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Meh think I'll just go 45 def to simplify things. Cool to have the literal max strength gear anyway. Even if you dont want to use a zerker helm - 1 or 2 combat levels, even in edge, really isn't as important as jagex's RNG dicerolls...

If you're going 41 def, get 42 for training with void...

I think you'd be a lot more satisfied with a zerker moving up to 70 defence when you're high enough strength. I maxed a 60 attack 1 def pure a while ago, and while it is fun to play - unless you're really good at bridding or are heavily involved in the pure clan war scene then it does get tiring and you get jealous of all the cool stuff people with defence get to do... If i was you i'd get your str and range up to 70 real quick and just pk til you get bored - then start a new account to be a zerker. That way you can still hop on your pure for some quick fun whilst you're waiting to completey gear your zerker with all the untradables.

Enfeeble lol

This is actually the only update I'm eager for.

Can't believe that people have been debating range tanks and using edge fights as examples... That's like saying obby maul pures are awful because they get rolled at mage bank.

They aren't THAT bad, but they are slowish - However very afkable... I timed it to like 2 and a half mins for him to smelt an invent of balls, set a timer off for each load and just wrote coursework...

I disagree. The lower defense players can't kill the enemies so shouldn't be assigned them. They aren't gaining anything from this. Do you think players should be assigned cave horrors who have not completed the quest to access them? It's the same thing, isn't it? Not really, no. Cave horrors require a quest. 5 def doesn't require any quests. You obviously wouldn't get assigned infernal mages with 10 slayer. But if you had 45, you wouldn't get assigned them if you didn't do priest in peirl. Why are level and quest requirements different? Both are a goal a player could get but doesn't necessarily have to. Both have nothing to do with the slayer skill as a whole and have no right to completely disable a player from training it. My biggest objection is that it's literally impossible to even attempt killing wall beasts with 1 defense. Cockatrices and basilisks are very very difficult/annoying to kill without mirror shield (20 defense) but at least you CAN do it. If going to tureal wasn't an option I would have been forced to remain 40 slayer forever because I choose to play in a certain style that is unrelated to the slayer skill. It's quite clearly an oversight made by jagex that was patched in the main game once they realized the mistake. "i dont have 40 attack but i want to wield a rune scimmy. change it so i just need 40 str" I agree that it is an oversight, as you NEED to have 5 def to kill them, and there is no other way to do that, but the mentality of not being able to access everything as a pure who limits oneself to 1 def or 1 pray is quite ignorant. No. He doesn't want to kill them, he wants stop being assigned tasks that are literally impossible to complete with his current levels. The whole point of slayer, the different masters, monsters of differing difficulty divisions (alliteration yo) etc, is to progress as your skills progress...

I don't think that rares are a 'necessity' for 07scape as a complete game - Many people don't care about the aquisition of ultra-wealth, and will play and have fun regardless. However they may be a necessity for people like this threads op, whos goal appears to be the aquisition of ultra-wealth, to enjoy 07scape - So what's the problem with having them? How would their existence negatively impact the players who don't care for them? I'd rather everyone have an aspect of 07 that they really enjoy, and keep the playerbase as large as possible - Than deny people the things that really makes them tick, without seriously valid reasons...

Happy April first all ;)

Yep, membership expired just at the end of the month so there was no money in the bank when it auto renewed, thus payment bounced and members expired, but I can still play osrs. Pretty sweet, shame you missed out, that pesky auto-renew. Now watch me get bank charges for the bounced direct debit. ;)

wait, if you let your membership run out it removes you from the hiscores? No, my memberships expired and i'm just using the free march month before re-subbing and i'm still on the OS highscores... Maybe it'l change after the free month though... I dunno what free month means but if you have access to p2p content under the free month then I'm sure that would include hiscores... Which shows nothing if F2P players remain on the highscores. Anyone who voted on the poll gets 'free' access to OSR no matter their P2P status until the end of march. My membership expired but I cant still play OSR, just not EOC. My character is still on the EOC highscores also...

wait, if you let your membership run out it removes you from the hiscores? No, my memberships expired and i'm just using the free march month before re-subbing and i'm still on the OS highscores... Maybe it'l change after the free month though...

Hmm so what does work well at low levels? Even stats? Inefficient to try and make my tank into a staking toon on the side then? Do you estimate more people will start mage boxing and range staking later on when everyone's leveled a bit more? If not then a fresh alt I suppose... Hedgehog that program looks very useful, thanks.

Aside from small stake dds pure matches, I've never taken staking seriously before and I'd like to give it a go. My current stats are below in my sig, but i'm building a range tank - Because i've never played one before and i've made most of the other common PK builds. I know the best way to learn is to do - But I'm afraid trial and error may be costly when playing for high stakes - And i'd assume the gameplay, techniques and builds required between high stake matches and low stake funning is incomparable? Now, realisticly I know next to nothing about staking - So if anyone with a bit more know than me has the time to help, i've a few questions: 1) I've heard that good stakers have high attack and defence but relatively low strength - As i'm building a range tank, is it feasable to level my attack and str to just below the point where they affect my combat level and still be a competative staker? I used a calculator and figured that when my account is 85 range/mage 70 defence and 45 prayer, I can get 70 attack and 57 strength and stay at the top of 83 combat. Is that viable for melee staking along side range staking? 3) What equipment works best for melee staking? Or should I box? 4) Range staking - What happens? Just get high range and def? Equipment? 5) Mage staking - What happens? Just get high mage and def? Equipment? 6) I've heard that almost all stakers turn prayer off, so it's a waste of cb levels for staking - How badly will this effect me? 7) Heard a lot of bad things about people DDoSing and glitching in the duel arena - How common really is this? Tips to avoid becoming a victim? Now I know range tanks aren't for edge anyway and so combat level really isn't as important as getting a ton of range and defence for deep, but meh it's still concerning me... Thanks in advance for any replies.

Made me laugh, too true hah. I don't even skype on rs, though I would do on other mmo's. Would probably use vent or ts if I joined a clan I liked...

Lmao. I need to get on that staking gravy train. Any tips?

Just a random tip I stumbled on: When doing RFD you need to make a dirty blast from scratch. To save time on walking over to the gnome area on new accounts - save the blast you get as a reward for doing digsite quest. You can just add ashes to this, instead of making a blast from scratch. Obviously not quicker if you weren't going to do digsite anyway... but why wouldn't you. :)

I don't understand the allure of pvm,the whole debate bores me. But I'd be more than happy if you put a couple of gwd bosses on each world, randomly wandering the wilderness rev style. That interests me.

Less raw materials being farmed means that the value of resources goes up, making skills more profitable and worth while.... How is that `out of wack` ?

Patched?

Nice whip :3 Sharks hurrah.

I hope not, I hate the idea of daily tasks as a gameplay design.

Did they make treasure trail bots? I love tt's.

Initial thought is no GWD because: I don't like the effect of GS on PvP. I don't like the idea of strong melee weapon updates without corresponding mage and range options. I don't think I like the idea of GWD being the best moneymaker, but i'm not too sure. I never understand players fascination with PvE or PvM - Seems awfully dull to me. But likewise does nat crafting or magic chopping so i'm undicided - I've always been able to find a way to make money that interests me and accomplishes one or more of my xp goals, even if its not the fastest method. All I want to do is pay for pk invents... But I wont vote until the last minute because i'd like to hear all the options and opinions first...