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The kind of people who would do something like this would do it regardless of inspiration; he could have easily mimiced another movie, or a video game, or even past figures (i.e. a serial killer or historical figure). Extremely violent video games and movies don't make it difficult for people to discern fantasy over reality, they are a mere source of fantasy. If they weren't there, these kinds of people would find some other source of fantasy.

I guess if you turn off accept-aid you'd be safe

You could try both - both of them can't heal you instantly, but bunyip isn't guaranteed to heal you to a safe level after you finish off the lobsters. Of course, you could bring both; i don't know much much on bloods that would save but it might save a bit, at the cost of prayer potions And for the comment between monk robes and veracs, i would use veracs until you get the hang of it; with my low def setup i still have leftover prayer pots from my trips (of ~1k+ crimsons)

Is mass genocide human too? Yes it is. Survival of the fittest, taking down competition, etc, etc. Please note, however, that i am only replying to your comment as you propose it (that mass genocide is human) - that anger, hate, greed and jealousy are all human emotions, just as love and caring are, too. Right and wrong are constructs of society, don't put that into your argument because i did not. While her action as a whole is tragic, im doubting there were preexisting psychological conditions or factors that fueled her action. From the article, it seemed like she was under great stress outside her work (myspace), and, of course, stress makes us susceptible to more stress. Something like this could have happened to anyone, her circumstances led to the worst outcome, though. And sadly, i don't think theres an exam that would be able to filter out childcare workers. She wasn't thinking. Thats usually the case when someone does something didn't mean to (and by that, i mean in a normal circumstance) I live with my siblings and cousins and they drive me up the wall. There are times when I want to throw them out the window, but all it takes is self-control and stuff like that won't happen. But bad stuff does happen. Not everyone can be just like you, with your limitless self control. Being related to them and giving birth to them and being connected on a completely different level, is different. Something nothing but a mother will ever experience. But since we're referring to someone who wasn't connected to them in that way, it does come down to self control. But if you read my post you would understand I was explaining to people why it happens, not justifying why it happened. So your comment wasn't worth mentioning after quoting me. It would be more relevant as a single response to the situation in general. You're right on that. My main point was mainly directed towards how you said thinking about it and being there are completely different. I think you're correct, but I think a lot of people on this thread have had similar situations and they did not snap like she did. It just shows something about her self-control. What does it show about her self control, then? And why does what it show matter? You got your head wrapped around her self control and how shes such a terrible person for not having it. Do you think she doesn't realize that? And once again, her circumstances led to the worst of outcomes. I have high tolerance but i still snap; ill shout and regret it, or act impulsively and apologize afterwards. Should that be the sole judge of my character? Should her one action be the sole judge of hers?

rewards look disappointing. The only incentive to do them is the 16k rc xp i'd get.

I agree. People say she liked children, for gods sake she worked at a child care center (whom don't get paid much, either - not much more than minimum wage). Its way to harsh to ruin someone's life over a bad decision that turned out for the worst. Of course, i'm not saying her act should be ignored, nor that her action is right. Simply, that her behavior is human

american boy at least, when its hot and dark

That eagles cardinals games made me really, really sad. Three touchdowns in a row! I've never been so pumped over football. There were some pretty bad calls, though. The one out of bounds punt on the eagles, the pass interception on curtis that wasn't flagged... regardless, i'll probably root for the cardinals during the superbowl

My comment was meant for the OP's post - that rape victims (as the OP thinks) shouldn't report what happened because they deserved to be ashamed for what happened to them. I don't work directly with rape victims, i work with people who work with them, however. Similar line of work.

i'd be able to superheat another bar of addy

Theres definitely something wrong with your barraging stats. I definitely do not get 474 crimsons per 1k casts, and the pictures i see on this thread agree. its more like ~350 your setup is almost exactly like mine, with one difference - i use infinity bottom. ahrim's robebottom weighs 10.5kg, infinity robebottom weighs 2kg. small sacrifice in magic att makes up for the 8.5kg, i think. I'm always near 100%

Chargers are dead atm. yes i watched the game, did you watch anything but the turnovers? Its not that they couldn't make plays when they had to - thats getting to 4th and goal and relying on field goals. Titans got up to goal and messed up. Outside the turnovers they performed well and its unfortunate that the game's outcome came from poor ball protection of course, you obviously don't agree and i respect your opinion (its similar to a friend of mine's, who i watched the game with), but really, the LOLWUT wasn't necessary oh, and are you from philly? were you there for the phillies world series riots? then you'd understand my last comment (in my other post)

wait, wait, wait. Rape victims shouldn't tell anyone what happened? holy [cabbage] you are [developmentally delayed]ed. what the [bleep] do you think happens when someone gets raped? "hey, i don't want you to forcefully and brutally have sex with me without my consent, but if you decide to do so anyways, i will let you do so as it is my responsibility to prevent you. If my attempts at fighting back and preventing your attempts fail, i will not tell anyone and accept responsibility for your overpowering me"

Wow. ravens got really lucky - titans should have won. Chargers and ravens shouldn't be as far as they are, i'm pretty sure they're going out soon And NICE - eagles beat giants. The safety got me worried but the eagles picked up momentum and the giants couldn't keep up if eagles win the superbowl, philadelphia is going to be burnt down. by its own inhabitants.

if the quills have been nerfed, theres no reason to do this every day anymore

It's to make the distractions and diversions more fun and challenging. Expect to just walk in there every day for free stuff? No way. Well for a dialy activity it's pretty annoying, the price of the feathers will determine whether or not it'll be worth doing. This, Bork and a herb run really adds up. whats the herb run?

i'm rooting for Eagles, though realistically i think titans will win; though the eagles have been winning they've had a fare share of lucky plays that helped them win. but who knows? /crosses fingers for eagles

i don't like alcohol. I can stomach it, but i try to taste it as little as possible I took a shot of some alcohol that tasted like licorice at my (iranian) friend's house. He poured me half a glass and added a little water, and it turned cloudy. I took it real fast but I absolutely hate the taste of licorice. About half an hour later i started feeling sick, either from the taste, my lack of eating anything besides lunch a few hours ago (i don't know the proof of the alcohol), or from the used tobacco in the hookah i was smoking. Either way, i puked and i will never try licorice tasting alcohol again

I've never gotten a black demon task since smoking kills came out. Never. Its kinda disappointing...

something similar happened to my school - someone obtained a teacher's acc/pass to the system, and he changed 9 out of 10 of the top ten student's grades (all but the top student's), for money. He was caught and expelled, the people who paid him were taken "off" the ranking list, and all received honor code violations So what happened? They all (all nine of them) still got into their (good) schools (all but one was an ivy). The "hacker" still got into college and was hired by a school system to manage their grade systems While hes facing a lot of trouble, people looking for people to manage security will be looking for people like him - hes shown his stuff but got caught - once he gets rid of the "caught" part, hes good. And he did more than just steal passwords - he installed spyware so he could access those computers from a remote location. I'm pretty sure thats more than just stealing and using a password.

Though people go on streaks without sleep, they still need to sleep at the end. Is there an article on the guy that can't sleep? I can't find it on google and it sounds really interesting either way, the longest i went without sleep was about 44 hours - on a wendesday i woke at 6am, went to class, pulled an all nighter to finish an english paper, went to class, went to prom, got back around 2am friday morning. Yes, i was running off 37 hours of sleep when i went to prom, and no, i couldn't cut school, i had that paper to hand in. but during the entire run i felt awake - tired, but awake. And once night/morning passed, i felt completely normal; i was completely normal during prom despite my lack of sleep. I'm pretty sure how your body reacts to sunlight, as well as your internal clock, helps you stay awake, despite lack of sleep.

i lied. i read your post. this is my last official post, i just want to make things clear 1) i stated in my second sentence exactly why i want to stop reading/responding to you. its just too frustrating when you don't respond to me, even when i take my time to address every single one of your arguments directly and in full, only to have your response completely misinterpret what i say. no, not misinterpret. someone would misinterpret when he or she reads something and doesn't get the right idea. i wouldn't call even call what you do misreading, because you don't even read what i say. how do i know? your responses seem to always take just a snippet of something i say (or not even a snippet. sometimes, you completely ignore things) and draw an argument and or conclusion that had been addressed a few lines later. quick example: the second sentence of my previous response to you addressed why i wouldn't respond anymore. you missed that (and i assume the rest of what i said), and drew your conclusion in your p.s. quick example two: your response to my "problem one:" quote (ironically). like i said, the very next sentence explained my accusation. I even bolded and italicized my specific quotes! what else do you want? i never said you are proud of acting like a smug smartass in concern to suicide (there was a completely separate sentence between those two completely different accusations!!!!!! (emphasis on completely different. somehow i think you'll miss that point) how much more separate do you want them to be?) And what does being called proud (especially in the context i put it in (hint: i said "proud of [yourself]")) directly connect to being insensitive (directly connect, because you made a connection between the two)? 2) you still refuse to explain what you say. this isn't just for me and you, though. if you're going to make an accusation, argument, or conclusion over something that someone (i.e. me) said, at least have the courtesy of explaining why (alongside addressing everything that that person says) And no, i did not learn anything from trying to explain to you. open mindedness isn't about taking in everything the other person says, its about acknowledging (as opposed to denying or ignoring) everything they say. i was MORE than open minded. I addressed EVERYTHING you said, but what can i learn if you don't address/understand what i say back? its like talking to someone who responds with different topics. or talking to someone that doesn't speak english anyways, this is really the last time im responding. i have to study for finals and i won't be checking tipit until after im done; of which this thread isn't going to be the first thing i check. if you really want me to see something, like i said, pm me; ill get an email notification. if not, then, well, enjoy the conclusions you make from this post, and i hope you someday learn to better communicate your points (that was not an insult, either).

isn't really understood? where did you get that from? And wow, we haven't pinpointed a lot of diseases yet (how does cancer start), does that make them a load of crap? what does a bipolar changing poles have to do with anything? he was pretty obviously in the depressive pole. and why did mentioning he was bipolar take away from the article? seems like a lot of people ignored it anyways and jumped to some pretty rash conclusions, so imagine had it not been mentioned. And your last statement proves that you know nothing about suicide or mental illnesses. i suggest you read whats been said before you stick with that statement

Zierro, i'm going to stop trying to talk to you any more. its silly for me to waste time talking to someone who does not read everything I say (even when i take the time to address everything you say), who takes sentences out of paragraphs and puts them in his own context, who tosses red herrings EVERYWHERE, and who puts up an argument without explaining why. Before you tell yourself that i'm the one whose wrong, ill show you where you did these, so maybe, somewhere along the line, you'll learn to be... uh... a little less frustrating You didn't directly say it but you sure implied it with this: As you can see, you're the one who was trying to speak for us even though you misinterpreted what some of us said. All I said was broadcasting it is a form of attention. And even if he does have an illness I don't see how that invalidates the point I made. problem one: not reading what i say. I did not imply that you were insensitive. IN FACT, the very next sentence, where i mention that no one called you insensitive, i explained (in bold) why i called you what i did (in italics). Even had i not put that there, there isn't even a subtle accusation of insensitivity. however, you say "all i said was broadcasting it is a form of attention". Here, however, is where you imply more than you said. So no, you didn't not just say broadcasting is a form of attention. you said it to express how you believed the action was stupid. Am i right? heres the quote i'm (and you) talking about, just so you completely understand me and how words can imply meaning: For attention... which is almost worthless when you are dead. And I do agree it is a cry for attention. But that is (a cry for attention) a VERY broad, general term, in a good way, or a bad way (usually a bad way). I disagree, thus, in labeling it as a cry for attention, because it is specifically a cry for help. Merely labeling it a cry for attention (which has a negative context usually) puts everything asking for attention under a negative umbrella. P.s. you said "And even if he does have an illness I don't see how that invalidates the point I made". that fits in no context of anything i've said, nor do you specify which point was invalidated Your first sentence i address (and addressed before) two paragraphs up. The fact that he succeeded doesn't change the fact that it was a cry for help, its a cry for help whether or not he gets help. How do i know? 1) he brought it to the attention (yes, attention) of multiple people. 2) he did not immediately kill himself. Those who want to die will die quick (like i said before). Statistically, men choose fast, quick methods of suicide. He made it slow because he wanted people to help (i feel like i'm repeating myself) Nobody wants to deal with suicidal people. Not even the people who help them want to, because they'd rather be in a world where they are not needed. My point? Only people who care will try to help. When people go for help, they go to people who are close. I said this before: his community, his life, was on that forum, thats why he went to it for attention who said hes not accountable for his actions? Not i, i merely said its ignorant to jump and say hes doing it for attention when there are other major external forces influencing his actions. Though, i do agree that its ridiculous to put blame on him (maybe a little. but i guess that varies between people) over an action that he, really, has almost or no control over. Please, please understand severe depression before you make a call. phew, good thing thats not me putting arguments without explaining why! even without your reasoning, yes it is opinionated in that it is a socially constructed scale. maybe in a society where everybody is profoundly depressed and 95% of the population completes suicide will the scale (the scale being the significance of depression in suicide) be insignificant. Until then, though, depression, whether you want it or not, is a major factor in suicide. my point was that depression and emotionally scarring experiences are more tied then you seem to think, though i guess i was a little too general; emotionally scarring experiences are tied with most psychological disorders so i was trying to say that emotionally scarring experiences lead to mental disorders. So your statement regarding scarring experiences being worse than depression i don't really see being possible, though that might be because i've never heard of a case like that (almost always the experience leads to a disorder. so, i guess you could say experiences that lead to disorders may be worse than depression because that disorder is worse than depression) if you know a case, though, i'd like to hear. and the fact that it is genetic may or may not render it worse. it was not meant as an argument, however; merely it was a complement to causes of mental disorders (some people are more susceptible to some disorders, while more resilient to others, and thats genetic) now thats another red herring. lets look at how the thought progressed. your point, when you brought up the father abusing the child, was that attributing external factors to a decision is making an excuse; the act and its responsibility lies solely on the person who made the decision. am i right? heres your quote: then, bluelancer says that bullying, thus, is different from suicide, because bullying IS, largely, a personal decision to be superior to someone. he even says that it is a personal decision when you don't have a mental disability governing your actions! that in mind, normal people's decisions to not be bullys, even with abuse (because they cope with it), makes it a different issue. (when they cannot cope with abuse, it becomes a mental disorder (usually personality disorder)) then i say the difference, thus, is between people who can cope (escape their past) up until it STOPS so they are normal people, and people with mental disorders. thats why bullying =/= suicide BUT THEN, your statement talks about scarring experiences (and like i said, they usually lead to mental disorders). With that, you do two things. 1) you ignore what we said and drew an argument that did not related to what you said, and 2) your argument contradicts your original point (to make that clear, your point was that attributing external factors to decisions is "[making an] excuse"). you do agree, thus, that factors do have influence over decisions, huh? or are you the one making the "slippery slope"? (because, so far, it seems pretty cut and dry to me) Okay. i'm done. i'm going to stop responding to you, zierro. hopefully you learned something out of this, i sure didn't. if you really, really, really want a response from me, or if you really want to tell me something, shoot me a pm, i'm not going to read your posts anymore

No one asked you to mourn over anybody's problem. No one called you insensitive, either (you brought that up, actually). I did, however, point out the fact that you judge someone in a situation you do not fully (or at all) understand. I'd rather you pay attention to that then put words in my mouth. and what did respect have to do with anything? where did that come in? please elaborate as to why? you try so hard to press your points, but you continue to not back them up. Why is it a cry for attention and not help? And no, i'm not looking for an internet fight, i was just trying to spur you into explaining what you meant, i.e. explaining why you think that way. apparently it didn't work =/ Whose making excuses besides you? You can't just look at suicide as simply someone just killing themselves. Theres more than that, including the people and events involved. your current mentality, though, tries to ignore that part. Say someone kills themself. By then i'm pretty sure you're thinking "what a fool for choosing that option" say you found out he was given three choices: constant, excruciating pain for the rest of his life, a pill that would permanently make him unable to feel (emotionally), or a loaded gun. Is anything any different? And in case you didn't notice, i described the options for someone with major depression. I'll assume that you agree that external factors played a huge role, though, with how you respond vvv later VVV Heres a little thing about clinical psych for ya. There are points where lines have to be drawn, no doubt, but Clinical depression doesn't need a line. Its like asking a line to be drawn for movement disabilities in someone with no legs, or eyesight disability with a blind person. it is a debilitating that once you understand that, i would ask that you please do not try to put everything on the same level. little things to affect one's actions; on a small scale, you turn on the lights when it gets dark, on a medium scale, passing someone with highbeams inhibits sight for a very short while, on a large scale, you turn on the lights after being in a dark room, on a huge scale, you are blinded by a grenade. clinical depression is on the huge scale. i know you want to debate this, but it doesn't need a line drawn. there are three problems with your statement. for one, you start with "i think" regarding an issue (depression) that has been studied and diagnosed for a long, long time. second, you do not address what it is "worse" than. worse than what, suicide? or depression? if you meant depression, than maybe (because i do not know your intent, and maybe you don't either...) you are partially right, because emotionally scarring experiences are common precursors to depression. but sometimes it is not; depression and other mental illnesses are also genetic those people who don't become bullies escape their past. those who don't complete suicide are still living with their future. becoming a bully is a conscious choice to an external factor that stops, completeing suicide while depressed is a less painful route to an internal factor that always exists. just like bluelancer says, bullying =/= suicide once again, please do not simplify suicide like that. read what i said earlier about making decisions and how a choice isn't just the outcome, but what leads to it.