Awhile back, I tried out some DHTML collapsible menus but found that collapsible menus are worth it only when a side frame is used. I highly discourage any useage of collapsible frames. Unless of course tipit gets a slight javascript/css makeover. [Advanced Tech Jargon] I would recommend that the top tipit logo is used in an absolute css element which would float at the top of the browser window. The menus would float too but when a category is hovered over, its menu elements would be shown and others would be hidden. [/Advanced Tech Jargon] For those less tech savy, I am suggesting that the framework on the left and top of the page not move when you scroll up and down. This would better allow for collapsible menus. Instead of this: You get this: And as you hover over one of the categories, its elements would pop out like this (Tools used as hover element)