I always see you posting on threads like this, and your stats always make me want to prove you wrong (as you have low summon/herb/pray). Anyways, I did CT with wolper 92-95 for 120 crims per trip (1 hour) WITHOUT piety or even extremes! There wasn't that much difference when I got to iron titan, maybe 5-10 crims per trip difference. The only problem with waterfiends is the boredom factor - they get very repetitive. But so do lobs I guess. Slayer does too. Basically grinding on runescape is horrible. Rock lobs are around 150-180 crims/hour with an additional 80 golds, 60 greens and a handful of blues. But the cost is huge. I can only recycle what higher level people have said. I've seen alot of posts saying that CT fiends arn't worth it unless you've got iron titan, but if you've got personal experience, go ahead. If you've got a personal problem, pm me.