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Lol, lol, and lol -_-. Yes, you do need pictures to back up what you are saying. How do I know? because what they are posting is either somewhat wrong or totally wrong (I already replied to some topics correcting them). I weighted myself some months ago, and it was 181 LB. My height is 5ft 11inch. I don't work out to be big, I workout to have a low bodyfat percent while having symmetric muscle throughout my body. The word "big" is very, very misleading. Most people who normal people (aka the regular guy) consider "big" is someone who is tall and has a lot of body mass. However, when you touch this big person, they feel soft.. you can usually poke your finger in. This is called "fat". Ungiven is a powerlifter. He does not care how he looks, he only cares about his 1RM for the lifts he does. If you look at the picture he posted... he is not big (I'm probably his height, and possibly taller), and is mostly fat. I'm assuming that he is mostly fat by the shape of his right arm, which is missing the bicep bump and the tricep horseshoe, plus by looking at his chest area.. He is also missing the traps bump lol. To be perfectly honest, it is not that impressive. I am not a powerlifter (meaning the exercises are do are not to specifically increase in weight, but to target my desired area or areas) but my max for deadlifting was 405LBs.. and that was just picking it up. I don't incorporate deadlifting into my routine, so imagine how much higher it would be if I did. Seeing you so confidently post makes me wanna see how you look like in real life. Post a picture. ;)

What you are currently doing (aka your day-to-day routine) is very important as we can judge whether or not it is appropaite for your goals. Also, "getting fitter" is not a goal. Specify it. Do you wanna get "big", ripped, or just "be healthy"? Knowing what your goal is.. is important. Anyways, the OP hasn't started any arguments. It is simply those who can replied have made assumptions about him which were incorrect.. and that led to arguments. To answer the original question: you can do a lot with dumbbells. Triceps, deltoids, biceps, lats, and trapezius. However, if you are serious about getting "shape and definition" then just having a set of dumbbells is not enough. You either have to buy more equipment (if home gym) or get yourself a gym membership. After that, you have to learn what exercises work what muscle, and many other things. I would go into detail, but you are probably to loose interest in "bodybuilding" in a couple of months or perhaps even weeks. As for how much the dumbbells should weigh, that all depends on YOU and how much you can lift them using the CORRECT forum. Do remember that certain exercises require lower weight than others (depending on how developed the muscle you are targetting.. is). If you are already skinny, you have the bodyfat % part down... let me explain it. The lower your bodyfat % is, the easier it is to see your muscle. So if you are already skinny, that is great since (unlike many others) you don't have fat to loose.

My opinion. Just bring your iPod and work out. I find that working out with a friend, or having a "workout buddy", only slows me down. All that time spent talking about your "maxes", "what exercise is better for x", standing around watching each other lift, ect ect.. is much better used simply... exercising... All that chatting up and standing around builds up to 20-30 minutes of a 1 hour work out... you can do a lot in 20-30 mins. ;)

Do not workout if you are injured. You can very easily worsen your injury. Ask your doctor first. (yes, I know this is like a 2 month old topic)

Protein is what rebuilds your muscle, and thus "build muscle". Not a brand called "Muscle Milk". Weight is not a good indicator of progress, as those two pounds could very easily be fat (and most likely are). Also, muscle weighs more than fat.. thus you can very easily be burning off that fat and adding muscle... your weight is likely to decrease or stay the same. The better way to judge progress is to take periodic pictures (month to month) of yourself shirtless in a mirror. So you can compare your progress.

No, no, and no. Quite a bit of wrong information. Once again, no. Let me explain it to you guys... Calories are energy. Your body only uses what it needs, if you give it more calories than it needs it will store it away as fat. If you don't burn off that fat (by exercising/cardio), it will stay as such in your body. Once again, excess calories (not used by the body) is stored away as fat. Everyone stores their fat in different places. The way muscle works is very simple. When you work out in the gym, you are tearing your muscle apart. Protein rebuilds that muscle that you tore apart. Hence, you need to supply your body with protein. Now comes in the tricky part, the ratio of protein to calories (and how many of those calories are fat). That is why eating canned tuna is much better than a McDonalds double hamburger - tuna has very little calories and a lot of protien. Where as McDonald has tons of calories and some protein. If your nutrition is whatever, you will have a high bodyfat percent which is not good. Your weight is NOT an indicator of your progress. Why? because muscle weighs more than fat. Thus, you can be burning off fat and adding on muscle (fat does not turn into muscle), and staying (or dropping) weight. Instead, you should take off your shirt and look yourself in a mirror. Remember to take periodic pictures throughout the months so you can compare your progress.

What is your goal in working out? If it is just to "be/live healthy" then weight training is not necessary. You should watch what you eat and do sessions of cardio (burns fat, and great for your heart). If it is something more than being healthy, say so and we can provide the proper advice.

There are many types of push ups, and different push ups do different parts of your upper body. I'm assuming you are doing the classical pushup, which primarily works your chest, deltoids, and possibly some triceps. Remember to always use the correct form because if you don't, you will not be targetting the desired area(s) and/or you can injure yourself. Pushups are good for those seeking a "healthy lifestyle", but pushups alone will not get you "ripped" / "toned" / "big". You should set a total amount of pushups you wish to do, and complete them set by set. For example, say I wanna do 30 pushups before sleeping, I do 3 sets of 10. You can do sets of 20, or whatever you are able to. As for how many you should do, that all depends on you. If you're using the correct form from start to finish, fitness level, ect ect. My suggestion is you start with 5 pushups and build up until you reach 30. If you are unable to reach 30, just stop whereever you left off. Then the next day try to do just one more, and so on until you reach your goal. If doing 30 was hard before, it will now be obtainable. Then you raise your goal, and 30 will become easy as pie to do. The "pain" you may be feeling can be one of two things: soreness, or you are doing the pushup incorrectly (thus causing little pain). It is probably being sore. What you should do to relieve the soreness is to eat some grams of protein (8-15grams should do for ya) and then have a good nights sleep =]. You are sore because the muscle is rebuilding itself and is in need of protein (in order to repair tore muscle tissue) If you REALLY wanna get into bodybuilding / getting ripped, tell me and I will further point you in the right direction ;). Hi :). I start replying to working out posts in this forum tomorrow night (going to the beach tomorrow, morning - 7pm). The reason is because most posters in this forum are simply beginners to bodybuilding (they may consider themselves otherwise, but aren't) and are misinformed about how to build muscle correctly and loose fat (as well as other stuff). I'm not a powerlifter (as some here may be). I work out to look good in tight shirts (as aethetic as it's, it's true for most =]) and attract the girls. To put it simply: would you take my word or a someone who is 17%+ bodyfat, is soft (you touch them, feels flobby/soft), looks "big" (altho it's mostly fat), ect ect? Yea, that should answer it for you ;). Unlike other stuff, real life pictures when discussing bodybuilding show your experience and knowledge. Why? because you apply what you talk about in forums to real life, and if you are correct the results will appear. That is just how it works ;).

I have noticed that the knowledge of bodybuilding / working out in these forums (like all other gaming forums) is pretty poor and in some cases incorrect. I have been reading some posts and the amount of incorrect information just amazes me :o. Anyways I'm here for you to ask me questions about anything (although I prefer BBing-related). Here are two pictures of me, I have more. By the way, I also belong to a bodybuilding forum. =]. Ask away! I can't wait to start answering ;)

I kinda hope Drumgun didn't completely burn out and decided to stop all that exp gaining.. that would suck after he gained so much exp so freaking fast :|. Go Drummy Bear Go! :pray: :pray:

Larryr has been at 156M since mid 2006... he then quit.. dunno reason.. and remained the number 1 RCer for 2-3 years straight (while being a retired player) until Phoenix Odin finally passed him... what larryr did was and is pretty amazing considering he got 100% of his exp by personally running the nats. Before Hunter, before Summoning. but anyways, on topic: read the last 2-3 pages (which I hadn't read before). Was pretty cool to see Aasiwat/Skiller post :P. I also wondered if any of the top players read this thread, I guess they do. Hmmm Larryr had people running essence for him/her before the restriction on trades... Still amazing but what Phoenix Odin achieved is harder IMO. Oh well. Phoenix Odin only has 44M (or something near it) more exp than Larryr.. and he achieved that years later when you could use Hunter to reduce your weight, and certain quest items.. as well as with familiars to carry him stuff. I personally consider that it was harder for Larryr than for Phoenix.. back then like only 2 or 3 people had 200M in a skill, and seeing larryr at 100M+ was amazing o.o... I remember when the combat hiscores weren't so filled up with 200Ms. It was mostly Omarsherif, Samanthanz, Miles15, and another one I can't remember. :)

Larryr has been at 156M since mid 2006... he then quit.. dunno reason.. and remained the number 1 RCer for 2-3 years straight (while being a retired player) until Phoenix Odin finally passed him... what larryr did was and is pretty amazing considering he got 100% of his exp by personally running the nats. Before Hunter, before Summoning. but anyways, on topic: read the last 2-3 pages (which I hadn't read before). Was pretty cool to see Aasiwat/Skiller post :P. I also wondered if any of the top players read this thread, I guess they do.

You don't care for this topic, yet you read it. If you didn't care, you wouldn't bother to waste your time reading it. You do care.

I love how everyone ignores my reply and keeps on talking crap. Oh well, happens with every good post which defeats the purpose of a topic. I seen it happen.

Let clear everything up for you guys. Obviously, Jagex has taken control of the "rsbot.org" domain. The lawsuit is still in place, but "RSBot" is now owned by a different guy and not the people being sued. The person being sued sold everything to a "chinese guy". It is speculated he lives in China, so copyright laws are very weak there. Upon Jagex taking control of their domain, they changed their name (which can be very easy found by a simple Google search). The bot itself still works, the forums still function & are massive, and most of all, "RSBot" (now a new name) continues to exist just as it did prior to the domain takeover. Conclusion: this did not affect botting whatsoever. Everything is still the same.

im not sure why he did, he was a real world trader and at 25m a piece demonic thrones wuold have made him $100 irl ecah, so knowing hes a rwt idk why he did it Pretty sure he only started selling after he got tired of the game. You have to remember that accounts that sold gp got busted quite fast, you couldnt just go around for months selling your staking/merchanting profits. Just about all famous rich players that turned to RWT (that i know of), did it in a mad gp selling spree, to sell as much as possible before they got caught. Anyway, as xpx said, 223 gp/exp is unrealistic and that was the point of my post. I dont believe any of the top players have that kind of gp because if they did, they would be rushing through all the buyables, yet most of them arent so i dont think we'll see anyone using insanely expensive methods anytime soon. Bolded area would be incorrect. They did get busted, but not that fast. Cursed You managed to sell $17k in two months before "being caught". He claims that someone, somehow, got on his account. He was banned for RWT although Jagex, according to him, had no proof against him. He did admit to RWT, though. Same goes to all the top stakers who got banned for RWT: Raven, Fubupower, ect ect. http://www.di-rs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16803 I win, you loose. Gf That link does not take you to a page that says anything. Says some error occurred, the required files were missing and whatnot. Man, why do you have to act liek that? I hate people who act as if they know it all. The error was that I linked you directly to the topic, which is only available to registered users. Anyhow, same topic different style: http://www.di-rs.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t16803.html [/hide] I hope you were being scarcastic. I read the post, and found it interesting. Alright, cool. Sorry for being an a-hole :$

im not sure why he did, he was a real world trader and at 25m a piece demonic thrones wuold have made him $100 irl ecah, so knowing hes a rwt idk why he did it Pretty sure he only started selling after he got tired of the game. You have to remember that accounts that sold gp got busted quite fast, you couldnt just go around for months selling your staking/merchanting profits. Just about all famous rich players that turned to RWT (that i know of), did it in a mad gp selling spree, to sell as much as possible before they got caught. Anyway, as xpx said, 223 gp/exp is unrealistic and that was the point of my post. I dont believe any of the top players have that kind of gp because if they did, they would be rushing through all the buyables, yet most of them arent so i dont think we'll see anyone using insanely expensive methods anytime soon. Bolded area would be incorrect. They did get busted, but not that fast. Cursed You managed to sell $17k in two months before "being caught". He claims that someone, somehow, got on his account. He was banned for RWT although Jagex, according to him, had no proof against him. He did admit to RWT, though. Same goes to all the top stakers who got banned for RWT: Raven, Fubupower, ect ect. http://www.di-rs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16803 I win, you loose. Gf That link does not take you to a page that says anything. Says some error occurred, the required files were missing and whatnot. Man, why do you have to act liek that? I hate people who act as if they know it all. The error was that I linked you directly to the topic, which is only available to registered users. Anyhow, same topic different style: http://www.di-rs.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t16803.html

im not sure why he did, he was a real world trader and at 25m a piece demonic thrones wuold have made him $100 irl ecah, so knowing hes a rwt idk why he did it Pretty sure he only started selling after he got tired of the game. You have to remember that accounts that sold gp got busted quite fast, you couldnt just go around for months selling your staking/merchanting profits. Just about all famous rich players that turned to RWT (that i know of), did it in a mad gp selling spree, to sell as much as possible before they got caught. Anyway, as xpx said, 223 gp/exp is unrealistic and that was the point of my post. I dont believe any of the top players have that kind of gp because if they did, they would be rushing through all the buyables, yet most of them arent so i dont think we'll see anyone using insanely expensive methods anytime soon. Bolded area would be incorrect. They did get busted, but not that fast. Cursed You managed to sell $17k in two months before "being caught". He claims that someone, somehow, got on his account. He was banned for RWT although Jagex, according to him, had no proof against him. He did admit to RWT, though. Same goes to all the top stakers who got banned for RWT: Raven, Fubupower, ect ect. http://www.di-rs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16803 I win, you loose. Gf

http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?page=fight_pit.htm#fightcaves Forgot to list what items are being used for the different equipments.. and inventories... yo.. :(

It is just a freaking dollar =\. Can you really be that cheap to care so much for 1 dollar?

I don't know. I'm just assuming he merchants because eventually he will run out of the money he made from the combat 200Ms ... ye?? :s

Why is that impossible? most good merchants have 10b+, and drumgun would probably rather do prayer with frost dragon bones, as they are 2.5 times faster. You misread what I said :(. Version 2: To the general population of Runescape, 3.9 billion coins is considered a huge and unobtainable amount. However, when you have truly mastered the art of merchanting via the Grand Exchange (as all the top players have, Drumgun included), then this (3.9B) is not very hard to obtain.

TBH, I can pretty much accept unprofessionalism from Runescape... Every single large gaming investor has turned Jagex down, and as evident, tried it themselves... So far, no game has yet managed to surpass RuneScape... Stick it to the man, Gerhard, their fault for not tagging along the massivly prosperous project that is RuneScape :) But, let's be somewhat realistic... The only TRUE test if Jagex is that much more awesome then Sony, EA, or Activision, is if Stellar Dawn becomes the 2nd most popular free game on the net :) To be honest, it's pretty dang stupid of Mark Gerhard to call out Sony like that. Sony is a company that is recognized throughout the world. Even the most remote parts of the world, people know what it is. That being said, Sony has the political, economical, and ect power to bury Jagex with ease if it wanted. By the way, there are many big named p2p-only MMORPGs that surpass Runescape in terms of active players. No, WoW is not the only one. It's kinda funny how many RS players only use WoW as their "other MMORPG" example when there are many, many others. To each their own.

Well, you have to remember that this is a Runescape fansite, so nearly all of the replies will be pro-Runescape. Majority of the posters are also active players, which means they enjoy playing Runescape for one reason or another otherwise why would they play? Now, I will give my unbiased view. To have an unbiased view you have to look at both sides and understand what you're talking about, as well as each sides perspectives. I have played Runescape from 2002 until 2007 and recently came back (although going to quit soon, lol). I played Free Realms during the summer of 2009. Runescape does have 140 million registered accounts. The keyword here is "registered". Players in Runescape very often have way more than just 1 single account. Pures, skillers, specialized skillers, main(s), SCOUTS (rune mining, clan scouting, ect), bank mules (back in the days of free trade, and even old bh). There is a good reason to have multiple accounts in Runescape - you can gain several advantages. I'm sure I don't need to explain. All this boils down to: Runescape has most likely had 20-50 million unique players since it opened (January 4, 2001). In Free Realms, there is no reason whatsoever to have more than one account. You do not gain any type of advantages. Free Realms plays very, very differently than Runescape. You simply DO just play for fun. It's very different from the typical MMORPG. The game does not pressure you to gain any levels, there is no set "level" (as in when you hover over a player, they don't have a lvl), the max lvl in a skill is 20 - which is decently easy to achieve. The scenery in Free Realms is pretty cool :)! Because gaining max level in a skill does NOT require putting in massive amounts of hours (and it's somewhat easy, tbh), people don't no life it. They just play for fun. The amazing majority of the people that play FreeRealms are underaged - a much higher concentration than Runescape. All in all, I'm pretty dang sure that 9.5/10 million FR accounts are unique users. It's a big achievement for just 1 year ;). Mark is just being a cry baby that Sony felt like investing their money somewhere else and not into Jagex. If he really wants Sony's money, maybe he should think about converting Runescape from a "MMORPG" with graphics that even Everquest 1 beats TO a MMORPG with decent (or even great) graphics. No, do not use WoW as a "good graphics" example - WoW graphics are now considered standard. The very lame point-and-click combat system, as well as the VERY linear "skilling" system. Nearly every single gamer outside of Runescape regards RS as a very, very bad game. While those who do play Runescape are closed off in their own little world. Most RS players have never played another, real, MMORPG. No, WoW is not the only other MMORPG out there ;).

Drumgun gained 727k exp in Prayer today (according to RuneTracker, altho sometimes the "daily" updates can be off). Maybe hes going for Prayer as well? He also gained 1.1m Thieving in the same day. I calculated how many Dragon Bones Drumgun would need for 200m prayer (at his current exp): 723,292 Dragon Bones, which will cost 3.9B at the current mid price. To everyone it's impossible, but when you are a master epic merchanter, I imagine it's easy. interesting :o