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Forget people saying it's bad, there's just gonna be nobody around to ask... Who's gonna play a multiplayer game with nobody to talk to? for christ's sake we haven't even been told WHY they're doing this, or how it's going to improve anything besides a vague "we want it to reflect on active players" and that doesn't even explain the removal of f2p boards it's just a leaderboard, there are free sites which show leaderboards and they're not tanking in finances, exactly what does it mean for their bottom line... and why isn't this solved by the ranking system anyway

For the sake of preserving this thread's remaining integrity, I'll just refer to your forums for further conversation. on a lighter note, I would have thought that you would note that the teleport amulet to the tower and the bank located within being two more advantages added to phoenix feather collection, but I guess those were kind of obvious already, right

While there are many things I would like to shout angrily and past statements I would like to quote back to, the moment has passed, but I leave you with this... You could claim that somebody who doesn't like these changes to the point where they describe them in extensive detail and is still paying for membership or just playing at all is a hypocrite, but on the other side of that coin, anybody who has stopped playing the game is automatically unqualified to actually complain about anything and deemed to not have an actual interest in the game, thereby invalidating their opinions according to internet rules. This line of logic is therefore completely idiotic and avoids the actual issues, choosing to instead antagonize the other player, and does nothing to the solution process, except prolong the annoyances and allow us to slip further into the darkness. I didn't have to spend this time explaining it but here we are

Well, I suggest you try to RENAME the skills at least. Maybe find a good writer to punch up your ideas. It can help a lot to articulate your goals in a more professional style, plus add some credibility. As for player suggestions, while it is good to have input, you should have a very strong framework and theme to use in the first place. Without that kind of direction, you just end up making a clone of some other game. To clarify, you should have players help SHAPE the game, but not DESIGN the actual game. Then you'd be kind of lazy. It's like, "hey, make my game systems for me". Of course, a lot of people would love to jump on that ship, but then ideas clash and people can't actually agree on anything, and with no sort of experience in the matter, they are likely to make glaring holes in the system. Which is why you need the goals in the first place. Anyway. Right now we're at this point where we need to know if RS could be salvaged, but until then, I can wait somewhere else far from this mess.

I'd be more agreeable if it didn't turn out that you're advertising a game you're working on, and looking at it, noticing how much of it isn't actually there yet, and that you've pretty much ripped a lot of concepts from RS, down to the names.

If you've got a basket of teddy bears and you're using it as a lure, wouldn't that make you a ped- wait, off topic Okay, good to be back after all that nonsense. Before I find a suitable thread to unload the unbridled righteous fury building up over the past few weeks of seeing people seriously discuss ideas that I have been championing for YEARS without anybody even batting an eye towards the notion and not being able to scream "YOU BASTARDS WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN TO ME BEFORE IT WAS TOO LATE" okay, maybe a little more bridled than that I have to say here that whatever you've got to say about f2p, freeloading, and going downhill Without a strong playerbase to interact with in f2p, it'll basically turn into rsc. Which is to say, barren and creepy. While affecting the f2p game will surely cut off the life support, it won't immediately break the members game. HOWEVER If their goal is to pretty much bury this game in the next few years after ending the stories and bringing back Zaros, then fine. This is the first step towards winding the game down to something that doesn't cost as much until it dies, even though we're probably looking at minimal savings. If the PLAYERS want this game to survive well into the future, the game either needs a radical overhaul which may not sit well with many or most of you, or....wait, there's no other option. You've run out of them. It needs the overhaul. Otherwise we can just archive this sucker and move on. But we don't know if the community's goals and Jagex's goals are the same, do we? If the community can make their goals unified and articulate across a majority, there could be some communication that doesn't end up with everybody getting screwed over. I seriously doubt that will happen though, so, perhaps this is goodbye for reals. It's not optimistic, but several years of optimism hasn't really gotten us anywhere except one really late bot ban (closing the barn door after the barn has burnt down), and a whole lot of quitters, not to mention a wholesale betrayal of trust across the board. If Jagex is "rebuilding" this trust so they can soften the deathblow, okay, fine, whatever. Stab me in the back already, you're not trying to get me in bed, you're just getting rid of a game in the most cold hearted way possible. If they really want the game to continue, then they really need to get serious about this, and have some discussion, which doesn't involve muting people for speaking their mind and publically shooting more or less their own player mods who were told to be players first, then claiming that they want to talk to people...at runefest...about the same subjects, so that they can stop stabbing common sense's cold corpse in the heart every single week. Until then, every second leading up to that point is another second Jagex freeloads off of the remaining "goodwill" and the unwillingness of players to let go of all their past efforts, and it's every bit as disgusting as it sounds.

If you've done Branches of Darkmeyer and are too stingy for normal throwing weapons, blisterwood stakes make a really good substitute and are readily available in large quantities. Granted, you have to throw them at basically point blank range, which is where the tanking part comes in.

Not that I care or anything, but wouldn't that sheep punching activity draw the wrath of Guthix?

Don't forget sawmill training! Artisan's workshop is more of an optimization thing in which you get more exp for your materials, but it's all moot compared to goldsmith :P What I would really like would be some kind of sensible way to train summoning or runecrafting without the excessive costs/useless item production/pack mule syndrome.

If I hold down the backspace key, it sounds like a helicopter!

I'm thinking that this is a somewhat poorer, more elaborately designed patch job made to fix the issue that they made resource gathering annoying and senseless because the entire thing was meant to be separate from RS and unprofitable so that people who didn't want to participate wouldn't complain. I feel that they get some kind of strange satisfaction at seeing how right they were about something being useless when all they really wanted was to avoid having to be in a clan to play good content, when they have in a roundabout way caused the problem.

They've supposedly fixed it in this update, so...yeah.

I think glacors are a combination of the demon summoning powers of Lucien (it is unclear whether or not this is a trait of the Mahjarrat in general seeing as Bilrach also possessed this ability), the crazy ass powers of the stone which allow him to tear a large enough rift open to make it permanent while shaping the form of the beings to suit his needs, and the focus of the Staff of Armadyl, which gave them the ability to float and the trait of being nonaggressive, although the latter may be because they're not constantly on fire on the inside. I theorize that the armadyl shards are fragments of the staff after the dragonkin shattered it over Lucien's really thick skull. The glacors being the closest attuned beings to the staff subsequently fused with the shards after they were scattered. Might explain why the arma battlestaff is pretty much identical in form to the original, except much smaller. What can be observed, however, is the similarity between a glacor's physical traits, and those of a dragonkin.

- that one guy in the unmarked white van (perhaps they could start with the censorship squad that lurks around the RSOF)

At this point, they've been taking the time to destroy all threads discussing any kind of dissatisfaction, regardless of who is actually saying what. There is no explicit way to get an answer as to why they are doing this, and resulting punishments cannot be appealed. I'd give evidence but they burned it all. I do, however, suggest staying even farther away from the RSOF than before, or risk having all your rights violated.

Considering that I recently got some official chewing out in the RSOF for expressing legitimate, reasonable concerns about these kinds of topics (without actually being told specifically what I had done wrong), especially since I was actually DEFENDING their "loyalty programme", I wonder why it's being allowed by paying convention money.

I refuse to believe that the bones in the wilderness are what you need to use, based on the grounds that they are located in the unsafe area. Do you think Ilsinor could be an elf? Also, a quest having level 87 magic and possibly 82 smithing and 80 fletching requirements....that's gonna be a handful.

I do realize that there is a large gaping hole in the story, where somehow both you and Robert need to obtain dragonkin remains in the first place in order to enchant the bane ore so that you can kill the dragonkin, but I think that one's best told by the quest in another ridiculous time loop in which you end up giving yourself the remains after procuring them by killing some dragonkin using bane bolts that were enchanted by the remains that you had given yourself earlier. This is commonly referred to in the business as "hax".

So, I've been hearing about this note over the past week or so, and after finally scraping together all of the qualifications, went through the quest, and got the notes themselves for my own perusing. And then, after reading them, everything clicked. About a few hours ago, though. I was a bit busy fighting, and thinking, to put this down, but now I have the time. I apologize in advance if this has already been figured out, I just wanted to post this so that others could know. The note Robert writes to you: [spoiler=Note to you]Dear adventurer, Welcome to Kethsi. I'm sorry that I have no means of knowing your name. I don't have much time before the magic takes hold and my reincarnation takes place. I also enclose a note to myself, which you must give me when you see me, but NOT as a cat. I enclose a necklace crafted by my sweetheart, Ilsinor. There is no other like it. You will need this to convince me that the note I've sent myself is worth remembering. There is information on this island that will be needed if the enemy is not to overtake us all. It's protected by an ancient Kethsian puzzle. I enclose vital items to help you complete that puzzle. I hid them here many years ago to keep them from getting into the wrong hands. Good luck. - Robert the Strong P.S. DKQ is a code which could become useful to you at some point. So, here are some instructions for you that help you during the quest. And there are some instructions which apparently need to be followed at some point in the future. And, should you take a peek into the note he left for himself: [spoiler=Note to robert]Dear Robert, I know none of this makes sense to you now, but I have seen the alternative, and this information is very important and should not be forgotten, nor idly revealed. The code to what you seeks is DIRAKS. You must preserve the secret at all costs and make sure only the right people learn it. This will not be the only time the enemy will rise. The stonetoucher must also know what to do. The Temple Knights will be the start of the stonetoucher's trial. The animal is a cat. The time is plus 2139. Put the key to the secrets on your collar. Good luck. - Robert the Strong Now, a lot of people thought that at some point in the future Bob the cat would become human again. But only once have I read somebody conjecture that we would be.....time traveling. Take a closer look at Robert's letter to himself. Not only does it make no sense in context of a future event, but they sound exactly like instructions to himself in the PAST. This is a letter to a Robert, the man who seeks to slay the Dragonkin, but does not know how. But Robert, the man who has already slain the Dragonkin, knows exactly where to find the secret of the bane ore and how to get there. This "future" Robert also knows of you, and of what you will need to do in a time beyond his own, in order to ensure that the Dragonkin do not succeed in their second uprising, and so that you will be able to complete the cycle and give the note back to himself in the past. He instructs the Robert of the past to remember to aid you in your future quest, and to where you will be in order for him to leave the note for you in the Temple Knight's records for you to take Bob's collar. (Remember when you asked Lady Table for information, and the only excerpt was from Robert, who somehow referred to you years in the past?) He also tells past Robert precise details that future Robert should have no business knowing....unless he were told earlier about it....from himself....through the note he asks you to deliver to him. Further supporting this situation is the wording in the note to you. He does not refer to a specific time as to when you are to give him the note, just that he is not a cat, leaving the timeframe open to interpretation. He leaves a very precious unique necklace, that only he would recognize, because since being a time traveler in the first place already hurts your credibility, there's no way in hell Robert of the past would even acknowledge such crazy talk from a stranger unless you were to be carrying a necklace identical to the one Robert is carrying, and would never give up, unless it were really important circumstances, such as fulfilling a stable time loop during his last moments as a human, and being able to sacrifice his most valued keepsake for this purpose. TLDR 1. You find the notes that Robert has left behind. 2. You go back into the past, with the necklace to prove your story true. Robert of the past takes the note, despite never finding out what your name is. He uses the secret of the bane ore to drive back the Dragonkin during his time. 3. Near the end of his life, Robert goes through the lengths to copy the note he gave himself, and to write you a note, as instructed, not to mention leave a hint in the Temple Knights archives. He also has a cat collar created for his reincarnation in the future from a fragment of a Kethsian mural, and probably plants it somewhere where it will be found by whatever contrived sequence of events that it takes to get to him, as indicated by the exact year in time in the note. He stashes all of these other items in Kethsi, ensuring that only you will be able to find the key. 4. Several thousand years later, Robert reincarnates as Bob. You meet him and become friends. 5. The Dragonkin attack again. This situation triggers the events necessary to access the clue Robert left you. 6. See step 1. So, in conclusion, there will be a quest in the future (also, in the past), it will require you to be able to cast the tune bane ore spell from the lunar spellbook on some dragonkin remains that you presumably manage to get during that quest, and it will possibly require you to have a certain magical key that can time travel. "Hey wise guy, if this is all true, then who was the person who started the cycle in the first place?" ... shut up

Although Sliske technically is allied with Zaros, he's pretty much a secretive jerk and nobody else really likes him. He's probably as self serving as Lucien, but he's not up front about it and waits for his opportunities rather than actively seeking them out, because he prefers to hide where it's safe. And that's why Lucien is the shrimp on the barbie, and he's not. side note: does that mean that if we get sliske to kill more people, we can has more barrow?

They didn't even make a new symbol! It's just a recolored air rune!

Yeah, the thing about botting mains that annoys me the most is that it makes them too difficult to kill. :P

Pretty much. That said, I still agree with Jagex's decision to pull support from the site, just not the way they did it. Although, the fact that they gave us information into their decision was a refreshing change. The fact that they still found a way to screw up, however, is a testament to their dedication.

That being said, I still think the suggestion to close the doors on the crypts is a terrible idea and they should remove it.

Stakes at a disadvantage? Do you know how much damage these things do because of the knife speed? If it weren't for the fact that the other two weapons also deal crazy high amounts, I'd be saying the stakes were overpowered. This is definitely a cheap way to train ranged. Plus, the alerter works with it, so you don't need tons of them...which of course you would have anyway because chopping the blisterwood tree is faster than magics, and it regenerates fairly quickly and is independent of all other choppers. When the thing stops to regenerate you can spend that time carving stakes (they really need a craft-all on that, the amount of clicks is a little annoying). Anyway, notes about the game's walkthrough: