Agreed, chris. Honestly, Axe Man, I expected better out of you. I didn't have you pegged as a "take your ball and go home" type. Sure, don't sell your little whips for less than 5000k, but you're gonna be really sorry when a better weapon comes out and whips take a nose-dive. It'll happen eventually, or else RS2 will end. Either way, you've accomplished nothing. "Unskilled Market Watcher" is laughable. I hate to tell you, my friend, but 99% of people who own a whip are "unskilled," because they can't get one on their own. Don't break your arm patting yourself on your back, Mister High and Mighty. Cmon folks, get outta diapers. I honestly don't care how hard you worked to get to 85 slayer, you can't change market forces. You can drum your heels as much as you want, but you might as well wish gravity was gone. You say you spent lots of cash getting there? Your fault - Jagex isn't going to pat you on the back and give you a free partyhat set because you spent lots of money. It annoys me that super weapon poison has practically become unsellable due to huge supply. Am I gonna whine or rant about it? No. I missed the boat by not being 82 herblore and 70 farming a few months ago. That's life. Whips are non-consumable (barring idiots who alch theirs or die with no looters around), and more enter the game every day. Yeah, more people get to 70 attack daily too, but not only slayers sell whips. Merchants have NOTHING to do with the price drop. Everyone wants to blame merchants for everything from prices going DOWN to prices going UP. Get a better scapegoat - using the merchant card makes you look like a lobotomy patient. What we're seeing is the market trying to find an eqilibrium price. Guess what, you don't get to set that price. Everyone has a little bit of a say. The whip is really worth... guess what.... what people are willing to PAY for it. Not what you say, not what the alch value is, not what the magic 8 ball says. You want prices to go up? Fine. That's understandable. But barring a drop rate reduction (which some say has already come), the long term trend is down. Get with the program. I really can't feel sorry for your rich tail, AMJ. I really can't. I really figured you were more than a spoiled brat.