Gamerr

Wow :\ Used to fight him a lot in classic, he had also a lower leveled pure Kryptik where he made my word 7 castle days unpleasant. I think he posted some kill pics here a while ago, very sad to see him go. RIP.

Always nice to meet the fans :) I'm assuming with the bold you want to point out my poor spelling, yet you don't use capitals nor punctuation marks. Sorry English isn't my maternal language, I do my best to type as good as I can. I wanted to say that it's always nice to know what the staff is working on, in a topic. It's also nice to know what the CD users want so the staff can fill the needs of the users. And if users know what they are working on, they won't say "tip it is dying" but have more patience. Not really sure what your point is here, yet Laikrob is indeed a far better staff member then I am. I complimented here multiple times (I'm sure you have read my post on her goodbye topic) and I told in my previous posts that she's one of the few people that I worked under who really were outstanding. Yet I also shown my admiration for Y Guy, Kim & Joe since I think they are great. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. Since when is that an answer? As I said on my post it's - in my opinion - important to give people an idea if there will be a tourny in the winter of 2011 or if it's more a long term project for the spring of 2012. Funny that comes from you, you registered today (welcome to tip it ! ) and start to flame me out of nowhere. You accuse me of not being active, yet you weren't even registered before today. When I browse I don't post a lot, I read these forums weekly out of interest. Funny how you accuse me multiple times of not reading trough topics, of not being active yet you weren't even around when I was a staff member so how can you know what I did or didn't do? Do you ever see me brag with something? I'm not active in the clan world anymore no. Yet I read these forums, and as you certainly will know there aren't many frequent posters here. So yeah, the few that post I know. As you certainly know as well informed person Michael West (the runehead owner back then) said if tip.it would make great memberlists Runehead would probably close. Back then it was an opportunity to get ahead of other clansites, and if the main coder didn't have time to finish the project (they had a few people on it, I don't think the tip it crew would "waste" resources on something that would "certainly fail") I have no idea who you are, but if you know me from the past and have a problem with me it's always fun to know your original RSN/forumname. And again, you base your opinion on me on 1 post - classy ! Not sure where I'm not constructive, I'm sure that if my opnion is worthless they will ignore it.

Ok... Anyway: I was always a fan of transparancy. If I look at the clan forums I only see two - if I may say - seriously inactive stickies: Improvement topic - only 5 posts in a year, hardly any suggestions TWR Suggestion topic - last post 07.11.2010 I don't know, I kinda expected a topic made by a staff member with questions on how do the current visitors see the future, what are they suggesting, ... Also, oppurtunities to maybe give an activity boost aren't updated/follow up'd on: Tip it tournament - will there be one in 2011 ? I assume a tourny takes a lot of preparation so if that hasn't started yet maybe say "Next spring 2012 a big tourny" or w/e. If you keep users posted they will frequentely check these boards to see what the plan is, and maybe drop by the CD and reply on a few topics. I know it's easy to not do anything myself - since I don't play RuneScape anymore so I wouldn't be useful - but there are a few simple things to do in my honest opinion that don't take so much work. Update users on the projects the clan staff is working on, and do that atleast every month. If a newsletter is too much work, just a small topic on CD then with the activities these days. You could make new fresh discussion topics about specific problems (e.g. : do you want a TWR tourny? do you want a tip it tourny , ... and make polls in those topics, always attracts more users) Don't do such things in the conclave, but in the CD forums. I'd personally hire 5-10 extra staff members (I know maybe there aren't a lot of people around but when I look around here I see like 4-5 potential candidates (ofcourse I'm not informed if some of them already declined a position) ) and prepare them for something. A tip it tourny still in the winter of 2011, clan memberlists, a complete revamp of tip.it, or a big TWR tourny where the winner clan gets a month advertising on tip it's front page, I don't know what's possible. However, I think many of the tip it CD users are a bit uninterested also. If I see something, I'd make a topic about it to discuss something. Apart from a few here, most of the users only complain and never hand in a constructive suggestion. Though to form a great clan discussion then when some people only seem to be interested in tip it when they don't have to cooperate and be innovative themselves and basicly sit back and jump on the success train. This is just my opnion eh, I just don't like dancing around the problem and chit chatting about irrelevant stuff. Yeah Danny sometimes seems a bit cynic but I don't know, maybe he just wants an active CD and thinks there isn't done enough at the moment. I'm not saying we all should become negative and shout out that tip.it's clan discussion is dead, but I don't know maybe a few small things could make a huge difference.

I know you did, however I don't browse these forums a lot anymore. However I think this topic isn't the place to vent your worries in my opinion. Kevin deserves to be congratulated without being questioned when he didn't even have a chance to proof himself. I'm not saying I disagree with you, but there isn't a quick fix. To "revive" a clan section you need a lot of hardworking people who spend a lot of time on thinking out ideas, trying new things. There's a chance that all that work is for nothing, but there's also a chance that it will succeed. I'm not saying Kevin will turn things around, but he's extremely active I see and he tries to make topics - even when hardly anybody else does. I know it's "useless" in the eyes of many people, but if really nobody posts here anymore then the clan section is truly dead. I'm not going to comment on the current clan staff, but I doubt the situation is different from that a few years ago. A lot of great staff members left the clan staff, and I personally think they should hire a bunch of really active members now, and indeed try to rebuilt it step by step. What did change is the clan situation, since I'm unaware of the current clan activity I don't know if it's realistic to dream of a super active clan section. Personally I always had a lot of problems with the hierarchy on tip.it. The admins really supported the clan section, certainly when Daniel and Laila were in charge, but there was so little out of the box thinking. I'm not sure if it came from upperhand, but it was hard to get an - maybe risky - innovative idea done. We once had the chance to make some sort of runehead, and instead of putting heaps of people with tech knowledge on it (because honestly, if that was good tip.it could be the biggest clan section now) they just let it die. I also never understood the idea behind promoting clan moderators to super moderators. I think it's a good idea to promote clan moderators like Kim, Y Guy or Joe who did a great job but give them a "higher" rank excusivly for the clan section. Now they spend a lot of time on moderating other boards (I could be wrong but I thought a super moderator was a "general" moderator) instead of having the full focus on the clan section. Times with low activity are the time the clan section needs people (like the CL's) who exclusivly are working on how to revive it. This is in no way a finger point to the current clan forum activity of Kim, Y Guy or Joe - but it's just something I never understood. Because honestly the only person that was able to do that - and that I worked under - was Laila. I never had the end responsability ofcourse, and maybe the not-clan admins were afraid tip.it's clan section would become too big and the rest of the forum would be undermined, I don't know. However, with the right people and motivation a lot is possible here. I saw that myself a few years ago when I thought the clan section would slowly but steadidly grow to a new dimension, however for an unkown reason that growth stagnated. Edit: now I'm doing it myself to discuss this matter in a wrong topic. This post can be moved elsewhere if it isn't suited.

Comments like that change a lot on the contrary. Congratulations Kevin!

Nice, still playin scape eh :)

Super!

If you are seriously suggesting that in times like these there isn't anything to update/communicate about, then our opinions couldn't lie further from eachother :mellow:

Oh great, the "tip it is too severe" story again. How original. If there's one thing I don't think anybody can complain about it's about the mods their looseness imho. Please give examples of what you say, I'll give examples of why you can't complain: 1. This topic got locked (http://forum.tip.it/topic/288420-is-tip-it-dead-or-not/) for a good reason. It was a useless topic, so no need to keep it open. 2. This topic is handeled very loose imho. (http://forum.tip.it/topic/287474-please-welcome-our-newest-cl/ ) Its a congratz topic, but yet again some cowboys find it necessary to start baiting and whining about stuff going on or not going on at tip it CD, instead of putting some effort in making a decent well typed out topic to discuss it. Only Danny decided to do that, but of some of the others I am yet to see a suggestion about how we can help out. Please find me examples of too severe moderation? I'm honestly interested. Do you want a RSCommunity scenario (with all due respect) where everybody can act like a moron (well, I'm afraid it's the best some can do) and just support the decline in quality clans have to suffer the last years? I sure don't.

*whistles*

Nice post Danny, I agree with most of your points. You hit the nail on the head with some comments :thumbup: I'd like to respond of this. I know you guys do a lot of work behind the screens, but why aren't there updates of what you do? You don't have to go into detail, but a topic every few weeks with thoughts, suggestions that are being worked on by the staff would be handy. Some sort of voice where the staff explains to everybody what their views are on the past few weeks, on the new wilderness, ... I miss that here. I also think you shouldn't keep a CL in place who hasn't even logged in in 2011, if you keep staff that is inactive (for whatever personal or not personal reason) too long listed as staff, people have a wrong idea of the size of the current active staff.

Nobody stops you to help out instead of wasting your time on being a negative nancy. Ofcourse it's easier to bash without handing out solutions :) On topic: Gratz Jack!

Gratz Oranges <3:

I'm going to comment on parts of this quote further in my post, but what I don't understand is that nobody of the clan staff responds to this. Wheter he is right or wrong, if I was a clan staff member I'd jump on that post to proof him wrong, or atleast give a short insight of my opinion. But that's just something that popped in my head when I saw this... First of all I'd like to say a great post unclebilly, enjoyed reading it. However, I don't agree with this part tho. I do think that users are mainly responsible for the activity of the clan boards, however the staff can help. I think of the clan staff as the engine of the clan boards, they have to start things up and keep the train going. Ofcourse there could be more discussions, but there used to be some sort of agreement when I was in it that one of the staff members made an interesting discussion topic every week with some insights in the clan world, the wilderness, ... I don't understand how with the wilderness returning there are hardy topics about it. The last discussion topic made by a clan staff member dates from months ago.. Got to agree with Pan here. Activity is also posting updates about what the clan staff are doing. Are you thinking about changing the TWR with the new wilderness? Are you working on something? What is happening with some projects your working on? What is the opinion of the clan staff on all these matters? How do you expect to keep tip.it operational the next months? etc, etc...

Good job 'The' !

The Alliance #1 again ? :shades:

I'm not in the position to write down what I think. I havn't been active on tip.it for a long time, and the things I see are based on a few days of browsing these boards. I do have a few things I'm worried about, however I can only judge for example activity based on what I see people do on these boards and if there are not many new topics, that it seems not only the boards are not so active, but also the people. I am however not active on RS anymore, so I have no idea if clans still do full outs and stuff but I do think - as a general rule - that if you look at it from the perspective from a big warring clan you need to offer them a warring list where they can fight without having to cut more then 10% of their memberlist. Maybe some kind of "cluster" fights where 5-6 small clans unite against 1 big clan for bonus points? Pray tell. I meant with a different style of modding not that the current style is bad. I know you're one of the thinkers behind the more loose modding style on the clans section, and I really share your ideas about that and think that the clan section has grown a lot on that topic. I just mean that currentely tip it doesn't have the capacity to handle (big) clans. For me the clan moderators are the heart & soul of a clan staff, and currentely you have none. I know Y Guy, Nobody & yourself are technically clan moderators, but I always wondered how people could focus and on being a super moderator and doing all the clan staff work. I'm not implying they should step down, because it's needed that the "bosses" of the clan staff are higher ranked. I'm just saying you need 5-6 clan moderators who exculsivly manage the clan section, who can train the CL's & who basicly run the place here. I always saw super mods & admins more like "oversee-ers" who manage the section but mostly have a more behind the scenes role. However I have no idea if there is the interest & the quality to hire that many clan mods, but if you do hire people I'd just try to find people with more or less influence in the clan world. But again, I don't know if there are many active tip.it members present here who are a member of the big(er) clans.

I don't want to throw mud, but this is mostly the case in the TWR. The strong clans get bored or frustrated because small clans here cannot seem to understand that when you are challenged by a big clan you will loose probably. It was that way when I was helping doing the TWR, and maybe it's because of the rules or the mentality I don't know. It's a thin line, you can make the TWR very easily attractive for big clans, but as long you don't have a few of them it's hard to enforce rules that aren't beneficial for the most clans active on tip.it. But again, I'm not sure if the (clan) staff really wants strong warring clans here since they would bring a lot of traffic (and work) and require a totally different style of modding, which I'm not sure that it suits tip.it these days.

The problem within tip.it is that there is basicly no interest for the clan section. I never understood that, because tip.it has all the ingrediënts to become the most visited site, but they refuse to take a risk. It annoyed the hell out of me that everything has to be discussed endlessly. Because of the over-complicated structure of all the staff members & organs like "The Conclave" which are both inactive. If I see the current clan staff, they aren't really visible. I browsed some topics & it's quite depressing to see how the initial optimism of about a year ago when the clan tournament was hosted is all gone again. What tip it needs is a few people who put their foot down. Now tip.it babysits on the small clans and give them what they want. In my opinion (and that annoyed the hell out of me as a TWR mod) the small clans should accept that they are small and stop whining because they are heavily outpulled. Or you make seperate lists for small clans or you just accept the fact that if you have a 10 man clan it's impossible to reach #1 in the TWR rankings. However the huge problem with tip.it is that - despite the lack of interest for the clan section - whenever a risk is suggested the admins stand on their feet and say "No way we can do that". The incredible fiasco of the memberlists (I don't know what exactly happened but at a certain moment the project was delayed for a year now, and I asked an admin why they didn't hire specific crew members just to work on the lists and he said there was no time for that, I mean what the heck? That could have made tip.it #1 again), and the constantely fluctuations of activity are getting old. At a certain moment I began to think that tip.it bosses (not meaning the admins now specificly, just also some clan staff members) didn't want to make tip.it big again. Most promising clan staff members also took Global mod ranks, and I always wondered how you can focus on both jobs since being a clan staff member takes up enough time as it is. Oh well, sorry for this rant and I hope people aren't offended but that's how I see it when I do a quick overview. I hope the staff has a plan what to do with the TWR when wildy comes back, maybe a game-plan how to get clans back to tip.it? But the same questions were asked years ago...

Very sad to see you leave the (clan) staff Laila. You've always been an inspiration to me in the time I was in it, because whatever the task was you did it with the most effort possible and always delivered pure quality. Your leadership qualities were impressive, and you were actually one of the few people I really admired. Thanks for all the work you have done for tip.it, despite being inactive for a long time now I still notice that you were doing a hell of a job. This is a great loss for the clan staff & tip.it as a whole, but real life comes first. Best of luck there Laila! <3:

Happy Birthday 'The' <3:

Wow, that's been a while since I've seen your name, didn't know you still played. As always, a great job Moe. :thumbup:

I have to agree here. Spending a lot of time on a game is one thing, but doing absurd things like some I read here should make you think. If you skip basic stuff like toilet, meals or social contact for a game then you should worry about your relationship to it. I've seen a documentary of (addicted) WoW players who went to the store and bought food that was quick to eat, who used bottles to urinate & who drank unhealthy amounts of Red Bull all to stay awake as long as possible & to loose the minimum amount of time. They were so addicted that their girlfriend (was suprised they actually had one) had to log them in if they were coming home late from work to not loose too much time. I think this topic is, besides "funny", also a bit sad. I'm not saying individuals who do stuff like that all have a problem, but I am saying clans these days suck because of this mentality. I'm sorry, the majority of clans are filled with people who have obviously too much time on their hands, because I see no other healthy explanation why on earth you would spend 10 hours in a row in a stupid war just to fight out an e-battle where nobody gives a damn about. Clans used to be filled with people who liked to scape but saw it as something they could do as entertainment. I always found it amusing clan leaders said dedication was based on your bank & returning skills. I've been out the clan world for a while now, but I think nothing much has changed. That's also the reason that I respect 'The' alliance clans so much. They might not have the best structure, or the best outcomes but 'The', Gladz, ... are still clans as it should be. You have to be active, but you can be perfectly a member there and not have to spend hours and hours on (pointless) wars. Anyway sorry for the rant, wanted to post something like this for a while now and this seemed a good topic to do so.

A very, very long time. I didn't do it for the cash, I just seem to like RC :lol: Thanks all!

Everything is cooler when it's doubled: Beer Girls And ofcourse also... NATURE RUNES Rate/hate - I'm quite happy with it, although you don't have to do it for the cash anymore.