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According to Pies Rules: Mather is a man with no armour or weapons, Archi is a brick, Rocco is the city of detroit, Earth is a mental patient who thinks s/he is a ninja, Grim is a giant?

Just a note: 100 Kilometers of the UK being evacuated would be like the West and East Coasts of the United States evacuating...There would be some 80 million people by 2019, and space is already at a premium here. Doesn't really effect the story too much, but there it is.

I guess we are just waiting for Pies to come back to moderate on the designs...

With an inner core of Rubber, just incase someone decided to electrify me. :thumbsup: I'm pretty sure Aerogel is also not conductive. Though I have been thinking, and I might just go with a sphere of 9 meters radius, with 6 Microwave emiters focused in the 6 directions. I, of course, will be in the middle of these, with the power being supplied by my ego. :thumbup: There are also spars to hold me in place, made of carbon nanotubing. The Sphere itself is made of Aluminium Oxynitride. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxynitride Its kind of a rock, paper, sissors game isn't it...Gun beats sword, Sword beats leaf, Leaf beats Gun.

In which case, since I don't have weapons, I auto win, since I am technically the weakest...so any damage I do should be timed by infinaty...And seeing how it impossible to kill me without breaking the Tungsten Shell, releasing the steam, it is impossible to kill me without owning yourself....Only if you were totally naked with no hair could you say you had no armour, and thus become invunerable. Purified logic for the masses.

Right...So the principles of air cooling don't come into it then...With the barrels rotating at high speed. Or the elasticity of springs in the arm mounts.... Fundermentally guns and such are complicated to high hell. Amazing....No one ever doubted that sloped armour would be more effective against a bullet...But against heat and 6 tonnes of sustained force, sloped armour has no noticible effect. In any case less than 1 centimeter of steel(I think) doesn't prove anything about 20 centimeters of Tungsten... Based on what exactly? Running while shooting something with the recoil which can, supposedly, cut through 40 Centimeters of Titanium and 20 Centimeters of Tungsten...As well as a meter of water and 10 centimeter of rubber... Those guns, alone, would topple you over....Lets calculate shall we? Titanium has a tensile strength of 63,000 pounds per Square Inch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium There are 40 centimeters of Titanium, thats 15.748 Inches... So thats 15.748*63000 Which is 992,124 pounds, or 450 Tonnes. Now, according to http://members.aye.net/~bspen/math.html .55 Caliber bullets weight 250 grams. According to http://www.spanamwar.com/Gatling.htm A Gattling Gun weights 594 pounds or 269,433. Or 269 Kilos. According to http://zvis.com/dep/depa50.shtml A Desert Eagle has a muzzle velocity of 1,842 feet per second, or 561 meters per second. Thus, using the equation for recoil: mf*vf=mp*vp mf is the mass of the firearm vf is the velocity of the firearm immediately after firing mp is the mass of the projectile vp is the velocity of the projectile immediately after firing And then rearranging it to find velocity of the fire arm (mp*vp)/mf=vf (All in Grams and Meters of second) (250*561)/269,433= .52 Meters per second. You are firing 9: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_eagle per second, so thats 4.68 meters/second on you turret gun. Essentially half the force of gravity pushing you sideways, which needs to be absorbed. If you were going to do this via friction then your gun would fire much slower, if you were going to do it with springs then your accuracy would be terrible...not really a concern for hitting an 8 meters wide sphere but anyway. Anyway, the bullet would have a force of 250*561 Which is 140,250 grams, or 140 Kilos. Compared with 450 Tonnes of tensile strength, or 450,000 Kilos You would need to fire 3,215 bullets at the same exact spot to break though the Titanium layer... Considering though that firing 3,215 bullets at the same exact spot of a rapidly rotating sphere, would be like trying to squash a flea using all five fingers, I think I am fairly safe from your small gun. Now, your larger gun. 2.20 Caliber bullets don't seem to exist anywhere that I can find. Assuming they are 2.20 Inches long though, then they would weight 1 Kilogram. 250/.55 454.54 454.54*2.20 1000 So, using the same recoil format: (1000*561)/269433 You would produce 2.03 Meters per second of recoil. 1/5 of Earths gravity. Assuming you fired 3 per second then you would have the same amount of recoil as your other gun(well higher actually) and cumulatively work out as roughly the same as gravity. By the way, assuming you jumped horizontally, the force that gravity exerted on you, would be same as the force pressing against you when firing your guns... It would be like being in freefall... Anyway. They develop: 561,000 Grams of force, which would be 561 Kilos. So it would take you 803 shots to break though the armour...if, again, you fired at the exact same spot. Of course all of this is ignoring the Tungsten outer coating, which would provide 50,000(At 1,000 Degrees C) pounds per square inch...So thats 7.874 Inches of armour so 393,700 pounds or 178.58 Tonnes So even penetrating the outer layer with your 2.20 Inch caliber bullets would take 319 bullets, in exactly the same space... So it would be a long attritional battle, which I would innevitably win, because I would get close to you and spray you with steam...or you would break though my tungsten layer and fill the room with steam, kept warm by my electric heaters not stopping...eventually boiling you alive. Comparatively you have a small chance of winning if we were outside Though if that happened I would roll away and hide somewhere, and strike when you least expected, turning most of the heaters off to conserve power. I don't know where this idea comes from...We breath liquid for 9 months of our lives(Well no, less than that...and we don't breath it, we just have it in our lungs)

Based on what exactly? Based on? Ah yes...because obvouisly using more than one jet in tandem would be impossible... If you are refering to the hole you made, then the energy taken to get it moving would be conserved, since it will come back round again...But energy will be wasted. Video was what, exactly? Someone shooting 2 bullets though a gas canister and 2 bullets bouncing off a gas canister... Also, I think its fairly reasonable to assume that your guns will have been destroyed by recoil after 3 or 4 seconds... All in all your idea is looking less and less credible by the second. Little trick...keep things simple. My idea, very simple, not much to poke holes in...your idea, mind boggling complicated, and thus very easy to screw up. Anyway, lectures. Toodle pip.

Such an epic fail of a warning...why would I jump when I am in a 6 tonne object.. Great...So you are going to rupture my outer lay and spray the whole area with 1,000 degree steam. I would escape to safety by the escaping gas, while you would have your weapons seize up and cook you. Steam Jets and low friction ball.... Verses a tonnes with legs...

O...k So now that you are immobile it will be a simple matter of cooking you. Also 3 Centimeters is still nowhere near strong enough to support 6 tonnes... And those videos did nothing to argue your case...you find a video of a desert eagle shooting through a tank and I will be worried, otherwise...

Ah yes, I remember it well 'Sir, we have lost Paris' 'Deploy the nukes' 'Sir?' 'Deploy them' 'But sir, the French people!' 'I am not letting Aether profit from their invasion!' 'But the mod said we would get them back in 5 years' 'NUKE THEM' 'Sir I must object; 'Right where is the button?' 'Sir!' 'Are you still here? Good, go to the nearest prison and get me a psychopath, I need a new minister of war...all of you standing around telling me what I can't do, how about some action!'

One of us didn't think that through :rolleyes: Clearly...Considering you have 40 centimeters of Titanium and 20 centimeters of Tungsten to get though. As well as meter of water. Considering that a German Tiger II had 18 Centimeters of Steel, and 17 pound guns(76.2 mm) were required to shoot though that... I have very little to worry about from your 14 mm(.55 Inches) punt guns. No idea what AE is supposed to me...Armour Piercing or Anti-Personal.... I imagine but clearly that doesn't fit... HE might work, as High Explosive.... Armour Explosive doesn't really make any sense...since someting can't penetrate and explode on contact....it would be oxymoronic. So 55 millimeters...well it might get through my Tungsten outcoating...some how I doubt it would get much further than that. Hmmm, its seeming to be more and more likely to be anti-personal....which means I am going to have a dented Tungsten Sphere...oh the shame... Lets think about this... 30 Milimeters of Titanium/Tungsten...supporting around 5 Tonnes...Hmmm I think I can safely say my ball of doom will crush your armour and you inside it.

Character: Archarnis Armour: The Intra-Bloggo-Net-Info-Sphere Weapon: The Intra-Bloggo-Net-Info-Super-Highway Basically, a body sized mould at the heart of it, suspended in fluorocarbons, surrounding this a void packed with Silica Aerogel. (2 meters) Encasing this is a large sphere of Solid Rubber (10 Centi-Meters) Encasing this is a large sphere of solid Titanium (10 Centi-Meters) Encased in a sphere of vacuum, with eighteen spars connecting the before and after.(30 Centi-Meters) Encasing that is another sphere of Titanium.(30 Centi-Meters) Encasing that is a sphere of water, which has 500, Graphene coated, electric heaters, taking the temperatures up to 1,000 degrees C.(1 Meter) Encasing that is a sphere of Tungsten, with a bumped surface, along with release valves for the steam/water.(20 Centi-Meters) Total diameter should be 8 meters. Plan of attack: Hunt down Mather, regardless of what is going on in the Arena. Tehe

I guess the major flaw would be that no one here present would ever make it to controlling a county....Realism took a major whack there, possible exception og Dusty in a peaceful mood. Anyway, Bio weapons are fine, as long as the users don't act like berks. Total war with genocide is what makes the game fun. Two moderators is a mjaor flaw...Sere is just too weak willed, all you lot have to do is scream how unfair it is that things didn't go exactly according to plan and he changes things... <_< Munchkinism is perfectly fine....the only problem is that some people(Retech) don't know how to win....Generally speaking you win by crushing your enemies, not by destroying the planet, yourself and your enemies in a blaze of super glory which means no one actually won, but you managed to kill the most people.. Like saying the Nazis won World War Two.... Switzerland begins work on the Intra-Sphere.

Such as, generally we only do what we are asked to do =)

And then we all 'Offically' ignored that post. The game is semi-dead...coma like...

What do you mean?

Nah, its a fair critism. I think there might be a fault between the rules stated and the restrictions stated... I will ask the admin to look into it.

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Not as far as I am aware... Which rules does it break?

Well since Moderators don't read people's private messages there is no way for us to enforce it. Though I would like to think that people would not contravene the rules in ant circumstances.

Please don't post websites such as those mentioned. Tip It has a policy against this.

Its possible, if unlikely, that was all I was saying....

[quote name='grimdeath283' date='23 November 2009 - 05:43 PM' timestamp='1258994589' post='3980107'] IMMA CHARGIN MALAYSIA! [/quote]

Hehe.

Meh, 60 years is 'no problems, or if there are they are documented' 40 years is 'probably no problems' 20 years is 'We can safely say there are no problems' 10 years is 'It is unlikely there are any problems' 5 years is 'There may be problems, but there probably arn't' 1 year is 'Problems may exist but we have not yet seen them' Mather, what does God being freshwater have to do with anything at all? It is an Atlantic dwelling fish, unless your seaweed is going to be somehow segrated from the Atlantic Ocean your point makes no sense. Further more cross breeding is not the only way for genes to be shared between animals. Something as simple as a bacteria or virus could transfer genes from plant A to animal B. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgene http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_protein Essentially you are playing with something with trillions of variables, and a trillion to the trillionth power of possible consquences.(Actually far larger, when you take into account the bacteria, viruses and all that you are probably looking at a trillion raised to the power of a trillion, raised to the power of a trillion again) Its not so bad when you are producing something for human consumption, since humans are not eaten by much, and if things start going wrong they are much easier to control. Stuff released on land is much more difficult to control, hence requires more testing. Stuff released in the sea is near impossible to control...if something goes wrong then that is it...There is no way to undo it afterwards because the sea is so vast. Genetic Engineering is not commonplace, nor is it sensible to assume that it would become common place in the near future, exactly because of how little we actually know about ourselves, the animals around us and the world in general...Yes we have the human Genome, but we very little idea about what genes do what, if anything. Without extensive and exaustive testing its like throwing a dart at a dart board, backwards, from 100 meters, and expecting to hit the bullseye....All of our progress has merely reduced the 90 mile per hour winds which blow the darts off course. I once calculated that it would take from 2003 to 2083 to analyse the human genome, using the brute force method of putting a marker against each string of genes, activating them, then observing the results. That is, of course, assuming instant results or a rolling program of results...so it might take as long as 2143(+60) before the human genome was completely mapped. And of course that does not include longer strings of genes, so the whole program would probably take much longer than the 140 years estimated here. Though advancing technology might make this somewhat easier, there is no real way to narrow it down beyond about 50 years: This was assuming that you had a team of 2,000 genetists, working without any ethically quibbles, and of course no disasters occuring.