Arcane_Rift

So why don't you show us your earnings report like every publicly traded company is required to?

1 day without xp gains = undeniable quitting in this thread m8. No, l2 read. I said it's not a bad thing but the whole point of this thread is based on those players and obviously people will ask being how intense the race is. No one is really racing lol. Elias said multiple times he almost stands no chance on being the first to 200m all. He never even said it's his definite goal. The race is pretty much over seeing as it's obvious that Suomi will be first. If he quits (which won't happen) then you can start calling it a race. It's far from obvious, Suomi still has massive financial problems, he can't afford anywhere near all his buyables. If he doesn't get enough from donations and has to stop training to get money (or do slower methods), that will increase his time to 200M all by a lot, potentially even costing him rank 1. Saying the race is over when no one is even 3B XP yet is extremely nieve, I'm surprised at you. I'd be surprised if he already didn't have the money. He's received a [cabbage] ton of donations since I started watching this post 2 years ago and he hinted toward the fact that he was sitting on rares, too.

Thank you thank you so much! <333 Was so nice of you, appeciate it so much. Will always remember this day. I feel so happy and lucky to have friends like you. I am not saying this because I get donations, friendship means me so much more to me than just rs gp. So glad to see people helping each other and caring about others. I have been trying so hard to get 200M in all skills for so long and hopefully I will make it there some day. Thanks again and good luck to everyone too. Thanks for Foot too for keeping making skilling videos now that Zarfot is gone. Huge thanks to everyone again and remember that if you want to help you don't have to give me like 1B or anywhere near that, even small amounts help a lot and I appreciate them too. Also remember that you don't have to donate, you can pm me just to say hi or something if you feel like it or if you want to ask something. I'm kind of surprised you don't have enough money to max already with the amount of donations I've seen you get on this post alone.

It creates an interesting discussion that could lead to new and innovative ways to train.

Why doesn't someone just do it and then we don't have to guess the xp values?

What is the current max / hour at bandos?

Haha... the last 2 pages of argument suck. Just agree to disagree.

it's worth doing all spots as the spots are all over 300k pure xp an hour and it cuts down on the penalty of having to do 3 minute dungeons(obviously a second could take care of this but even then all spots are optimal). You can also only get the best wood/fish at your level and one tier alone, so all the spots are worth doing for xp. Mining is only available in c3 and those contain much less fish/wood and the fact that it's 5 ore max per rock(15 max fish, 8 max wood) and the xp per isn't great(like 150 compared to 300 from wc) means mining alone is slow and it really slows down the other skills. There seems to be a noticable difference in the number of fishing/wcing spots as you go up the floors, but not a big or no difference at all between the same type of floor. I suggest 1-5 frozen because they have most resources and fastest bosses(lumi icefiend is actually kind of slow, but that's 40 seconds even). Oh...and smithing is absolutely, catastrophically terrible for anything in dungeoneering. Cool. Thanks for the reply. I wasn't implying to do Smithing in the dungeons that would be awfully slow.

I see. Have you noticed that some fishing spots or some wood cutting locations aren't worth doing because they take too long to get a particular type of wood or fish or do you just fish/cut everything you can? Have you tried mining here? Probably not worth it if you are going for optimal speeds of smithing/mining/magic but it might be better if you are just going for pure mining xp. Finally, is there any noticeable between difference how many resource spots there are on F1 and F2 or are most themes relatively the same?

That's really why you should join a group to dg. In a group setting it's easier for people to teach others and for the team to take notice, while in random teams people take offense of being told what to do and are generally stubborn. There are actually many groups you can join, obviously dgs being one of them, but once you can get to 100 or 105 ultimate dg or 3bo are very good options aswell. Obviously only dgs is tip.it based, thus why i would always mention it first, and it's also the only one with no level requirements. As for thunderous, if you see the team is crap at it just order them all to go out and make/drop strong melee/rejuv potions on ggs. In a solo setting, assuming you never screw up(which is very reasonable) and use turmoil, thunderous doesn't even take that long(like 2 min solo with primal 2h, strong melee and turmoil). I finally got around to binding a prom hatchet today and testing how woodcutting would work. I did the test over frozen floors 1-11, completed every dungeon(got plane freezer 3 times, which is a slow boss) and got beast mode every time. The total time it took was 84 minutes(used real time, not dungeon time counter) and i gained 129,7k woodcutting and 84,1k fishing xp in that time. That is an average of 84k woodcutting and 60k fishing xp an hour. Now, i did get unlucky with the fish i got, so i summed them into my frozen floor average(data over 100+ frozen floors, my average for the test was 47) and used the average figure of 60 fish per dungeon to see what the results would be with more average dungeons(and assumed it takes 2,5 seconds to get one fish, which is very consistent for me). The results would have been 86k woodcutting and 71k fishing xp an hour, which is very reasonable. I also calculated how much pure wc xp an hour i could get, and again, assuming it takes 2,5 seconds per fish, the hourly rate would have been around 124k an hour, more if i'd had a primal hatchet(prob like 5% more). Now i know this isn't much data, but it atleast proves that c2 skilling is both fastest woodcutting or fishing xp in game(and even better if you combine them), and if you'd have a friend do the dungeon for you, it would be ridiculously fast. Keep in mind, for all the tests i've done, i've never used mousekeys for dropping, had cosmics bound or quit before any boss, so the maximum rates assuming you only want to skill(i do them as i need c1's done) would likely be 140k fishing or 160k woodcutting(or 80k fishing and 90k woodcutting) xp an hour assuming you do floors 1-5 having cosmics bound and either have rapier(can do all 4 bosses real fast, likely still quit icefiend) or quit dungeon before boss; soloing. Also, as you can see, i haven't mentioned firemaking. That is because the skill itself is so fast(412k xp PH according to grimy) that you'd need to burn one log per 2,1 seconds for it to be on par with fming in normal rs(that 2,1 seconds is for both the extra movement it takes you and the actual time it takes you to light the logs) and i'm not really sure that's doable(it takes around 2,5 seconds to fish one fish and 4,2 seconds to cut a log). Oh, and i'd also appreatiate it if anyone could give me an accurate account of the fastest fishing and woodcutting methods in game without dungeoneering. The other xp you get while doing the best methods(as i'm fairly sure fishing will be barb fishing and woodcutting with adze) can be discounted against the best method for each skill(620k cooking xp an hour, 412k fming xp an hour and 95k agility xp an hour, strength is basically worthless but can be seen as around 1m xp an hour). Just curious why you are spending the time to complete the low level floors, specifically solo? Wouldn't it be faster to just end the dungeon after the resources are depleted and then re-start the same dungeon to effectively get the most xp/h?

Nope

Unable to view your spreadsheet.

10 years for me at the end of the month. I definitely followed the games history more than actually playing it but I'm still here entertained and intrigued by its progress.

Yeah it is a joke and something needs to happen. You and I pretty much went through the same thing yesterday with selling a white partyhat and making ridiculous amounts of money off buying/selling from the cash earned. The profits are just too easy and right now all big ticket items are being pushed up and all the bulk items are being pushed down. I hate to say it but they need to place the 4 hour cap back on the GE and if people want to buy more of an item then they'll have to go through other players. I think most people expected that was what was going to happen anyway.

I just made the difference on that flipping stuff in the GE with the money I earned. Who cares about 50 - 100M anyway? This is too easy.

I put a White Phat in GE at medium price to see what it would sell for and got 971M. I made around 750M on that one transaction.

It's free trade there is no buy/sell time limits. The only limits there are still are the amounts you can buy so people don't monopolize an item.

Yes, it factors receiving an effigy 1:100k slayer xp. Right now all the dragonkin lamps xp go to RC and the effigy bonuses from opening them are evenly split over the 8 slowest skills to train for each pairing. This is where the spreadsheet is flawed because I don't have dragonkin lamps set to go the 2nd slowest skill if someone already has RC maxed. If I get some time I could try to adjust this but for now all the top 15 people are so far off that it shouldn't matter too much.

Yeah there's a few skills that haven't been updated in 5+ months and it seems there is quite a bit of ambiguity regarding some methods and the xp/h rates achievable so I haven't changed a few of them yet. The 85k/h in agility is factoring in playing Barbarian Assault. It might be more, it might be less, but it is hard to determine the amount of time it takes to fill up the Penance Horn so I just left it at that.

Seriously? Slayer already is half of those 10k hours Yep. 4712 hours remaining for Suomi at a rate of 40k/h in Slayer. Wow, and how much hours is the remaining 70m rc xp he would have to do? And Woodcutting? + all the buyables is NOT over 10k hours? Wow :o Just punch his name into the Input section of the spreadsheet and it'll give you a rough estimate of time he left in each skill.

no need to fletch there no need to cannon there maybe magic imbue but in reality youd be hoping to be trading/crafting all the time and not worry bout imbu ing But there may be a need to fletch there if too much wc xp is gotten opening effigies :ohnoes: what else is a decent skill to fletch while doing, except agility, rc, slayer, fishing? I'm also wondering arib. How far would you take the whole cave crawler thing? xensure shows that it is best for 5 non combat 200m's If i had the money id probably do it I'd say do slayer and RC at cave crawlers, then do Agility at black dragons, then Fishing at black demons. Maybe throw in some TDs as well to break up the monotony. Welcome to EffigyScape or CavecrawlerScape. *wonders why people think this game will exist longer than +5 years* Guys, be careful not to nerdify the thread please. Not everyone likes to solve EVERYTHING with math... >.> it's nice you have the brain capacity to make those calculations, but use them to go study at Harvard or something (getting requirments first ofc) instead of wasting it on Runescape lol. Following the most efficient way (aka that spreadsheet) would make bootcamp look like a freaking 5 star vacation. 'But some people have done this!!!!' yeah, few hours a day for like 2 weeks max? No one is able to do those things the way they've been written down longterm, mainly because it doesn't allow to do anything else at the same time (either requiring too much focus or missing the max xp/h possible due to it) + it would take years either way. *injects the thread with a dose of reality* There, glad we figured that one out. @Xensure: I believe the purpose of the thread is who will reach 200m in all skills and whether its possible to do or not. Imo, posting tedious ways like spending 7k hours at cave crawlers (seriously guys LOL) doesn't improve that discussion in any way. If you need something to bicker about, join a math club if making calculations about things that only a handful of people take interest in is where you get your kicks from (let alone that no one would be able to do it the fair way atleast aka not acc sharing or anything). On that note, efficiency is merely a sub topic on this thread aswell and should definitely not become the main point of discussion. I'd rather read a -50% post quantity if the quality improves, so to say. @ 200m range gratzers: Tyvm :) ! Also, slayer is not a cb skill, so it has nothing to do with becoming the ultimate cb master or w/e. Just because slayer is a skill that you can gain exp for doesn't make it superior to its camping counterpart. It's a matter of preference, and nothing more. It's the actual cb skills that count. Anyone who finds there's something beyond that is either a slayer fanboy or a camper troller. It usually goes mixed together. Looks like someone missed the point. Just so you know the 1st post of this thread is asking if we believe someone can do it not who we think can do it. Based on that question alone, calculations to determine the length of time are much more important to the discussion than who we think can actually do it; however, adding a top 15 of the top contenders brings another fun dimension to the thread. Also, don't forget you are doing the same type of remedial math to determine how much xp/h you'll need to reach those records and goals you try to attain. :)

Seriously? Slayer already is half of those 10k hours Yep. 4712 hours remaining for Suomi at a rate of 40k/h in Slayer.

All I see is a bunch of fake skill capes.

Can someone explain this purple sweets fishing methods, I never heard of it.

What method is this?