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@Tripsis: Arguably it didn't need doing at all.... However, since it is going to be/has been done, then it might as well be done properly...Not a gloss which may not look scary, but conveys nothing as to what the Tavern is or what can be expected from the Tavern. Especially when the rules you included leave a lot of gaping holes which, on discussing with new members, who have joined over the last two weeks, seem to be the main concern when joining the Tavern... Quite frankly normal forums don't feel let down when the Admin make changes without consulting the users. We just don't want feel bad...is that so hard to understand?

Falador Tavern is a role-playing forum aimed at users who are interested in becoming part of a community of roleplayers. To join said community all you need is an interest in roleplaying and the willingness to post. If there is anything you wish to ask then it should be directed to one of these friendly people, posted in the Backroom or asked off the thread creator through the private message system. Forum Rules and Guidelines 1. Games are run by the Moderator or Mod or the Game Moderator or the Game Master or the Dungeon Master or the Author, or the Thread Creator. So if you see someone being refered to as any of these terms you can be fairly certain that is the person to PM with any questions you may have about the thread/game. 1.2 If you are ever unsure who the Moderator is then post in the thread asking. If you forget please look back over the thread. 2. Threads may or may not have their own rules laid out in the opening post. 2.1 If they do have their own rules they will be outlined in the Opening Post as fully as the Moderator can, but games are often a work in progress, so if you are not sure, ask! 2.2 If they do have rules outlined then the opening post will probably refer to a well known game type, such as Hegemony or Dungeoneering. These 'Types' are based on Tavern Tradition and may look daunting for new players who don't have a lot of experience with the Tavern, but are based on commonsense concepts which are easy to pick up as you go along. The two main types are outlined at the end of this introduction. 3. In roleplaying debates can sometimes get very heated, just remember, its only a game, no one's feelings need to be hurt. If you see someone being picked on, and you think it should stop, please PM the person who is posting the mean comments and ask them to stop, this will usually solve the problem. If they are rude or refuse to stop, please report them, including as much information as you can, by clicking on this button, next to the offensive post: 3.1 If you are ever unsure whether or not to post, ask yourself these questions: Does it Improve on the Silence? Is what you saying True? If it isn't True, is it at least Kind? 4. Do not advertise your own game on other people's threads. It can be very hurtful to see people leave your game to play someone else's, and very disruptive to the game. 5. If you think a game could be improved in some manner, PM the Moderator with your suggestions, if the Moderator agrees with your suggestions then he or she will post, asking if the players would be ok with this change. It is important not to become over defensive about your ideas, a big argument in the middle of a thread can really disrupt gameplay, something nobody wants. 5.1 Occassional 'Discussion' threads are started specifically to discuss an individual game. These should only be started by the Moderator as it can be very hurtful to the Moderator if someone else tries to redesign the game while they are trying to run it. 5.2 It is important to understand that the Moderator has the final word here. If you are playing a game and disagree with the Moderator very strongly, so much so you think it may cause problems later, then simply post 'I am sorry [Moderator's Name], I disagree with how you are running this thread and I wish to withdraw from the game.' Losing a player is often saddens a Moderator a great deal, but it is important for both the Moderator and the Player to know where the other stands on the issue. 6. If you withdraw from a game then your forfit the right to rejoin that game later and MUST ask the Moderator. The Moderator has no obligation to allow you back into the game. 6.1 The Moderator is under no obligation to allow any player to take part in a game that they are running. 7. It is the Responsibility of ALL Posters to obey the Rules set out by the Tip It Forum. If they forgo this responsibility then posts may be edited or removed and their accounts warned or banned from the whole Forum. 7.1 It is the Moderator's Responsibility to run the game in a manner that is coherant and user friendly. If they forgo this responsibility then players may choose not play the game any longer. 7.2 It is the Player's Responsibility to play the game is a manner that is coherant and sensitive to the Moderator. If they forgo this responsibility then the Moderator may choose to give the player penalties or may even decide to give up the game altogether. 8. These Rules and Guidelines represent a Voluntary Agreement. There is no reward on penalty for following or not following these rules(With the exception of rule 7.). Failure to follow these rules will simply upset the people who agree with them 9. These Rules and Guidelines have been Ratified by Simple Majority of Falador Tavern Users on the Date _______ And by the Tip It Adminstration Team on Date _______. 9.1 Falador Tavern Users are defined as: Earthdragonsage TheMather1 Nexaduro Roccodog Iconic Ross_The_Knight Icuownage Retech9691 Archimage A Ieyfura Stork Grim Nero The Kingdom of Spork Paul191600 Wisp RPGgamer Andvari 9.2 Additions to the list in 9.1 must have a simple majority. 9.3 Subtractions to the list in 9.1 must be requested one month in advance and if the person being removed does not respond within that month they will be removed. 9.4 The Tip It Adminstration Team is defined as people on this list. This list has its own operating system which will not be detailed here.

Facebook seems to be rather much like Runescape, a lot of fun at first...and people do a lot of stuff...but slowly the reality dawns on you that you spent the last hour grinding on a game... Other than that, I am not terribly interested in what other people are up to.

I have never liked chain-mail...It is just email for the sake of emailing.

It is partly our own fault for constantly going off topic. :unsure: Well, we will just have to badger the Admin to make changes.

Then why didn't he fill in a complaint form and get it straightened out...

I like that, it gets the message across and is understandable but its not directly saying DON'T FLAME Sure looks like discussion to me...

Well, if he got banned then he should really fill in the form, rather than attacking the Admin in threads.

Mather, that isn't so(For me anyway). You just simply, and relentlessly, apply real world physics to the game, which can cause some level of difficulty, since moderators tend not to have unlimited time to check up on information. But ultimately you play the game quite well.

For reference: [hide] 03[19:35] * Edelweiss ([email protected]) has joined #space8 03[19:35] * Edelweiss ([email protected]) has left #space8 03[19:35] * Granzi ([email protected]) has joined #space8 [19:35] <Granzi> Hey, anyoen remember me? [19:36] <Granzi> [bleep] 03[19:36] * Granzi is now known as Edelweiss [19:36] <Edelweiss> lol. [19:37] <Edelweiss> Don't you remember [19:37] <Edelweiss> In hegemony [19:38] <Edelweiss> Sorry if this is advertising but if anyone wishes to play Dungeoneering [19:38] <Edelweiss> for twenty three minutes [19:38] <Edelweiss> http://forum.tip.it/topic/275133-dungeoneering/page__st__360 I'm hosting it [19:39] <Edelweiss> It has, create a bioform [19:39] <Edelweiss> and be on your way. [19:39] <Edelweiss> The body. [19:40] <Edelweiss> Ah, ok [19:41] <Edelweiss> The game looks AMAZING [19:42] <Edelweiss> FSH is a hormone used to inhibit the production of oestregen. [19:44] <Edelweiss> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa [19:44] <Edelweiss> HAHAHAHAHAHAHa [19:44] <Edelweiss> HAHAHA..... Its not that funny [19:45] <Edelweiss> Neither is your joke about the chair. [19:45] <Edelweiss> Theros, do you wish to join the Dungeoneering game, your a member already [19:45] <Edelweiss> and you are a vampire at present [19:46] <Edelweiss> who's floating a bit. 02[19:46] * Edelweiss ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Tip.It Java User) 03[19:57] * Unknown40390 ([email protected]) has joined #space8 [19:59] <Unknown40390> Is this still not on? [19:59] <Unknown40390> If so does anybody want to have a quick go at retrying my old version of dungeoneering? [19:59] <Unknown40390> If not I'll run with to. [19:59] <Unknown40390> *two [20:00] <Unknown40390> Yes but I'm asking anyway, captain obviousl. [20:02] <Unknown40390> hAS THIS STARTED? [20:02] <Unknown40390> Has this started? [20:02] <Unknown40390> Theres so much off topic discussion I can't tell who's meant to be talking. 03[20:03] * Unknown40390 is now known as edelweiss [20:04] <edelweiss> I need to register first [20:04] <edelweiss> I'm away, I'll read it after 03[20:05] * edelweiss is now known as Edelweiss|AFK [20:13] <Edelweiss|AFK> Just an idea, how about using /me commands when posting an act, that way it'll be coloured and easier [20:13] <Edelweiss|AFK> to see 06[20:13] * Edelweiss|AFK this is what happens when you use the /me command [20:13] <Edelweiss|AFK> Cooms? [20:13] <Edelweiss|AFK> Comms? 06[20:14] * Edelweiss|AFK communicates with ss kirby "yadda yadda yadda" [20:15] <Edelweiss|AFK> poor system, me should be used for everything. [20:16] <Edelweiss|AFK> I can never join, I've been watching and its to cofusing. [20:17] <Edelweiss|AFK> At least try. 02[20:18] * Edelweiss|AFK ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Tip.It Java User) 03[20:30] * Edelweiss ([email protected]) has joined #space8 03[20:31] * Edelweiss is now known as Unknown22399 [20:31] <Unknown22399> if this is what the tavern has amounted to I don't want to be a part of it. I came back for a couple of seconds and all I see is chaos, ununderstandable chaos. [20:31] <Unknown22399> So, I'm actually quitting this time [20:31] <Unknown22399> bye. 03[20:32] * notetaker sets mode: +b *!*@tipit-A3D4987A.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com [/hide] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12603519/Space/Logs/%23space8.Tip.It.log Advertising, Spamming and Quiting should, in my humble opinion, qualify for a ban.

Quit acting like you're some sort of authority here. We wanted those game stickied, and as far as I can tell you are the only one who didn't. Hex is the authority...he is the only person who ignores what everyone else says and then PMs the admin that there was agreement...and since the Admin probably don't have the time or inclination of search....or ask...other people, he has total power. We are all just hurt that we don't have any control over the forum we made and we have to deal with all of the changes that are made, while the Admin don't...How insensitive we are.[/sarcasm]

And the link?

Can you send me a link to your one please. There were alot of them, not all of them I played.

How Dungeoneering Evolved This diagram is simplified and should not be used for anything but demonstrative purposes.

Its fairly straight forward. I stole Role to Dodge from Songhoi. I used Role to Dodge to create Dungeoneering. I then gave Dungeoneering to Ross. Ross used Dungeoneering to create Ross Dungeoneering. Ross gave Ross Dungeoneering to Retech. Retech used Ross Dungeoneering to create Retech Dungeoneering. Various people took Retech, Ross or Original Dungeoneering and created their own games. Then I used Dungeoneering to create Space. Ross used Space to create Dungeoneering Version 6. Evolution at work...I will make a diagram.

I think he is confusing Retech's version with my version...which is what Dungeoneering is now.

I allowed loads of off topic on dungeoneering too... And you did this how...exactly?

Someone has been looking at my profile page :rolleyes: How, exactly? Did you take over Ross and post the new Dungeoneering... Space has between 11,000 and 44,000 words per session. If there are 20 words per post and 20 words per page, that is between 27.5 and 110 pages!

1. Hegemony VS Space, Dungeoneering 6 and HegeRomey. 2. Apart from those 2 new people that joined Space...Vs the Retech, who joined Hegemony. 3. Except Space...Vs...Silently nuking walls? 4.RPG, Walker and Grim Vs Nero, Doom and Grim. 5. Hex is Hex 6. Ross was inspired to do another Dungeoneering...Vs Hegemony...which never spawned one new game.

[hide] Del Boy': Oh, he was about average height. Grandad: He was a great big tall fella! Rodney: Oh, he was little more than a dwarf! Grandad: Age? Rodney: About 25. Grandad: Middle 50s! Del Boy: He was just a kid! DCI Roy Slater: What about his ethnic group? Del Boy: Well, I didn't notice anyone with him! DCI Roy Slater: No, I mean was he Caucasian? Grandad: No, he was a white fella! Rodney: He was African, I think! [/hide]

Middle Earth ftw? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arda