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I'm happy with Admin or Leader at the moment but later on I think I'd rather just step down to just a member who leads in wars (doesn't set them up) so a sort of War Leader.

My money is definitely on RSD.

DG TR or TRWF?

I joined Clan Europe because of a few main reasons. 1) Gave me more fights against a wider array of clans and at more suitable times for me rather than later times. 2) Gave me a space to make a bit more of myself and get more experience in all aspects of clanning. 3) Gave me the opportunity to meet new people and make more friends. There are smaller reasons as well but those I think were the main ones. I joined TKO for more wars, experience and more friends as well.

From what I know of the clans I have been in, no one has ever left to make a clan an exact copy of the one they were in but I know a few who have left to make new clans - which 9 times out of 10 die within a few months. When it happens they usually try and steal away some of the members from the previous clan that they were friends with to get a core memberbase group. What they usually fail to realize that if they get angry and stupid over a correct decisions merely because they don't like it for whatever reason, they do NOT tend to have good leadership qualities or the patience to run a clan and get it on its feet. So merely by showing their personality when they rage quit shows they don't have the capability to lead another clan.

Spot on, agreed with all. Since they came out, I've always tried to get wars with them on. The only excuse that I saw valid was the time factor. A few leaders, quickly after the items came out, didn't want to set up wars because only those people who no-lifed would have weapons by now and wanted to wait a bit longer so there had been time gone past for everyone to have had the opportunity to get them. Which is fair enough, the other excuses as you said were pretty pants. Blocking Dungeoneering items - which are rewards for a skill - is like stopping anyone with over 90 magic from warring. Higher mage levels means that your binds hit more often and you can splash binds when tanking - which is the reward of a high mage level. Exactly the same with Dung, the weapons are high level rewards for training. So yea, I couldn't agree more. They are not limited to P2P, anyone can train the skill and they encourage the development of warring.

Ascension beat CE. The Rising vs Crimson Raiders Lietuvos Didzioji Kunigaiktyste vs Future of Old Style Black Revolution or Runite Knights of Finland vs Forsaken Kurimao Clan Reborn or Dutch Generation vs The Titans or The Blacknights The Gladiatorz vs Downfall Dragonwood vs Chivalry Legions Natural Born Killers vs Northern Gods or Crimson Knights Ascension or Clan Europe vs The Knights of Order

How many people / clans on RSOF do you think actually know about the "Clan world" that we know of? I bet maybe less than half, maybe not even that much from looking at some of the posts on there. I believe there is a bit of awareness, but not much. Is there anything that caused this? (Low amount of knowledge about the "Clan world" We know) Jagex overprotecting them limiting them to think that RSB is the edge of the clanning world. What ways could we connect the two "Clan worlds" together? (Bringing more knowledge to new clanners basically) I'd rather we didn't lol ... Is it worth the effort/time to even attempt something like the above question? No. RSB is full of inexperience and stupidity. How funny will it be to see that clan "trolling" FOOLS get smashed? Unbelievably lol.

Clan Europe vs Aggression. Considering they have been dead for 2 years or so: winner winner chicken dinner!

Clan Europe -vs- Dutch Generation We set up a war with DG and wanted to test out another one of our mage only fights again but with slightly different rules: Thursday 24th | | 6:00GMT Start, Matched Ops x2, Melee+Binds+Ranged | | Mage (Blast) only, Classic | | Center Bounds, Ring Allowed, CE Team Cape 17, NO Corrupt Dragon, North Attacks then reverse and Post Allowed. DG always gives us a good clean fight and we were looking forward to another mage only war making yet another break from standard, boring everyday wars we have. Round 1: Melee+Binds+Ranged CE Starting Ops: 63 DG Starting Ops: 63 We started off strongly with I Am Killer just out-tanking DG's first target and then from there on with a bit better tanking from our side, we were able to stay a bit ahead gaining a bit more of a lead for every kill we took down. We got 2 KO's on DG's rangers and that pretty much sealed the victory in our favour. Special thanks to Monstro, Ezze, Tiit, Bindle & Rory for stepping out - thanks guys. Well done to Bubter as well on some better leading taking on our advice. CE Ending Ops: 42 DG Starting Ops: 0 Round 2: Mage (Blast) Only CE Starting Ops: 66 DG Starting Ops: 66 Considering Holland were playing footy soon, DG kept their numbers - we appreciate you doing so. We've been experimenting with rules for mage only wars and other rules this time included DHide Top and over heads allowed. Being the lucky person I am, I got a call from Uni and was unable to prepare and get into this round so I'm going on what Dimitrix has told me ... CE had a 1 man lead until the 18-16 mark where we lost a bit of KO power so starting taking a bit of times to chose targets in order to catch them off guard and KO them getting 1 or 2 dropped quickly as a result. We apparently finished with 14 but 2 had to leave before we got a picture so I've put 12 as our official ending. CE Ending Ops: 36 DG Starting Ops: 0 Well done again CE, some good performances as usual - keep it up. Thanks once again DG for the wars, I hope the mage only round was something different a bit of fun for you guys - a clean and respectful war as always, good luck for the future! Thanks; ~H@R~

Gratz NBK, well done!

Gratz Poison, solid performance.

Was definatly quite close from start to finish. Man for man, we got outperformed since I don't think we KOed a single T0 member without prayer and rune (except Dazuz confirm?) on where as a lot of our low levels got repeatedly 1 hit. Thanks for the fight, was definitely fun binding your FI leaders ... Warriar <3:

Clan Europe -vs- Heart of Europe Previously, we had warred HoE (CSF+HP) with RKoF and won - their warlords re-approached me for a war against CE only this time and I accepted. Sunday 20th | | 6:30GMT Start, 30min CWRI, Melee | | Binds | | Ranged, No Bounds | | Turrets, Ring Allowed, CE Team Cape 17, NO Corrupt Dragon, Rush on sight and Post Allowed. We didn't know what to expect from HoE, we assumed they would pull 50-60+ and we really needed to get at least 40 to compete. CE Starting Ops: 132 HoE Starting Ops: 150 CE started very strongly - where as usually we take a few minutes to gain a bit of momentum, this time round we hit the ground running and started so strongly that we had around 4 kills before HoE had 1. We carried this momentum throughout the whole war - our numbers slightly dropped as those people who had wars at 7GMT had to leave but we had just enough KO power to maintain a solid pile. We set our kill goal of 120 and smashed it considering the time to get the kills in the first place. Well done CE, some awesome binds today - made leading so much easier, so thank you to everyone who turned up and stayed for the fight! CE Ending Kills: 127 HoE Ending Kills: 54 Thanks for the fight again HoE, it was very clean and I hope we can have more in the future. Special kudos to Kovajda for tanking us very well. Good luck in your future wars! Thanks; ~H@R~

Gratz Gladz, very nice ops - keep those up!

I HIGHLY doubt that Envy will let Killamonster fight for his team just because LND signed up first ... I'm certain that if I had signed up CE first before any other clan, other senior clans would put down the shared members anyway and they wouldn't be allowed to fight for us, simply because we always have been and always will be, second to all senior clans. Teams and Country clans won't do well here UNLESS they can muster enough members who aren't fighting for main clans and also with a BIG lot of luck on the draws.

Envy killed 11 of you with 20 people ... Very well done Envy, must have had some very good piles and some solid tanking. Gratz on your 'win' Legacy Kingdom.

Couldn't afford to stay up, had an exam next morning. Looks like we started off a bit slow, that or either CL was doing well to keep pace. Then looks like we got a bit of rhythm going. Gratz TKO, nice pull again. Got no clue where all these numbers are coming from recently.

Gratz BK, nice numbers both clans.

LOL. Gratz LND, well done.

Looks like Poison did well early on. Gratz Gladz, a solid pull it seems.

Whats involved?

Clan Europe -vs- Runite Knights of Finland Our newly appointed official Warlord, Nykimu, set up a couple of fights with RKoF. Recently we've been fighting with RKoF against various opponents but last time we fought against one another, RKoF had much improved and took us down - so we were out to settle the score! Wednesday 16th | | 6:30GMT Start, Matched Ops x2, Melee+Binds+Ranged | | Mage (Bolt) only, Classic | | Center Bounds, Ring Allowed, CE Team Cape 17, NO Corrupt Dragon, North Attacks then reverse and Post Allowed. We knew we were in for a challenge. Last time we underestimated their impressive progress and we got severely caught out - we weren't going to make the same mistake this time. Round 1: Melee+Binds+Ranged CE Starting Ops: 75 RKoF Starting Ops: 75 We pulled 30 to their 25 and cut down. Both clans had a large range unit and were able to take down each other very quickly both sides getting a few KOs. With some solid tanking early on and some good style switching from us, we were able to grab onto a two-man lead and keep it for the rest of the fight. Thanks to Lt Valdo, Mr Deur, Krist, Tappa and Chris for stepping out for this one. Sorry for the flaming from one of our members, we kicked him from the CC. CE Ending Ops: 45 RKoF Ending Ops: 0 Round 2: Mage (Bolt) Only CE Starting Ops: 48 RKoF Starting Ops: 48 Our pull unfortunately dropped by almost half and RKoF cut down from 24ish. We've had a couple of these wars before and are testing them out to see what works. There were various rules, no DHide, Shields, Overheads among a few others. It was very even at the start, a few of our members got KOed very quickly but with some superior tanking in the latter stages, we were able to take a lead. RKoF then started switching and were killing people very slowly were we kept a constant rate of taking them out. Hents survived with 200HP. CE Ending Ops: 18 RKoF Ending Ops: 0 Well done CE, a standard and stable performance today! As always its a pleasure fighting you RKoF, if you have any pictures of flaming, please send them to me and I'll deal with them. Thanks again, I look forward to more wars with and against you! Thanks; ~H@R~

I'm sure clans will keep center bounds as the norm. We might see the NW bounds being re-introduced. Since CWA Classic, before the change where half was made single (all was multi), still saw center bounds and NW bounds being used, I doubt many clans will accept wars where the whole map is allowed. Might do, I've had one or two in the past and they were quite fun - maybe CWRIs in there would make a nice change.

Clan Europe -&- Runite Knights of Finland -vs- Lietuvos Didzioji Kunigaikstyste CE and RKoF have paired up recently and beaten Heart of Europe (CSF+HP) and we wanted to test ourselves against the current "Number 1" GMT clan to see if we could fair any better as a pair: Monday 14th | | 6:00GMT Start, 2x Full Outs | | 1x Matched Ops, All Styles | | Melee+Binds | | Melee+Binds+Ranged, Classic | | Center Bounds, Ring Allowed, CE+RKOF Team Cape 7, NO Corrupt Dragon/Dungeoneering, North Attacks and Post Allowed. These wars made a change to the normal fights we have so we greatly anticipated them. Since LDK was a merge of multiple clans, it would be fairly even odds having multiple clans working together - the fact CE+RKoF were only two clans balancing out with LDK's experience of having longer to gel. Round 1: Full Out - All Styles CE+RKoF Starting Ops: 171 LDK Starting Ops: 156 Having outpulled LDK (which we were surprised at since last time LDK had pulled ~260 ops) it was a fairly secure win. LDK started off slow but when they got a bit of rhythm they kept kill for kill until our early lead pushed them past the threshold for getting anymore KOs, securing our win. CE+RKoF Ending Ops: 114 LDK Ending Ops: 0 Round 2: Full Out - Melee+Binds CE+RKoF Starting Ops: 189 LDK Starting Ops: 201 Interestingly, both clans starting ops rose for round 2. Again being a full out however this time, CE+RKoF were outnumbered by a few. We spawned North again and attacked - we kept pace with LDK and started to take the lead. LDK then KOed a few people taking the advantage. At a crucial point however when CE was down by 3, I Aztiuz I was tanking LDK when Dimitrix took the lead and KOed 4 binders putting us ahead for the final time. Our sniper unit went out and started working on LDK who unfortunately resorted to mass sniping at the 25-20 mark. We countered with the Jail Tactic and LDK gave up - we cleared the remaining people up. CE+RKoF Ending Ops: 69 LDK Ending Ops: 0 Round 3: Matched Ops - Melee+Binds+Ranged CE+RKoF Starting Ops: 126 LDK Starting Ops: 126 Trioske offered us an 3rd round when we had only agreed on two full outs but we accepted anyway. Even though we spawned North, we let LDK attack who were able to pick out and 1 bang one of our binders from our failure of a dance. LDK had a very strong pile and were able to KO most of CE's members putting us 3 people down again. Like before, we clawed it back getting neutral only to have more people get KOed and lose it again. Finally, after a bit of composure gaining, we were able to get some strong piles on some of LDKs binders, dropping them quickly putting us ahead - a lead we kept till the end. Its a shame that Eziuxxx decided to run around in single for ages once we finished (picture). CE+RKoF Ending Ops: 66 LDK Ending Ops: 0 Yet again, thank you very much for pairing with us RKoF - was a pleasure as always. Well done to all CE and RKoF members, some very good performances today! Thanks to you guys also LDK, was very challenging playing catch with advantage in most of the fights - thanks and good luck in future wars. Shame such a fun event had to be spoiled by a few people who ran to single at the ends of round 2 and 3, regardless - thanks. Thanks; ~H@R~