Retech

That your ships are weak?

We know that all these numbers are a bit low. Btw battleships and airships are equal in cost. Anyways, like my previous argument, just because it's reasonable in real life doesn't mean that it'll be good for the game. The more you make, the weaker each of them will be. Do you want to set that precedent for your nation?

You also seem to forget that I'm the Lichtens, a race with no childhood (literally, there are no children) and deaths once you are incapable to work. I still toned it down to be fair to other players. --------- Seriously, your problem is that India has little infrastructure, at least I think that was what it was said. Please tone your production rates down.

Well apparantly Archi didn't multiply my total by 365, so just roll with it. :D

Get rid of the 365

Sounds fun. :)

To Ross, my "story" is that my entire population is working, but in game mechanics, it doesn't work that way. That's why I'm limiting myself to Archi's system, even though everyone is theoretically working. It's just for the story. Anyways, my people can't survive in the desert without full body suits, or high up in the sky without a contained space with lots of humidity. ------------- To Rocco, 20 airships and 200 fixed wing aircraft? I was thinking about starting with building 15 subs a year, with my subs being cheaper since there's no life support AND the fact that I have no airships. Maybe bring that down to 10 air ships and 100 fixed wing aircraft? Also, for Archi's man-hour calculation. Instead of saying 15% is employed, then half of that is agriculture, then multiplying by 12, I am setting it as all female workers can build stuff, with male workers doing the agriculture/resource gathering/fighting. So instead of 7.5%, 10%. Total Man-hours: 60 million

I was thinking they'd be approximately the same strength as a battleship, but cheaper since I don't need to keep water out. Anyways, I'll definitely have sea-superiority as my land units (infantry) can attack sea units. Effectively, I will outnumber most people in the sea unless all infantry are defeated. Have torpedos been invented yet? :)

Real City -- Are super tyrants on the zombies' team? If they aren't, can we infect them? :P

I'm looking, but it doesn't say anything what so ever. I'll put the man-hour cost at 3 million, or 3/5ths that of a conventional battleship.

On a totally different subject, can we start Aeroiki yet? We basically have the system set.

How much would it cost for one of my subs? Keep in mind that they can be filled with water, so they don't need to keep water out.

Must be a Saturday again... <_<

Just calm down everyone. Just a game. :D

5 million man hours sounds good. How do you calculate from the total amount of working people to the total amount of man hours per year?

I dispute the accuracy of zero-point energy. To Wikipedia!

Sounds fair. What happens when my population starts expanding? ----------------- By the way, I was talking about my production of tanks and ships and the like. I was keeping them down to balance out my large population growth rate of 20% (I think this should be the highest, since I am giving up a lot of production here).

Essentially, for those who don't care: The Uncertainty principle states you cannot measure X if you measure Y because measuring Y makes X different. So therefore if X is 0 then Y must be more or less than 0, if it is less than 0 then the universe collapses and therefore must be positive...thus is zero point energy. What professor Mather ignores is the fact that if Y's energy was extracted, and it also became 0 then X would no longer be 0 and would need energy to supply this change...Thus the energy from Y would be transfered to X... Essentially we can split hairs because that is what you would be doing...you would be taking 0.0e+Infinatum 1 energy from each electron pair. So unless you had Space*Infinaty(or you invented subspace to be infinate for you) and some magical way to extract energy over the infinate volume of your container, and you were capable of scraping energy, without expending any energy, then fine....You come back to me in 8000 RL years when you have done all that and we will talk. If not then I am bringing back my people because I think I could create the Death Star and it wouldn't make any difference next to a 3T$ Pentawatt super energy source...Would be like building a laser capable of writing 'Science, what a joke' on the Sun... Its the sort of pseudo math that only TV can get away with. Also where did this oxygen come from? You supplied Methane.... -------------------------------------------------------------- Two things: 1. Where does the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle say anything about this? I believe it's about that you cannot find the exact location of an electron and its speed at the same time. Namely because if you tried to find the location and speed of an electron, you'd have to try and find the point of which a wave is located or the speed of which a singularity is moving. I think we're applying this to many different things here that aren't applicable. Were those quotes from Wiki? 2. What oxygen?

Well the way I saw it was that there are no children (just developing eggs), the elderly die unless they're in the government (since those in the government are mutated, sorta like queen bees), there are no people in jail (they're all being tortured and executed), and you can't be disabled (the anatomy of the body is such that if you break something severely so that you can't work at even a desk-job, then you're pretty much dead from not breathing. ---------------- I thought tanks and the like were too cheap, so I decided to add technological constraints, even though I have such a large population for labor. I've decided it would be better to self-moderate myself instead of making everyone disabled so they can't work. :) Are you fine with my numbers Archi? I'll send a PM everytime I feel that my production should increase.

Ah, a supertyrant!

With Yen we'd have a buncha big numbers. :( ----------------- Well I'm going to use these numbers for my nation approximately: Total Population: 50 million Enlistable Population: 10 million Female Population (that can do things past manual labor): 5 million Approximately 100 submarines produced every year (roughly equal to tanks). Of course I need feedback, since I'm the first one to post anything, but someone has to start somewhere.

Yet they have survival instincts and can be effective under a good (female) leader. Of course keep in mind they'd probaly fail on land without aerial support, but they'd be unstoppable at sea. Especially since my infantry can attack your ships (hardy har har) if you start trying to steal my pacific islands. :D

Well my infantry would have no aerial support (I start with subs but no air units), but my infantry have rifles and funny uniforms like everyone else. Not to mention I can't come with too many infantry or else I'll suffer a lot of random events. :P

I'm designing a race like the previous Lichtes where I have more population than anyone else, but fewer man-hours, due to the fact that only 1/10th of the population can do any mental functions beyond adding single-digit numbers. I think I'll start with 10 million civilians, but what does everyone else think about that? That would pretty much be the highest, but keep in mind I'll have one of the lowest man-hour totals.

Noooo, we have gotten into a global warming argument. Anyways, Mather's planet will not be uninhabitable... for me! I can move all my people down another few feet into the sea. :D