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  1. Is Marxism in the modern world outdated? NO Marxism and morden day communism has just simply chang and disgust it self. Today Marxism and Communism wear's the Mask of environmentalism and Global Warming. Ture they are some environmentalism groups out there that are not Communists, but many of them have been taken over by Communists that are using the Environmentalism cause for the Communists agenda. That agenda now seems to be is bringin the post industrial age. enforcing Carbon Taxe's on evil pollution, and Carbon emissions. Limiting the amount of goods a small factory that can't afford Carbon credits can make, even run out of business. Imposing New Green law's that control every thing a person can or can't do. Can or can't own land.Even forceing the person to live in a certan type of house becuse it's Green Freindly from the house they all ready live in. Inculding One child policy's, just like china has. Why? Becuse of Global Warming, and over poplation.
  2. You can send a message to your elected leaders here about this. They have untill August 15 to stop the Executive Order becoming law. It does not matter if your old anothe to vote or not. You still can send your elected leaders, Senators and Representatives messages telling them to work towards stoping the Executive Order becoming law. Just click on the link, click on the Elected Officials, click on your state,click on the Senators and Representatives , click on Send message, Compose Your Own Letter , Issue Area: Judiciary, put in the Subject of the message, such President Bush's new Executive Order. Than type in your message, fill out the forum and you can send your message to them. You need to do this more than once since you be sending messages one at a time for each Senator and Represntative. If you do, don't use nasty word's,curse words, such has the F word, or things like that. http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm
  3. In one of his most chilling moves to date against his own citizens, the American War Leader has issued a sweeping order this week outlawing all forms of protest against the Iraq war. President Bush enacted into US law an ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâExecutive Order̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ on July 17th titled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq", and which says: "By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004." According to Russian legal experts, the greatest concern to the American people are the underlying provisions of this new law, and which, they state, are written ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâso broadly̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ as to outlaw all forms of protest against the war. These provisions state: "(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or (B) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person. © the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States. All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order and, where appropriate, to advise the Secretary of the Treasury in a timely manner of the measures taken." To the subsection of this new US law, according to these legal experts, that says "...the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit...", the insertion of the word ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâservices̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ has broad, and catastrophic, consequences for the American people in that any act deemed by their government to be against the Iraqi war is, in fact, supporting the ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâenemy̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ and therefore threatens the ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâstabilization of Iraq̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢. In an even greater affront to the American people are the provisions of a law called The Patriot Act, and that should they run afoul of this new law they are forbidden to allow anyone to know about it, and as we can read as reported by the Seattle Times News Service: "The [Patriot] act also expands the use of National Security Letters, which are a kind of warrant that the Justice Department writes for itself, authorizing its agents to seize such things as records of money movements, telephone calls and Internet visits. Recipients of a National Security Letter are not allowed to tell anyone about them, and so cannot contest them." It is interesting to note, too, that this is not the first time that the United States has unleashed the brutal power of their government against its citizens to further their war aims and stifle domestic dissent, as during the European conflict of World War I they enacted a law called The Sedition Act of 1918 and which "...forbade Americans to use "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, flag, or armed forces during war." It is curious to note that after the enactment of this new law there has been no protest by any of the other political leaders in the United States, with the exception of the only Muslim member of the United States Congress, Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison, and who compared President Bush to the Nazi War Leader Adolph Hitler by stating the attacks upon the World Trade Center could be likened to the burning of the Reichstag. Today, as the United States faces an imminent economic collapse, while at the same time its war bill has reached the staggering amount of $648 billion, one of the last freedoms the American people have had to protest their leaders actions against them, and other peoples in the World, has now been taken away from them, the freedom to speak and write in opposition to what is being done to them. "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.", said the great British writer George Orwell, but, and sadly, liberty has been lost to the once free people of the United States who are no longer allowed to tell their leaders, or each other, what they don̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t want to hear. With this being so, the American people should, likewise, contemplate their ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãânew̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ future, and as, also, stated best by George Orwell, "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1023.htm You can send a message to your elected leaders here about this if you really want to. http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm You can read it at the Whitehouse' own website. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 717-3.html
  4. come this November the Federal Government might let the states start charging taxes on the internet, inculding E-mial tax.
  5. It's not good, sure you probley have no problem with that. The fact is, the North American Union will end America has an free independent nation, also Candada's and Mexico's independence. American's will not have the Bill of Right's under the North American Union. The formation of the European Union (EU) is the 'blueprint' being used to construct the North American Union (NAU). In an act of tyranny, our government is illegally creating the NAU by using secret meetings and deceptive double-speak to hide their pernicious, TREASONOUS, INCREMENTAL STEALTH. They are making MASSIVE changes to our bureaucratic-administratic-regulatory laws by calling them 'HARMONIZATIONS.' What they are doing is re-writing our legal regulatory law to the benefit OF, BY, and FOR the corporate elite plutocracy. The only difference between the creation of the EU and the NAU is that it took 55 years for the European free trade agreement to morph into the EU. Unless we can stop them, they will accomplish the NAU here in a BREATHTAKING 15 years. The One World Monopolists have already declared before our Congress, that our borders are to be eliminated by 2010. Are you ready for that? This research will clearly demonstrate what has been created under the EU is EXACTLY what they want to impose upon our Constitutional Republic. How do we know? Because the One World Monopolists have boldly announced their intentions. Dr. Robert A. Pastor, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), "told the Trilateral Commission in 2002 that the North American Union needed to implement a series of political proposals which would have authority OVER the sovereignty of the United States, Canada and Mexico pecifically, Pastor called for the creation of North American passports and a North American Customs and Immigrations, which would have authority OVER U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) within the Department of Homeland Security. A North American Parliamentary Group would OVERSEE the U.S. Congress. A Permanent Court on Trade and Investment would resolve disputes within NAFTA, exerting FINAL AUTHORITY OVER judgments of the U.S. Supreme Court. A North American Commission would 'develop an integrated continental plan for transportation and infrastructure'."(1) Their audacious treason knows no bounds! What 'Political Proposals' REALLY Mean . . . It means that the 'leaders' of three sovereign nations can gather at a 'round table' and sign the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) agreement which will implement all the concepts outlined by the CFR, WITHOUT the required Constitutionally mandated, Congressional consent, oversight, or transparency. Political proposals means that three politicians get together and clandestinely agree to use the power of their elected office to unilaterally create the North American Union with no intention of allowing any legislative involvement or permission from We the People. That is, by any measure . . . TREASON! Those 'heads of state' are part of a cabal that includes the former corporatist robber barons, who control the banks, the media and the non-profit foundations such as the Carnegie, Ford, and Rockefeller (CFR). They constitute a Shadow Government of One World Monopolists who control our government by wielding their immense financial wealth and its associated power. They are operating behind the scenes in collusion with many in high places in our government, military, and corporate world. Their goal is to destroy our Constitutional Republic, usurp our sovereignty and irrevocably alter our lives. They plan to turn North America into a totalitarian state ruled by a corporate plutocracy -- a totalitarian government, OF the wealthy, BY the wealthy, and FOR the wealthy. The first public mention of their illegal plans was made by the 'leaders' of Mexico, Canada and America on March 23, 2005 in Waco, Texas. Those three traitors of their respective nations, held meetings at Baylor University, and SIGNED a European Union styled pact called the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America. Since then, our 'Chief Executive' has commanded ALL of the departments in the Executive Branch to form 'task forces,' agendas, goals and meet timetables for completion. Their task is to rewrite MANY of our regulatory laws covering every conceivable topic you can imagine relating to our daily lives. They operate behind closed doors in secret meetings to advance their goal of 'HARMONIZING' ALL of our bureaucratic or administrative regulatory laws, between the three countries, by altering them to their benefit. Since Waco, our government has lied about having signed the SPP agreement. Their dirty deed was barely reported in the media. There was little to no follow-up reporting by the corrupt, monopolized and controlled corporate media. Just think of all those endless hours of drivel on the news about Anna Nichole Smith, or Michael Jackson, or O J Simpson, or Natalie Holloway, or Gary Condit of Chandra Levy infamy, and yet barely a peep about the single most devastating plan to eliminate our sovereignty and end America as we know it. Because of the complicit media, We the People are left completely in the dark. For the most part, we have no idea that our country is already being run by an unelected and un-accountable elite plutocracy. Just think about it . . . a 'Shadow Government' and their complicit cabal, were able to direct the launching of the NAU as a political proposal signed by three men who were the duly elected leaders from three sovereign countries. Our Constitution says that such agreements are to be subjected to Congressional oversight and approval. The SPP is a Trojan Horse based on the EU blueprint of massive 'harmonized' and ILLEGAL regulatory changes, using incremental stealth, all with the intent of destroying our Constitutional Republic.
  6. Two years after Canada signed into the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), an all party parliamentary committee held public hearings on the matter. The SPP was signed by former Liberal Prime Minister Paul Martin in March 2005 and is essentially the frame work for a North American Union. NDP Trade Critic Peter Julian said, ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅCanadians should know that the SPP process supports a North American Union.̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ
  7. North American union plan headed to Congress in fall Powerful think tank prepares report on benefits of integration between U.S., Mexico, Canada A powerful think tank chaired by former Sen. Sam Nunn and guided by trustees including Richard Armitage, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Harold Brown, William Cohen and Henry Kissinger, is in the final stages of preparing a report to the White House and U.S. Congress on the benefits of integrating the U.S., Mexico and Canada into one political, economic and security bloc. The final report, published in English, Spanish and French, is scheduled for submission to all three governments by Sept. 30, according to the Center for Strategic & International Studies. CSIS boasts of playing a large role in the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement in 1994 ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ a treaty that set in motion a political movement many believe resembles the early stages of the European Community on its way to becoming the European Union. "The results of the study will enable policymakers to make sound, strategic, long-range policy decisions about North America, with an emphasis on regional integration," explains Armand B. Peschard-Sverdrup, director of CSIS' Mexico Project. "Specifically, the project will focus on a detailed examination of future scenarios, which are based on current trends, and involve six areas of critical importance to the trilateral relationship: labor mobility, energy, the environment, security, competitiveness and border infrastructure and logistics." The data collected for the report is based on seven secret roundtable sessions involving between 21 and 45 people and conducted by CSIS. The participants are politicians, business people, labor leaders and academics from all three countries with equal representation. All of this is described in a CSIS report, "North American Future 2025 Project." "The free flow of people across national borders will undoubtedly continue throughout the world as well as in North America, as will the social, political and economic challenges that accompany this trend," says the report. "In order to remain competitive in the global economy, it is imperative for the twenty-first century North American labor market to possess the flexibility necessary to meet industrial labor demands on a transitional basis and in a way that responds to market forces." As WND reported last week, the controversial "Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007," which would grant millions of illegal aliens the right to stay in the U.S. under certain conditions, contains provisions for the acceleration of the Security and Prosperity Partnership, a plan for North American economic and defense integration with remarkable similarities to the CSIS plan. The bill, as worked out by Senate and White House negotiators, cites the SPP agreement signed by President Bush and his counterparts in Mexico and Canada March 23, 2005 ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ an agreement that has been criticized as a blueprint for building a European Union-style merger of the three countries of North America. "It is the sense of Congress that the United States and Mexico should accelerate the implementation of the Partnership for Prosperity to help generate economic growth and improve the standard of living in Mexico, which will lead to reduced migration," the draft legislation states on page 211 on the version time-stamped May 18, 2007 11:58 p.m. Since agreement on the major provisions of the bill was announced late last week, a firestorm of opposition has ignited across the country. Senators and representatives are reporting heavy volumes of phone calls and e-mails expressing outrage with the legislation they believe represents the largest "amnesty" program ever contemplated by the federal government. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55830
  8. this is not about voteing, it's about sending a message to thier elected leader's telling them to pull out of NAFTA and stop the North American Union. They still can do that..
  9. Help Block the North American Union by Repealing NAFTA Help preserve the life of freedom enjoyed and cherished by you and your family. Join in a national movement to keep the U.S. free and independent by blocking the development of the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) and the North American Union (NAU) through repealing the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). This "Repeal NAFTA" campaign enables anti-NAU activists to go on the offensive by working to convince Congress to withdraw U.S. membership in NAFTA as provided for in Article 2205 of the NAFTA agreement. Since NAFTA is the foundation on which the SPP/NAU is being built, U.S. withdrawal from NAFTA would constitute a huge setback in the creation of the NAU. Send a message to your representative and senators to let them that you want Congress to repeal NAFTA by voting for withdrawal from the agreement. You can send the message here.. :mrgreen: http://capwiz.com/jbs/issues/alert/?alertid=9580451
  10. part of an interview with Presidential Candidate Ron Paul.. WND: At what point do such agreements (the Security and Prosperity Partnership) with other nations actually endanger the sovereignty of the United States? Ron Paul: It's incremental. It sneaks up on us. When we joined the WTO I objected and they said it's no big deal, they won't force us to do anything. They try to reassure you. Yet to be an upstanding member of the WTO we have already changed our tax laws. We have gone to war under U.N. resolutions. As a matter of fact, this excuse of giving the president the authority to go to war and Congress ducking their responsibility, it was to give the president the authority to enforce U.N. resolutions, so it's subtle but it's there, and it's not legal in the sense that they say a treaty is the law of the land so we join the U.N. and you have to do these things. But you cannot amend the Constitution with a treaty. I think it's already happening. I think it's going to get a lot worse. This Security and Prosperity Partnership is something most members of Congress are totally unaware of and when you tell them anything about it, they say that's all conspiratorial and it's not true and they don't care. The American people are facing some serious problems because of the fact members of Congress aren't alert to what's happening. You can read the rest of it here... http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=56526 an interview Presidential Candidate Tom Tancredo President Bush believes America should be more of an idea than an actual place, a Republican congressman told WND in an exclusive interview. "People have to understand what we're talking about here. The president of the United States is an internationalist," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ it's an idea. It's not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where this guy is really going." Tancredo lashed out at the White House's lack of action in securing U.S. borders, and said efforts to merge the U.S. with both Mexico and Canada is not a fantasy. "I know this is dramatic ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ or maybe somebody would say overly dramatic ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ but I'm telling you, that everything I see leads me to believe that this whole idea of the North American Union, it's not something that just is written about by right-wing fringe kooks. It is something in the head of the president of the United States, the president of Mexico, I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it. ... "And they would just tell you, 'Well, sure, it's a natural thing. It's part of the great globalization ... of the economy.' They assume it's a natural, evolutionary event that's going to occur here. I hope they're wrong and I'm going to try my best to make sure they're wrong. But I'm telling you the tide is great. The tide is moving in their direction. We have to say that." Tancredo was in South Florida joining the likes of media giants Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter at a four-day event called "Restoration Weekend" which concluded today. The gathering was hosted by the David Horowitz Freedom Center. Tancredo pointed to Florida's largest city as an example of how the nature of America can be changed by uncontrolled immigration. "Look at what has happened to Miami. It has become a Third World country," he said. "You just pick it up and take it and move it someplace. You would never know you're in the United States of America. You would certainly say you're in a Third World country." He said quickly changing demographics can cause big problems, and specifically cited the "Islamization of Europe" in recent years which has led to conflict across the continent. http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.a ... E_ID=53023
  11. June 12, 2006 (Computerworld) -- Wisconsin this week will become one of the first states to ban the forcible implantation of radio frequency identification (RFID) tags into humans. The ban begins on Wednesday, when legislation signed on May 30 by Gov. James Doyle goes into effect. The act dictates that no person may force another to have a microchip implanted in his body. Violators face fines of $10,000 each day until the chip is removed. A spokeswoman for Doyle said the law targets RFID technology, though it bans the implantation of any microchip without consent. "I'm hoping other states will follow," said state Rep. Marlin Schneider, a Democrat who sponsored the bill. While Schneider acknowledged that he knows of no case where an RFID chip was forcibly implanted into a person, he said he believes that proactive legislation is necessary as the technology quickly advances. Schneider said he is also concerned about current commercial uses of RFID technology. "There are a number of issues here, potentially," he said. http://www.computerworld.com/action/art ... eId=111542 N Dakota Bans RFID Chip Implants Governor John Hoeven of North Dakota signs a law banning forced chip implants on humans. Gov. Hoeven stated the laws objective: "We need to strike a balance as we continue to develop this technology between what it can do and our civil liberties, our right to privacy," . He continued outlining the publics concerns that "Ultimately, with RFID tagging systems, corporations will be able to monitor everything we buy, everywhere we go and, perhaps as these technologies develop, everything we say." North Dakota is the second State to pass a ban on RFID tracking chips, following Wisconsin. Other states are considering similar legislation, as the public becomes more aware. Many see the use of this technology as going too far into their lives. http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=61792 The Senate Monday passed, 35-13, a Crain bill that would prohibit the forced insertion of microchips into individuals in Oklahoma. Microchips, like those used in animals, can be implanted under the skin and help detect the location of a person and also contain medical information. Crain̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s bill, Senate Bill 47, would not prohibit the microchips themselves, but would mandate that they would not be required of people in the state. He described it as a privacy issue. He said constituents asked for the measure and ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅI thought this is more science fiction than science.̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ
  12. another list of 2008 presidentl candidates. Stephen P. "Steve" Adams (Independent-Kentucky) Terry "Tee" Barkdull (New American Party-Nevada) John Taylor Bowles (NSM/American Nazi Party-South Carolina) Orion Karl Daley (Balanced Party-New York) Cris Ericson (Marijuana Party-Vermont) Vinnie Ferrari (Indepenent-DC) Bob W. Hargis (Independent-Oklahoma) Dan Imperato (Reform/Independent-Florida) Steve Kissing (Independent-Ohio) Frank McEnulty (Independent-California) Ralph Nader (Independent-Connecticut) Arthur J. Regan (Independent-Massachusetts) "Average Joe" Schriner (Independent-Ohio) Jonathon ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅThe Impaler̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ
  13. important conflict, the more significant battle underlying the immigration debate is between corporate America and America's middle class, or rather, between the globalists and the nationalists. The important question is: Why would the president of the United States and a number of leading Republicans in the Congress be so willing to stomp all over the conservatives and tear the Republican Party apart in their rush to be the architects of this so-called "Grand Immigration Compromise?" The answer lies in the ongoing fight between corporate America and America's middle class workers. This battle can also be characterized as a fight between those whose priority is globalization (the globalists) versus those whose priority is American sovereignty (the nationalists). The next most important (and related) priority of big business is to enable its labor force to move just as freely across national boundaries as trade and capital do. In concert with America's political and economic elite, big business wants a world without borders. Corporate America's fight to legalize America's 12 to 20 million illegal aliens is directly related to its desire to unify Canada, the U.S., and Mexico into a North American Union similar to the European Union. The ultimate goal is global governance and the withering away of national sovereignty. With the vastly lower cost of labor inherent in both of these big business priorities, corporate profits will soar, at least in the short term. http://www.thespectrum.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... /706170326
  14. Videos about the North American Union... Lou Dobbs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kjsy2Z3kdI The Dangers of the "North American Union" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFE4dWIu ... ed&search= 35 / NAFTA StupidHighway / North American Union / Real ID http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDijTeJW ... ed&search=
  15. CFR / NAU & 2008 Presidential Candidates
  16. A senior US defense official today urged the Congress to fast track a section of the stalled immigration bill that would allow the military to recruit illegal aliens, after recruitment figures released by Pentagon showed that the Army failed to reach its targets for May. The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors, or DREAM, provision in the immigration bill was expected to help boost military recruiting by allowing illegal aliens to enlist as way to obtain citizenship, Bill Carr, acting deputy undersecretary of defense for military personnel policy, told a veterans̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ group representatives. ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅIn other words, if you had come across (the border) with your parents, yet you were a minor child and have been in the U.S. school system for a number of years, then you could be eligible to enlist,̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ
  17. So we can double post? Good to know if we can.. It's not dead. It's just being put aside for now, the bill is still alive and they could rather easy revote on it later. calling the nation's current immigration situation unacceptable, urged senators to try again to pass legislation that he described as imperfect but the best option available. his weekly Saturday radio address, Bush said the bill would not grant amnesty to illegal immigrants, that they would have to pay fines and take other steps to get on a path to legal status and possibly citizenship. "Securing the border and upholding family values are not partisan concerns," the president said. "They must be addressed, and this bill is the best way to do it." Bush recorded his address Friday in Germany where he was attending a summit with other world leaders. The White House and a bipartisan group of senators drafted the wide-ranging bill, but they could not overcome steady attacks from the left and right during weeks of Senate wrangling. When the Senate failed Thursday to end debate and schedule a vote, Democratic leaders set the bill aside with no promise of reviving it. Bush plans to lunch with Republican senators in the Capitol on Tuesday, part of a more hands-on approach to persuading party conservatives that the compromise bill is much better than the status quo. In his radio address, Bush acknowledged mistakes in handling immigration and pledged to improve the bill as it moves through Congress. "Today, illegal immigration is supported by criminal enterprises dedicated to document forgery, human trafficking, and labor exploitation," he said. "This is unacceptable, and we need to fix it in a way that honors our finest traditions." He said the bill "puts border security first, establishes a temporary worker program to meet the legitimate needs of our growing economy, sets up a mandatory system for verifying employment eligibility, and resolves the status of the estimated 12 million people who are here illegally." Conceding that a 1986 immigration overhaul largely failed, the president said his administration "is determined to learn from the mistakes of the past decades." The bill would double the number of Border Patrol agents, he said, build more border fences and employ infrared sensors and unmanned aircraft to detect illegal border-crossers. "Unlike the 1986 law, this bill gives honest employers the tools they need to ensure that they are hiring legal workers," Bush said, including "a tamper-resistant identity card." Businesses that "knowingly hire illegal aliens will be punished," he said. Addressing the word that has rallied the bill's opponents, the president said: "Amnesty is forgiveness with no penalty for people who have broken our laws to get here." The bill, he said, "requires illegal workers to pay a fine, register with the government, undergo background checks, pay their back taxes, and hold a steady job." If those immigrants eventually want a green card for permanent residence, he said, they will have to pay another fine, learn English "and return to their home country so they can apply from there." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070609/ap_ ... mmigration
  18. There are 20 Loopholes in the Senate Immigration Bill. Here is some of them. the link is to the other's.. Loophole 6 ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ Some Child Molesters Are Still Eligible: Some aggravated felons ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ those who have sexually abused a minor ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ are eligible for amnesty. A child molester who committed the crime before the bill is enacted is not barred from getting amnesty if their conviction document omitted the age of the victim. The bill corrects this loophole for future child molesters, but does not close the loophole for current or past convictions. [see p. 47: 30-33, & p. 48: 1-2] Loophole 7 ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ Terrorism Connections Allowed, Good Moral Character Not Required: Illegal aliens with terrorism connections are not barred from getting amnesty. An illegal alien seeking most immigration benefits must show ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬Ågood moral character.̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ
  19. I think the North American Union has something to do with it.
  20. My opinion is, even thow you might not like it is, that it's being use to return all peoples of the earth, even American's to Serfdom.Under a neo-feudal society in a World Goverment.Were every thing is that you do is controlled, and Micro managed. What you eat, what type of house you life in, how many kid's you can have (More than likely there will be a one child policy for every one), and were you are implanted with an RFID MIcrochip that tracks you ever were you go. Like Runescapes mini-map has an example..... :boohoo:
  21. If this is sing into law, American's whould need to get the Homeland Security approval just get a job or keep the job they have.. No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval Submitted by Canada IFP on Sat, 2007-05-26 18:00.Americas | United States | News US citizens who apply for a job will need prior approval from Department of Homeland Security under the terms immigration bill passed by the Senate this week. American Civil Liberties Union pointed out that the DHS's Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) is error plagued and if the department makes a mistake in determining work eligibility, there will be virtually no way to challenge the error or recover lost wages due to the bill̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s prohibitions on judicial review. Even current employees will need to obtain eligibility approval from the DHS Within 60 days of the Immigration Reform Act of 2006 becoming law. "EEVS would be a financial and bureaucratic nightmare for both businesses and workers," said Timothy Sparapani, ACLU Legislative Counsel. "Under this already flawed program no one would be able to work in the U.S. without DHS approval - creating a ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâNo Work List̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ similar to the government̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâNo Fly List.̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ We need immigration reform, but not at this cost." The act allocates US$400 million for the implementation of the EEVS, but the Congressional Budgeting Office estimates the system to cost in excess of a billion dollars. http://pressesc.com/01180202266_eevs Back to top
  22. this might just be all conspiracy but it seems to go with the topic.. Shocking reports from the Kremlin today are showing that just under one week from Australian Prime Minister Howard̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s urgent plea to his citizens to pray for rain to fall on their drought ravaged Nation, the Government of Australia has entered into secret negotiations with the United States and their Commonwealth allies for the ̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ãâproposed̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ evacuation of upwards of 11 million of its 20 million citizens. To the tragedy currently unfolding upon the World̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s smallest Continent of Australia we can read as reported by Britain̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s Independent News Service in their article titled "Australia's epic drought: The situation is grim", http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1006.htm
  23. No. Earth can hold for more poeple that there is. The only real problem with this issue is, that people don't like each other..
  24. Right now I really don't like how the goverment is running things. They are trying to creat the North American Union that Ron Paul has tried to warn American's about. Ron Paul is also running for President if you did not know... some link's to info about it... http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/cover041207.htm http://www.propagandamatrix.com/article ... 7Texas.htm http://www.jbs.org/node/3416 http://www.saveamericafund.com/urgent.html http://www.okcitizensparty.org/ http://canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/page.cgi?_id=7 http://canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/page. ... 432&_id=27 http://www.jbs.org/node/3185
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