Mazhar

no it is not hey cool I can say stuff w/o any facts too :thumbup:

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money. Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better? I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M ... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M. um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots Hilts are about 1 in 600, others about 1 in 150... you can't "combine" the drop rates to say that the rates are 1/83. They are not 1/150 for items, they're 1/300, considering there are 3 items there is a 1/100 chance for a bandos item that is an armour, also hilts are 1/500, so in the case where you did 500 kills there would be 1 hilt and 5 armour pieces for a total of 6 drops in 500 kills for a 1/83 total rate also I was still lenient underestimating bandos' dry kill profit, There is no common drop for bandos that is under 18k alone without the bones, coins are 1/4 for 20k, meeting costs, 1/13 for 19k rune longs for 1k loss 1/13 rune plate 50k profit 116 super restores, 37k profit 1/17 nature rune, 3k loss 1/17 coal, 13k profit 1/17 rune 2h, 37k profit 1/17 snap seed, 65k profit 1/18 magic log, 8k profit 1/25 rune pick, 1k loss 1/25 adddy ore, 1k profit I'm pretty sure most of those beat TD's average dry profit even if there is any I've gotten 15 d claws and 2 bandos items over 2m yet still think Bandos is better money, so there is no bias at all for me edit: yes leonardo, I was there but forgot to take a pic of everyone potting [/hide] That's not how it works, btw. Not counting boots (I rage quit whenever I see those...), the average rate is (1/300 + 1/300 + 1/500) = .008667. That's a .87% chance of getting a drop from bandos (Chest, Hilt, or Tassys). In 500 kills, you have a 16.7% chance of getting 5 items. Chest, Tassys, and Hilt are priced about the same. Normal drops, however, make Bandos a bit better than TD's, but not by much. TD's are 4M/hour+ for me. I can't even pull that off with duo ffa bandos, and I get most the drops with my friend, but I don't have OL's, either. as you said there is a .87% cahnce for a non boots bandos drop so thats (18:08:39) <@mazhar> !calc 500x.0087 (18:08:40) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 500x.0087 = 4.35 (in 500 kills) (18:09:23) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 4.35x24m = 104,400,000 (104.40m) while at tds there is a .4% chance of claws, and in 625 kills you will get 2.5 claws (hypothetically) (18:11:59) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 34.5mx2.5 = 86,250,000 (86.25m) (18:13:47) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 1.25x4m = 5,000,000 (5m) So you don't even need bone drops to get better money at bandos duo ffa bandos isn't supposed to be better money

1. Defense, 22,817,105 2. Constitution, 22,766,937 3. Summoning, 18,034,201 4. Strength, 18,626,509 5. Attack, 16,737,721 6. Herblore, 13,567,383

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money. Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better? I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M ... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M. um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots Hilts are about 1 in 600, others about 1 in 150... you can't "combine" the drop rates to say that the rates are 1/83. They are not 1/150 for items, they're 1/300, considering there are 3 items there is a 1/100 chance for a bandos item that is an armour, also hilts are 1/500, so in the case where you did 500 kills there would be 1 hilt and 5 armour pieces for a total of 6 drops in 500 kills for a 1/83 total rate also I was still lenient underestimating bandos' dry kill profit, There is no common drop for bandos that is under 18k alone without the bones, coins are 1/4 for 20k, meeting costs, 1/13 for 19k rune longs for 1k loss 1/13 rune plate 50k profit 116 super restores, 37k profit 1/17 nature rune, 3k loss 1/17 coal, 13k profit 1/17 rune 2h, 37k profit 1/17 snap seed, 65k profit 1/18 magic log, 8k profit 1/25 rune pick, 1k loss 1/25 adddy ore, 1k profit I'm pretty sure most of those beat TD's average dry profit even if there is any I've gotten 15 d claws and 2 bandos items over 2m yet still think Bandos is better money, so there is no bias at all for me edit: yes leonardo, I was there but forgot to take a pic of everyone potting

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money. Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better? I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M ... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M. um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots

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If you took a sample size of, say, 10,000 kills I'm sure you'd have more profit from TDs than Bandos. If you were to receive a massive dry streak from Bandos, wouldn't you agree that it'd be more logical to kill TDs? 250 hours at tds:6250 kills (15:38:09) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 25x Dragon Claws: (822.50m 865m 907.50m) (Today: +13.02m [521000gp/+1.5%]) (15:38:25) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 13x Ruined Dragon Armour Slice: (49.40m 52m 54.60m) (Today: +301.6k [23200gp/+0.6%]) (15:38:57) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 52m+865m = 917,000,000 (917m) Non claws/ruins drops don't pay supplies 250 hours at Bandos: 5000 kills, its 20/hr even including the 7 minute banking, while I didn't deduct kills/hr for TDs, or it would be 22 instead of the 25 I counted (15:39:57) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 10x Bandos Hilt: (235m 247m 259m) (Today: +1.68m [168500gp/+0.7%]) (15:41:32) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 17x Bandos Tassets: (389.30m 409.70m 430.10m) (Today: +2.91m [171600gp/+0.7%]) (15:41:46) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 17x Bandos Chestplate: (389.30m 409.70m 430.10m) (Today: +2.04m [120400gp/+0.5%]) (15:42:07) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 17x Bandos Boots: (15.51m 16.33m 17m) (Today: +265.2k [15600gp/+1.7%]) (15:44:13) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ GE ]: [M] 5000x Ourg Bones: (77.50m 81.50m 85.50m) (Today: -1.39m [-278gp/-1.7%]) (15:45:34) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 16.33m+81.5m+409.7m+409.7m+247m = 1,164,230,000 (1.16b) Supplies cost like 20k/kill and you get 40k average per kill so counting only bones is an understatement

I've gotten 4 boots and 2 bcps 0 hilts/tassets in 640 kills, instead of the suggested 2 bcps/2 tassets/2 boots/1 hilt (actually logged unlike wild assumptions of people who think they did 200 when they did 20) and I still don't think my luck is terrible enough to get jealous of something as useless as bandos boots, lol

I've seen 2x d med d spear 2xaddy javs rune javs 2x dstone 30+ shards steel arrows 2x 40 laws nats deaths 2x rune sq and 9 Sara swords since my last sara hilt :thumbup:

posting them != whining if I went through all the rare GWD drops I got in teams It'd take a month to scroll down, I only post ones I get in solos

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runscape. boots same trip but I forgot the pic

**** you -.- You should go to corp, get 5 sigils in two hours or so, based off your TD luck. people with good TD luck get crappy luck at corp fact

Use the north west spot, and they can see you, take 1 step souther than usual and call familiar

1 Hand cannon will get you 5+ extra kills/hr but it costs 1m/hr with my 74 fm so I wouldn't suggest it unless you're 99 firemaking 2 If you have a thousand from getting 99 herb yes, if you have to make them just for the trips then no 3 With a gs.. darklight whip 2x uni 3x extreme sets (or 4 ovls and 2 sara brews) lantern scrolls tele 1 rest, others should be ppots 4 the north spot, look at the guide in the help forum, general guides section, to know how to lure

4/1- A very good morning :thumbsup:

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do you have windows 95 lol /notsrs

3/31- Another SAT class, did corp for a few hours before I went in the morning, nothing special, and did an arma solo trip later, no luck in that either gonna barely be on tomorrow too though so nothing much to expect

That brings us back to selling divines with 1b junk for 1.5b in coins, lets say the person selling divine sold it with strawberry seeds at 3.8k (263k seeds/1bill gp) and don't sell in GE until they reached 800 gp (210m) (which is the case in it's graph) the person who buys divine starts at 1.5b and ends with 210m and divine, so really he paid ~1.3b for his divine If you update your selling offer for strawberry seeds shortly (even 30 minutes) after an update, you'll get about 30-50% of the original value of the junk for gp - some sells for 3.8k, some sells for 3.6k, some sells for 3.4k, and so on. You'd be a fool to just hold on to your junk until it's "normal again." That's where the 30-50% came from :P camped ge for the last 5 updates don't think I was later than 5 seconds after update for any, haven't sold more than 5m worth in a single update, maybe 10m in total out of ~200

That brings us back to selling divines with 1b junk for 1.5b in coins, lets say the person selling divine sold it with strawberry seeds at 3.8k (263k seeds/1bill gp) and don't sell in GE until they reached 800 gp (210m) (which is the case in it's graph) the person who buys divine starts at 1.5b and ends with 210m and divine, so really he paid ~1.3b for his divine

1m of "Street credit" allows you to liquidate 1m of junk into 1m cash. However, that junk could slowly be sold over time for about 400-700k, depending on the junk. So 1m of "street credit" effectively is worth about 300-500k. You could put the current "true gp value" of divine down for about 800-1000m and not be too far off. no one will sell their divine with junk that won't crash to atleast 30% of its peek price, unless they're clueless You trade your divine for easters/disks/pumpkins, and sell those with junk... whatever you do, "street credit" (i.e. net street price or the difference between total street price and GE price) has a pretty stable ratio to coins. Yes and divine is around 5 eggs with a total street credit of 200m each (understatement) and people don't usually sell them with junk that goes to 40%-70% of the price of the junk during the trade, you'd have to be lucky too see eggs sold anywhere but the peek of items like.. Purple Sweets Verac's flail Strawberry seed You'd have to be really lucky to see people selling divines/eggs/disks with items like.. staff of light

1m of "Street credit" allows you to liquidate 1m of junk into 1m cash. However, that junk could slowly be sold over time for about 400-700k, depending on the junk. So 1m of "street credit" effectively is worth about 300-500k. You could put the current "true gp value" of divine down for about 800-1000m and not be too far off. no one will sell their divine with junk that won't crash to atleast 30% of its peek price, unless they're clueless, or desperate

alright but may I add divine's street is around 1.5b so the average between street and ge is around 1b, ely seems right though

Corp is 25/hr for 6 people But the non boss drops are too significant too leave out, they average out to around 300k/kill