe even unarmed the 138 would win.

Exactly I don't see the appeal of it. Fire cape is better and probably cheaper. Obby cape is a damn site cheaper and just as good as an untrimmed cape. Personally I think it is just a big sign that says "I have nothing better to do with my time" But it should be f2p aswell cos it is just fair.

I don't own a godsword but everything I have read says whip is the best weapon in game.

Agreed, im sick of hearing all the Chuck Norris junk tbh :| I wont be surprised when you wake up dead. How will you know I am dead for a start? How does chuck norris know were I live? Chuck norris is a soft hill billy, why else do you think he is in films? He is soft, everything is all set out so he can't get hurt etc. He should be called chick norris. (It is the best I could come up with) I love films, I have over 400 dvds but I have only seen about 30 seconds of a chuck norris film before I got so bored I turned over. It just looked like a cheap rambo rip off and considering I think rambo is crap and low budget anyway it is saying alot. But this is way off topic so M.S still is the worst way to go. :evil: I stopped reading after "rambo is crap" I know I don't care and I dare say no body else does.

surly after dieing in your sleep most people would like to die during sex. Being killed by an assassin isn't that bad and why your mate? Out of all the ways I have read to die this is the most bizzare post. What about dieing from sleep deprivation.