Viv

I found that it was possible to do 1 fish per tick on my own. Jebrim gave me the idea of using mousekeys to make it a lot easier. If it wasn't for him that video probably wouldn't have ever been made. Also, Decenber 14th 2009 http://gyazo.com/feb42b90109266dd6ee4e2f2e19e7446.png April 7th 2011 http://gyazo.com/cfcf0398fb44ea3943cf03f5db65efcf.png So that means for the latter 165 days 3 hours of your play time you averaged 164344.8k xp per hour. ...and that's without rushing any buyables... pretty amazing

No, I am not. Foot been reading this topic. Total lvl doesn't mean anything. Suomi wasn't max total until this year and he's a really efficient player. tbh not being "efficient" for all time played is just a stronger argument for why ranks on the efficiency list doesnt matter...and it was taken down anyway. (it basically just showed the days played of everyone on the hlf :P) and no total lvl just means u rushed crappy skills but if it did matter u having a higher total than him and him passing you shows that he was training faster than you =p and paper 1m exp /day is really good for lvl 99 and using 148 lol thats prob the equivelent of 2-3m+ a day at 110 or something but dg is getting so much worse nowadays...

Coins are nowadays only a subsititude for xp.. Give me an infinte sum of donations and I can also achieve a high level in construction or almost any skill! Once someone accepts donations on a big scale it shouldn't be considered a "1 man project" anymore. A buyable 200m still takes about 400 hours of nolifing. I reckon that's hard so don't act jerkish. And even if it is not a 1 man project, who cares. I'd still take all the credit for it, and ofcourse i would always be grateful to my donaters. well thats the reason alot of stakers prob arent gunna get 200m herb/pray just yet tbh even the fast skills take some discipline to train all day they are just faster than others.....:P personally im not against donations as long as the person doesnt beg and beg most of the time people that give money away are giving away small portions of there bank. and that small portion can really help especcially on a skill like slayer can get a few more cannonballs or a few more ovl

Did Farm Livid create a way to efficiently train/grind Farming rather than waiting for trees to grow? Or is the xp rate too little to make it a better way to train it? too little =S but its a good bonus since ubercape might require all those spells >.> <.<

Bake Pie (Summer Pies)>Ivy>Rocktails. 0.83>0.54>0.42 the effciency rates of their 'grinding' equivalents. Based upon Wines,Pines and Purple Sweet Barb,for each of the respective skills. Note: Thats assuming you don't have cooking brawlers to use with wines and you don't value magic exp from pies. Also presume your using Dragon Hatchet instead of Adze at Pines. However Pies may not be as 'AFK'-able as Rocktails and even less so when it comes to Ivy,they do still allow for 45 seconds of down time,exluding banking. The magic exp (from pies) holds some value too, since if I recall correctly Lrc(superheating the ores on the road to 200m mining) doesn't quite get you 200m magic. Even a top player has to AFK(better than hitting that logout button). :thumbsup: I wouldn't quite count something where you have to take out ~75 inventories of items per hour AFK :P Though yes that's pretty good. Ivy is perfect: 5 minute click window, never have to bank, and you can have sounds on in the background to let you know when attention is required. Come to think of it, can anyone add more activities to this list? ye most bankskills arent afk cuz invents to quick however you wont have to worry bout anything major happening if ge stand a lil slayer on some task can be afked but most task arent afk with picking up drops loading cannon or if u wanna use steel titan more often..... or too lil hp :P almost everything else involves a huge exp cut

Zarfot got to the top ranks so quickly because he did fast, buyable skills first. Foot can't afford buyables right now, so he's forced to train slower, nonbuyable skills first. Thus, Foot will not get to the top ranks as fast as Zarfot did. I really don't know why I had to spell it out for you... zarfot accually did slayer and random training of nonbuyables first and merched like a year and got lots of buyables:P like in 2008 mostly it was slayer/nonbuyables right after he maxed...

hes not even planning on locking thief/cons for awhile lol oh and foot seems kinda like a zarfot type player he could be a fast trainer for awhile but you cant really tell from a vid whos not gunna burn out and who is and he might not burn out from rs but he might quit for other reasons overall exp shows how far a person has currently come after maxing its about 416m for 2496 tota most people that only get 2496 = about 500m-600m exp....so more exp = more playing after maxed/dedicated to the game also higher exp = more higher exp in the skills enjoyed or even 200m and can show that someones still playing after maxing thier fave skills lots of people quit after finishing cook/dg ect...

Elias said he'll actually get over 104M herblore xp and might even pass Elvis in the process. Knowing Elvis, that won't last long lol. He'll probably train herblore and use up his effigies too in order not to lose a rank to Elias. Elvis dumped effigies last week though. I see Drumgun losing two ranks in the not so distant future. The fast trainers will run out of fast buyables in the end though. Just look at Jdelacroix, aside from thieving and dungeon, he's gonna have a hard time with slower skills in the months to come. smith and hunter ^

LOL. Level 200 is like 287.4 billion exp. GL with that the whole high lvl forums total combined exp doesnt even reach lvl 212 in one skill by a single person lol

The only bad thing about virtual in the context of 200m all is 119-126 in a skill gives about 106m exp but only 7 lvls but say 99-105 in a skill is like 10m exp The lowest skills list is good and shows who accually trains every skill (rank 62 :D) but it is bad for people that have 1 skill low but others at a good base. ;p only 1% of the top 200 had farming lowest me and some other nub :( guess im the only farm hater =( over 10% had prayer lowest -no help from effigies and thiers so many cheaper buyables. over 5% for fish, agility, ect...effigy prob helped with this with investigating exp Suomi was the same as paper in the last virtual update but since he did slayer 97-50m exp soo quick he raised up!

well if it is good farm exp maybe it shouldnt be discounted for people that dislike farming =P

Ehm, warped floors? Bosses? Primal weapons? Songs? 120 cape? still not like anything ground breaking moneymaking wise after 85 or skillswise

jd isnt gunna block the combo quite yet also wb paper

True, the effigy update pretty much flipped runescape around for the high level players, but those are only a few (i mean the players going for xp after 13m). For most low level players the effigy update didn't make as huge a difference. Because for us noobs it takes quite a while to open the effigy, i can't open a single skill lol ;p And besides that we don't yet have the best monsters to gain effigy's from. Like dark beasts. But since this topic is about 200m all skills, i'd have to agree, yes the effigy update should have come in 2001 haha. effigies made it so 13m base players could catch up but it did ruin it if u had some 200ms already or high slayer or rc it did mess some stuff up even skills that are fast can be made faster for instance prayer people do them with dbones now thiers frost bones dbones are economical but frost still better for like almost every high lvl player i think. if they dont fix c2 fishing (i kinda hope they will lol) then it will make a dif thier too....

dg is one of the only ones its not stupid to get 200m in ill be 200m dg in like 2 months cuz doing 3-4 floors a day

That is part of the game and will happen. There WILL be an update that makes RC 200-300k xp an hour eventually. Dont fool yourself into thinking otherwise, why we train is for prestige/rank/fun now rather then later. People who got 200m using historic methods have their names cemented on the front page of the high scores already and people taking advantage of new methods may get 200m much faster, but they will never have a spot on the first page if people already filled up those spots using slow methods. Im probably rambling but I hope I made it clear why it is worthwhile to train now even when things will inevitably get even easier. yeh thats why its kinda dumb to talk about efficient based on ingame time only the most efficient thing to do ingame is to just wait for updates to make everything faster. yeh all 120s will devalue 200ms if they ever did that and mmost people wouldnt go for 200m even in skills they liked cuz it would be much faster to gain overall ranks with othe skills rather than overall exp so people would get 104m exp in easy skills instead of 200m in easy easy skills liek cooking

That's interesting lol. Fletching is only valued at 55k xp an hour, and it's the fastest one there =/ They're just overcharging people who don't know any better hahaha yea thats 735 days played and the avg high lvl forumer had 527 like a month ago.

darkbeast can reach 135k cuz i camped em a bit :P but that was meleeonly w/o cannon did them cuz i was bored of slay an hr :P blackdemons are so annoying if u dont urn tho

tbh if anyone has a right to ask for donations to 200m all its him :P and yes hes right most top players have help in some way maybe not in the form of donations but maybe in the form of getting skill info first thing or merch advice or even just the advantage of being able too form a dg team in 5 seconds.

well i dont bosshunt but i do understand sometimes about money! i mean thier were times that i had 30m and was happy and doing frost or somethign for money for 3-4m an hr would be 10% of my cash every hr but if its like 1% or less of cash its just not fun.... tho i <3 spending on skills slayer drops like whips/sols dont excite me its liek "o more money for pray pots/cballs/extremes or ovl..." HEX was exciting str was exciting til 100m exp then i started going at a slow pace..

this just goes to show how Pro Suomi actually is - And with 5.5m Cannon Range xp(most likely) it shows he isnt nearly as poor as we think? Unless someone mass donated him 1M canannballs lol? if he does abysalls or dragons or even sol drops from icestryke slay breaks even

You obviously do not know Suomi at all LOL. I can assure you that he would have a heart attack if he lost a few logs/hour. He's very much a perfectionist. Also, basically every player in the top 15 is NOT going for all 200m's other than Suomi and Paperbag(and Skiller 703 but he's not there yet). true most players play for fun and most skills arent high enough overall expirience to go for 200m in yet.

u cant c2 a large :P

You could try joining DGS...we are always looking to teach new people and if you learn to key well, you should have absolutely no problem getting 200m in dg(if you are a great keyer, dg ming be the easiest 200m bar cooking with brawlers). stupid place and time to advertise ur clan tbh... anyway paper using effigy on dg isnt a bad idea u'd get more overalll exp/effigy and if you solo then ur treating it as a slow skill anyway so the time saved would be more for you . and you can definately get that lvl 99 :D

blah i dont like quest and diaries o well ill work on them ;P i wish thier was a ubercape just for skills tho considering it cant be worn unless u did the latest quest when i dont always wanna do quest on release day.