Ok, I am probably (most likely) wrong. But I do know most cross country/track runners try to be ~5% BF. Also, last on page 1, amen to everything you said. Form is literally 95% of the way you get any kind of workout. Cross country runners may be that low, but they follow a highly detailed and specialized work out and nutrition plan that is tailored exactly to their sport. This isn't practical at all for your average fitness enthusiast. pic is a bit small but this is a good guide: As you can see, 5-7% is really, really cut. And on guys 10% looks very good and is still quite healthy. I'm probably around 18-20% just from looking at those pictures. Thanks for the posts, they have been very helpful. School is started for me in a bit over a week and I intent to become even more strict with my dieting and exercising, would anyone be interested in some sort of progression "blog"? I could just talk about what I've been eating and what routines I'm doing. I could also post pictures of myself around every 2-3 weeks if people would like to see that as well.