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As compared to not believing in any...the odds are 0. Evolution already has no evolutionary transitional fossils. The Miller-Urey experiment has already been refuted for itscombination of amino acids to proteins... What more evidence do you need to not believe in evolution? Just because an experiment has been refuted doesn't mean the entire theory is wrong...

It scares me. It's a good thing Christianity doesn't teach that one screw up means eternal damnation. :roll: Exactly. Christianity teaches us that we WILL screw up. It accepts the fact that we're all a bunch of losers and that God accepts us anyways :P Close, but not exactly. They are polymers in the sense that the same *order* of amino acids repeats, but your normal polymer is (of course) made up of monomers. In fuel chains, a monomer is very very simple, an alkane (or any hydrocarbon). But in the protein's case, the monomer is the specific chain of 20 amino acids in a specific order. They are of different complexity, IMO, but it's really a non-issue.

They beat Edmonton in double overtime :( I was going for Edmonton, but when you only get half the shots of the opposing team, losing is expected.

As you both go to school in the same province, that makes sense :P

Is it because they're full of Finnish players? :P Just joking, Turco's got alot to prove though.

Who do you hope does well? Any predictions? I'm guessing either Ottawa vs. San Jose for the cup, or Ottawa vs. Calgary for the cup. Of course the playoffs won't be as exciting without goals like this from our rookie sensations But oh well! I'm pumped for 'em, anyone else?

Okay, you can expect to pay alot of money for residence food :S

I never said mine didn't. If you'll look at one of my above posts, I readily accepted the fact that both of our viewpoints were circular, and that there was no way around it because it always boils down to our metaphysical beliefs. You're the one that pressed the issue, so I needed to restate the fact. Okay, this is something I can agree with, and was trying to conclude. It just wouldn't come out for some reason. Okay, it's "just as good". Now who's right? Aren't long fuel chains just chains of the exact same molecule (alkane?)? A protein would be a group of different amino acids - I'm just curious is you can show how the let's say, 20, that make up a simple protein have a reason to just react with each other apart from making up a protein? I'm not saying it's an argument against you, I'm just curious. I don't even know what your premise is, and what your conclusion is anymore because they both look exactly the same to me that I can't pick them apart.

I thought we already established that your theory assumed itself. Certainly that is a large assumption! It doesn't matter what it is based on - it still assumes itself, and thus leaves it completely fallacious.

Gotcha, it's begging the question either way you look at it. Funny how almost all arguments end up boiling down to our personal, unprovable, irrefutable metaphysical beliefs. (and how we're able to exercise each option before actually doing so :P)

(Insert Anesthesia's post here which would take up alot of space if I quoted it). The whole problem with your post is that it deals with theoretical infinites. I'd like to see a mathematician write out an infinite number of numbers. It's not possible, it wouldn't fit in the universe. Not even if it were stored on blue-ray :P. Just like an infinite amount of time is comprehendable in theory, it is not possible in actuality. Isn't that circular reasoning? Your conclusion assumes your premise? (Conclusion:) an infinite amount of time must have passed (Premise:) there has never been a beginning of time, time is always passing These two assume each other.

Are you going to a Canadian university, more specifically, one in Ontario?

Not impossible, improbable. What you crazy theists don't seem to understand the concept that time is infinite. It's so alarmingly egocentric to think that a world was created JUST for us, just as egocentric as thinking that the sun revolves around the earth. With INFINITE time before us it is not only possible for that situation to occur, it is impossible for it NOT to occur. Intelligent design proponents seem think that there must have been a start to everything - well that's just ludicrous. To suggest that there was an ultimate start to everything suggests that there was a nothingness before. If there was a nothingness before, what caused that nothingness? What came before it? They propose that god caused it, but who caused god? If god was never caused and is infinitely old then was was he doing before he caused everything? It has more holes in it than swiss cheese and just screams about the lesser man's need to think he is the centre of the universe. There's a few inconsistencies here. 1.) God is uncaused by definition. Sure, it seems convenient, but things are often convenient because they are true. 2.) If time is infinite, then an infinite amount of time had to have happened before this moment. This is impossible, since an infinite amount of time can never pass. 3.) While the Big Bang might not denote the beginning of time, it denotes the beginning of the possibility of a cell to "evolve", meaning that there hasn't been an inifinite amount of time for the necessary amino acids to collide to form a protein. After the 20 amino acids combine, there still needs to be a bunch of proteins colliding simultaneously to form a cell. Which would mean.... The flaw is that molecular reactions of 4th order aren't even talked about because they are considered impossible. NOT "almost impossible", straight up impossible. Not improbable, rather impossible.

Illegal activities aren't allowed to be discussed here.

Indeed. And the chances of these things coming together at the same time, are very rare. Chemical kinetics is a field of chemistry that involves how fast reactions proceed, and reaction orders are determined by the Molecularity of the reaction. 0, 1st, and 2nd order reactions are quite possible, 3rd order are rare (3 molecules colliding simultaneously), and anything above 3 molecules colliding is (for now, said to be) impossible.

In my (one year of) experience, and looking on to year two and three, we go a little further than skim the surface, but you're generally the same as me - dozens of topics, but you don't go too far into any of them. For instance, there's an oracle/database course I can take second year, but after that, there's nothing more about it I can take in third/fourth year. This isn't surprising seeing as it's a university and not a college, though.

Centuramage has it all down I think, except I know here in Canada you can expect to pay a TON for campus food - it's robbery. You can expect to pay up to $3.50 for a tiny slice of pizza - and dorm meals go for $12 - it's all you can eat, but still, $12 a meal? And against Centuramage, I'd advise not to binge drink or go to too many parties - I've seen so many students do this and end up dropping out as a result. University is deceitful that way - it gives you so much free time that you end up not using any of it.

I read a bit about Behe's book Darwin's Black Box - it doesn't really support intelligent design. I read the first few couple chapters (couldn't get through it all, 'twas too advanced scientifically for me), and Behe was saying that intelligent design wasn't based on any decent evidence, and he said that evolution was the same way.

http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=55

Don't bump old threads.

It's great the first time you see it, but after that, it gets old. Also - if you've been hyped up for it by other people you won't enjoy it - it's a film you need to go into without expectations.

Guess I'm just ignorant then, beating both single players and playing hours of multiplayer on both :P

Mind telling me why? Just curious, that's all :) I don't see much of a difference between the two.

I don't understand. How can snapping a cd in half accomplish anything? It's not like Bungie is going to go "Ow, that hurt. Guess we screwed up." I enjoy playing halo2 with my friends. We get into it and we have a good time. I can't complain about that, and I never will. Halo2 is fine. And breaking it is pointless.

Now I smell like dirt and weeds from working in the fields all day. And I smell like sunburn, if anyone knows what I'm talking about.