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id rather use on slayer its prob not that much different since people keep arguing bout it lol

until everyone in the top 10 or 5 has maxed all buyables hunter thieveing + melees/slayer(i consider slayer a slow skill but with all the effigy and the combat exp....it is an awesome choice for overalll exp) then it wont become clear who will accually do the slow skills or not and how they will fare or choose to do it (camping effigy is still an option ) =p because many people keep short term overall exp spurts and ranks as a sign that someone can get 200m all. A few 100m-200m months training buyables will eventually come 15-40m months training a slow skill @ current exp rates but hey it can always get changed. Ya slay should be the first skill you max I think now that effigys are out. Idk why suomi is using his lamps on slay if I was doing 200m all I would use em on rc lol slayer is the slowest skill and also get rc exp from investigating can camp other stuff for other skills later.. As of the 13th of january it is better to slay and use lamps on rc rather than slay and use lamps on slayer. Not much except urns has changed since then. However camping crawlers for slayer pwns both of those so :P what happened on the 13th of janurary....

until everyone in the top 10 or 5 has maxed all buyables hunter thieveing + melees/slayer(i consider slayer a slow skill but with all the effigy and the combat exp....it is an awesome choice for overalll exp) then it wont become clear who will accually do the slow skills or not and how they will fare or choose to do it (camping effigy is still an option ) =p because many people keep short term overall exp spurts and ranks as a sign that someone can get 200m all. A few 100m-200m months training buyables will eventually come 15-40m months training a slow skill @ current exp rates but hey it can always get changed. Ya slay should be the first skill you max I think now that effigys are out. Idk why suomi is using his lamps on slay if I was doing 200m all I would use em on rc lol slayer is the slowest skill and also get rc exp from investigating can camp other stuff for other skills later..

until everyone in the top 10 or 5 has maxed all buyables hunter thieveing + melees/slayer(i consider slayer a slow skill but with all the effigy and the combat exp....it is an awesome choice for overalll exp) then it wont become clear who will accually do the slow skills or not and how they will fare or choose to do it (camping effigy is still an option ) =p because many people keep short term overall exp spurts and ranks as a sign that someone can get 200m all. A few 100m-200m months training buyables will eventually come 15-40m months training a slow skill @ current exp rates but hey it can always get changed.

we are so completely opposite x[) I hate farming and love dungeoneering and slayer i think farming became my lowest skill again cuz of prayer urns too lol

yea im hoping the double the exp for slow skills i think id camp effigy for rc agil and maybe farming personally hope ur better mood stays =) edit:yes uncertaintainty irl is a big thing for me as well - would be stupid as hell to say "im going for 200m in all" when i dont even know if im still going to play say 2-5 months from now let allone 2-5 years+ or if i play will it be at a decent enough pace efficient 4hrs doesnt compare to semi-efficient or inefficent 10+ look at the timecalcs suomi has the skills like mining and agil done and is 8k hours left still and that doesnt include gp making. 8k hrs is about 2 years at 12hrs/day and the others 12k hrs is about 3yrs at 12hrs a day...and then calculate if u dont do stuff at 0 time lost........its like 4-5+ years....which is pretty outa reach to think about and commit too.... for most people but think about it most people didnt really think theyd max at half the way exp wise it was 312m so about 160m exp alot of people didnt have the goal of maxed total in mind... so yea just cuz someone says "oh im not going for it" doesnt mean in the future slow skills that take months of nolifing wont have thier exp raised it dooesnt mean they wont make a more enjoyable type of grind money(non merch/bossing/staking) than frost. in a few years when theirs people @ 4b+ more people might see it as "hey i can do this" like when people achieve 2400 or 2450 + 2496 does.

1.)stop flaming he has typing problems unless ur gunna flame me too ??? i type horrible 2.) well he sticks to his goals if he keeps going eventually maybe he will get to the sllow ones and complete them too 3.) got a point thier - allar does what he likes idk if he will ever accually tackle out the skills he doesnt enjoy. but hey play the game liek you wanna i respect him for that. 4.)maybe not in current time but maybe in the future 5.) we all know this was an exageration she was around the middle of the efficiency list around 50k/hr but the efficiency list is pretty old and she was definately the bottom of the people with 1billion + i think i used mintellas days and calced she was around 1400 days but eh we shouldnt be calcing peoples days and tbh current exp gains are better than the "efficiency list" because remember lots of her exp was done forever ago... but i still think green probably wont make it tho shes not as likely to quit as other people she just doesnt gain as quickly exp wise. 6.)yea i think so but other peoples reported simular exp /hr that were near me on the list

I wouldn't say 200m in all skills is set in stone yet. I think telmomarques has a really good chance, and elias has proven his worth over these last couple of months. Not to mention players like Green098, Allar, Elvis, and Jdelacroix are slow xp gainers but very consistent. I'd say the fast xp gainers though are Tezz Telmomarques S U O M I Drumgun eh drumgun is not always fast.....

nope that was skiller, we were at the same mcdonald's Lmfao... But yea, doesn't it suck for someone like me across the world to not get invited to go to Runefest, but skiller(s) lives right around the corner, got invited, but still didn't go! Anyways that's the past, but Viva La Bust, I always wanted to thieve with you last year but could never find you.. Grats on 200m btw. And I am the real Toonami. And since I finally made an account here I'll post something I should've a long time ago. My log to 99 Dung. I wrote down my hours played daily from day 1.. Idk why, I didn't even plan on getting high ranks in the beginning. Sometimes things just fall into place and people get lucky. Call me the noob that made it. The random names on top and the bottom were there so I could remember to add them back, I have a "2nd Friendslist" on word with over 100 people, all people I met dunging... And what sucks is that my friends list was full before Dung even came out... The First number = xp gained that day, the second is total dung exp... Some I added + ###k meaning to add that to it... At some points I was on so long that my Swiftkit timer would reset so that's why it says check timer and a bunch of + and - signs for the time... But in a nutshell it was something like 300-350 hours to 99... Think about that... Let's say 325 hours, at current exp rates (I'll say 230k)... 74,750,000 exp... And then the time spent after that to 30M, and then the time spent in occults to about 60-70m. I think I'd be beating Jebrim in the most exp in one skill. lol... Probably like over 400m. Although I do want to mention that I knew at the time I would be spending a lot more hours on the skill than I would be in the future. But I was doing it for rank, not efficiency. In the first week, the max exp we got was probably around 30k.. I remember thinking about how it was comparable to slayer. Elias would always calculate the xp per hr based on the time we completed each dungeon... Which were small dungeons at the time... I have screenshots of me standing there saying F6+2... Stupid floors needed for reset... It's too bad no one c1'd in the early days... Could've saved so much more time... And the flawed system... Finally fixed up a little bit a few months ago... Why didn't they just do that from the start? Did it really take 1 year to figure that out? There are so many questions about this skill. The skill itself has no use outside of Daemonheim. It only allows access to some crappy resource Dungeons in the middle of no where, with Frost Dragons being the only one really useful. And even that... The level 80 requirement is nothing compared to the level 120 max... Which means we are missing so much content that we should/could have. And Chris L... Do I really have to ask this.... "WHAT IS THE STRANGE POWER?!!?!??!?!?!" Wow, I forgot about oooGokuooo. Why can't the [bleep]ing friends list be expanded..... Edit: Can't believe I used to think that was a lot of hours at a time... And to think when I was going for 200m, I would stay up for 35-40+ hours and then sleep for 8.... If Serpenttine wasn't there keeping me going for all that time I probably wouldn't be Rank 1 for monthly exp gained. And a Quick Question!! How the heck did Rank 2 get so close to me???? Who keyed for him??? Cause I just don't believe that lol.... It was after the front page was full... Dungeons were starting to slow and slow... He's not even high up in daily or weekly.... not sure but he hangs around dg place alot and stuff nolife coop used 18m tokens! or something lol.........and still dgs maybe kicker had effigys??? and o yea serp = pro so u think it was better to go a long time on 8hrs of sleep and not worry about trying to sleep 1-4 hrs and oversleepinG if in a race or competition or something lol not worth it to do it long term.

yea 100 in less than a year wonder bout 2 years mainly because its varied and pretty fast and good with good teamates. Ended at rank 115 when mid nov- 1st week of april i prob averaged 3 dgs a day counting the days in nov and dec that i didnt dg at all. getting about 65m exp. 3 dgs a day still gets 13m+ a month when spending most of the day on other skills. could get 2m-3m a day doing many floors a day.... but 200m dg still not an easy thing cuz at a certain time of the nite it dies especcially on weekdays........and as the skill goes on more pros and good keyers get 200m and so it accually gets slower overtime tho the prestige update helped loads with bringing dg back to life. Also gotta pay attention most of the time unless you want slower floors, the times that i didnt care at all about dg i keyed insanely slow floors or was slow at dg in general compared to the other times. Also if your teamates play at different times than you then you gotta accually communicate what times to do floors at. With random players doing many larges a day is Hell - usually i do like 2 and log off and get bored.... so insanely awesome friends helped especcially alot anyway the main reason that the skill is so popular to get 200m is because it goes to 120 and 120 itself is 104m exp otherwise it really wouldnt be as popular even if 99 dg gave the same exp rates as the current 120. Lots of people got 200m dg and went severly inactive or came back and only do dg but I know I can definately get other 200ms =) MAybe in 2-3 years Langer be trackstalking me x[)

Completionist cape requirements are being discussed on HLF, Mod Chris said all spells+prayers unlocked is another requirement. So all from livid farm, bones to peaches, god spells, dung reward prayers as I understand it. blah i wish it was quest /task/music but bought hte prayers from dg anyway... but yea one week we might see slow progress if everyone is at livid =p like 40hrs is alot for a week of training lol.... the miniquest they chose dont seem to take to lon alot need b2p tho. incl me =(

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah :'( but apparently u get over 1m farm exp getting all spells. which is good

200m dg for me =) jd playing effigy game for one week. lol

a list with base - 1 skill would be so much more accurate lol....but very hard to accually find maybe idk... but thiers a ton of wellrounded players that have just one 13m or 14m skill that puts em off the list im rank like 60something but most of my skills are low tho I think sorta like with 99 all skills people that can focus on one skill for a bit are much likely to achieve the goal the fastest. so i kinda respect most skills 200m as well @ paper - I kinda agree with allar but its up to your psychiatrist/you/your parents try not to feel like your not worth something cause everyone is - also i don't know you or your situation but it seems that u have some family that does care about you so remember them

I used to dungoeneer with zezima and the old nite back before they removed the wilderness and free trade in 07. That doesnt mean im telling the truth though. Yeah well your obviously a compulsive liar if you can't trust anything you hear Lol or he's smart and just doesn't believe everything he hears? Well on another note, I wonder if the competition will increase a lot in may. I myself have only 1 more exam to go, and I assume a good majority of the top players are old enough to be in uni/college if they choose to do so. Well even if they did they still won't have much of a chance catching up to these guys unless they played 24/7 for like 2 years maybe but since they have lives i doubt that will happen. the top ranks won't switch up much in the next couple years because everyone in the top 50 play atleast 12 hours a day. u say green plays 6 then u say eveeryone in the top 50 plays 12hrs + llol.......the top ranks will swich when people go inactive and no not everyone does play 12. but i do know that yea it is hrad to catch up considering i gain 1.5-3m exp a day for months and my rank really doesnt change that much but then i think around 1b-1.1b exp alot of people start to "slow down" a couple of my friends in that exp range just decided to not care or made new accounts

The lvl 3 "skiller" will most likely have lower stats than a decent main green098 is actually a very good dger btw... As good as Mintella? Trolololol What's with mintella? She got banned or something? For what? no mintella = bornnthis way - and well lets not have a discussion of good and bad dgers im just saying that no matter how someone gets 200m dg they get 200m dg kinda same with other skills too i think tezz may be ablee to compete for most 200ms definately.........fletch + fm + maybe hunter

that woudl just make all the doors higher so = worse.

lvl 3 skillers are kinda offtopic unless one of them plans on just completely doing combat right now =p which yea some do.... uh................................ yes they add time to the floor how much time depends on how good the team is at gathering the potions and how good the keyer is - u also lose a gatestone if u have a skiller. but then again 200m dg is accually a small part of all 200ms - timewise even with randoms and lots of deaths its easy to get a decent exp/day.....even if you hate the skill... and at 200m dg your 200m dg and never have to dg again so goes for maxed players too green098 was known as being not so good while other players on that list like telmo, elias, skiller703, elvis were accually good and they achieved the same result of 200m dg =p...also jd is 200m soon to add to the pro 200m dgers list =)

Tbh I have no respect for a level 3 skiller who gets 99 or 120 or 200m dg for that matter. Pretty much leeching the whole floor. Yes they cut resources or pots, but anyone can do that takes 30 seconds. A person needs to be able to pull the weight in a dg. welll people do dg differently.. some do it all with randoms others have friends to help them all way some people key almost every floor others never key but yea lvl 3s generally thier to justify supermelees and turmoil =P however i personally dont dg with lvl 3s lol.... whatever the role still ends up at 200m dg thier are some higher lvl players that leech too =p

While he was the first to get 200m xp in any skill. I think people knew that xp the cap would either be 200m or 214,748,364.7 People knew that Jagex used 32 bit and the largest number 32 bit can store is 2,147,483,647, which people confirmed with max cash way before Neo got 200m fletching. And since xp in stored in tenths you have to divide 2,147,483,647 by ten to get the max xp that can be stored. Obviously jagex manually reduced the cap to 200m just for cleanliness sake. On another note obviously jagex had to change the way xp was stored as players approached 2,147,483,647 total xp. So they could certainly raise the max xp cap in individual skills. Riot in Fally. Haha ok, well at least he SAID he was the person that found out about the 200m, but i suppose you are right. But are you sure people had that amount of cash in or even way before 2005? with no inflations and phats being around 20m? hey lots of people dg after 200m :P--basically exp wasting but hey =p Dg is so frustrating ill be glad when its done but people that 200med months ago i understand why doesnt mean u cant fletch anymore just that u cant fletch anymore and gain exp from it !

Haven't said thanks for the crafting answer yet, so thanks :) Doing a combination of gems/air battlestaves, but the 100 limit on both sucks. I saw Season in the Edgeville bank casting the new lunar tan hides spell, crafting the hides after. Is it a good gp/hr spell? even if its not maybe could save some on craftinG? =p edit:thier are other reasons to "manually" make money and i think if you want to make for 200m all skills frost would take about 4-5k hrs to make for all buyables i think however its more reliable than making money by bossing/staking but it would be a waste of time to not make money other ways too but camping frost = better than camping abbies and camping frost than doing cave crawlers = better than doing black dragons for effigy. also frost + frost bones on alter is better or the same as frost + dragon bones on alter ;O (timewise to 200m pray) and its better than frost + infernal ashes on alter

are frost faster or slower effigy than slayer?

I have to agree with Aribiterspar on this one, Foot is not a top player therefore we should not discuss him, only if he reaches the top 50 and is going with an awesome pace. Otherwise we might as well discuss this Dragonseance guy that someone kept posting about, or even Arib because he's close to 200m xp in all skills too, timewise (RC xp). You guys are just upset because you both personally know Foot and neither of you get along with him. Comparing Arib's progress to Foot's is just lol tbh. meh most of the top 15 isn't even going for 200m all and theirs plenty of people below that go at faster paces or are more ambitious than the peeople in the top 15......so thier shuldnt be a rule of who we can and cannot talk about.....

idk thief is alot of clicking lol

I agree with Suomi and Telmomarques, but I don't agree at all with Drumgun. He has so much disadvantages, most notably Slayer, and more importantly he has said multiple times that he doesn't plan at all on getting 200m in all skills. I would probably Elias in 3rd (who nobody seems to talk about, despite langer constantly pointing him out as an underrated player), or maybe Tezz. I think suomi, telmo, and Elias are good picks. Frankly I still think Aasiwat will do it too even though he says he won't, nothing wrong with a little blind hope. He is in great position to do it, he has a 100m lead on Jd and he can still get 150m prayer and 150m herb quickly if he has the cash; also dungeon if it comes out with an update to make him enjoy it. As for Tezz I think he has a pretty good shot at it, but we will know more once we see what he does after 200m dungeon which will be in about 10m xp assuming he has points saved from level 120. I'd like to see him chin range and barrage the rest of his charms. But it has not been mentioned what kind of cash pile he is sitting on, but if he has a ton of cash he is sitting on a "quick" 1bil xp. Dapledo is also moving up with thieving probably going for 100m which seems to be a goal of his, like his other skills all at 70m. It's election time in Canada, so I'll give a politician's answer... I believe every active player from the top 10 has a chance to max all skills. Of course some players are gaining more XPs these days than others (Elias, Tezz, Suomi and Telmomarques) and some of them have a "bad" Hp/slayer ratio (Drumgun, Paperbag and Jdelacroix), but in the end, it's likely that some of these players will quit or slow down considerably in the future which will give a better chance to the more consistent players and those who will stick around. i dont think hp/slayer ratio matters as much as like melee exp/slay ratio and maybe it doesnt matter at all if some skills camping effigy is better than accually training :P slaying for no hp isnt as bad as slaying for 0 melee exp ...same with range ..i see hp and range as bonuses but they only go up a lil faster or a lil slower than slayer =p paperbag has a pretty good slay/melee exp ratio and Jd accually trains slayer too .