I never thought they were that special, pretty ordinary actually :-# i like N.W.A., system of a down, bliss N Eso and Rise Against. EDIT: almost forgot Butterfingers #-o a great Aussie alternate/hip-hop group But i really dont stick to a specific genre. You say they're not special? How many of their songs have you heard? They defined the East Coast along with Biggie and Mobb Deep in the '90s, and were a group of nine, the largest major rap group at the time. They were all very diverse, and they used this as an advantage to reach out to a huge audience. If it wasn't for them, there wouldn't be a Method Man, ODB, or Redman, etc. and the East Coast would've been seen a lot differently then they were and are now. Plus, their piano loops and beats are some of the best in rap, I think the only beats better then theirs are Dre's beats (Of course :D ). Sorry to go on and on about it, but you were just really wrong when you said that... and they're down with RATM aswell