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THE OLYMPICS ARE NOT POLITICAL! DON'T LIE! YOU'RE GIVING THE GAMES A BAD NAME! NATIONALISM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OLYMPICS! The Olympics are the one time where we can prove our genetic supermen are better than your genetic supermen without going to war. Sorry to be the Debbie Downer. I mean, what spirit of the Olympics is there? lol

What's the obsession with the meatball sub? Wtf? The winner is definitely an Italian BMT on Italian herbs and cheese bread, with olives, lettuce, tomato, ranch dressing, and sweet peppers.

I'm having myself cremated, and I want a statue made of me as a youth (mid 20's), and have the ashes placed into the cement. : Or I want a cement bench with my ashes placed inside, be something useful after death :lol:

Only things USA can do is to judge the war (already done) and give minor support to Georgia. Anyone whose IQ is high enough to be able to read should realise really quickly that USA even can't help in the form of an attack: the cost of helping would be a lot bigger than even the worst case scenario in Georgia or boarder countries. It's also been said multiple times in his thread so why to bring it up at page 4 once again? Because you mentioned the relations of the President and PM. I'm sorry I haven't read every post on here, but there are other ways that the US can get involved without direct conflict...plus we have airlifted Georgians to help in the conflict. THAT is getting involved, and we need to stay the [bleep] out. Notice how we have trade embargoes on Cuba...that's another way we could get involved :roll:

The US will do nothing, as it should. Well, at least I hope we don't...anything we touch turns to liquid [cabbage]. If there's one thing other countries need to know about the US, it's that we don't get involved in [cabbage] unless there's a hell of a lot in it for us. Sure, the US may say they're grateful for 2,000 Georgian troops in Iraq, but they'll be damned if they see any advantage in it for them to send their own troops to help Georgia. Anyone's mistake is thinking the US makes any foreign intervention altruistically. Perhaps I'm giving Bush too much credit here, but with Iran on the horizon, and Iraq in the present, I don't think we'll do a damned thing. For once, I agree with the administration: that we shouldn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FEQkz1AL4Y

Why would McCain talk like that or joke about war/bombing? It sounded almost edited. Not that I'm a big fan of McCain, but it sounded weird from someone who could potentially be the president of a country. Oh really? He's joked about bombing them, giving them cancer, and wife-beating. True story lol, except, his Presidency is impending doom for me.

By far my biggest fear, by far.

Took it again because I didn't realize there were other "types" the first time, so here it is: ENTJ 78 12 1 22 # very expressed extravert # slightly expressed intuitive personality # slightly expressed thinking personality # slightly expressed judging personality Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition it is marshaling or situational organizing role that reaches the highest development in the Fieldmarshal. As this kind of role is practiced some contingency organizing is necessary, so that the second suit of the Fieldmarshal's intellect is devising contingency plans. Structural and functional engineering, though practiced in some degree in the course of organizational operations, tend to be not nearly as well developed and are soon outstripped by the rapidly growing skills in organizing. But it must be said that any kind of strategic exercise tends to bring added strength to engineering as well as organizing skills. Hardly more than two percent of the total population, Fieldmarshals are bound to lead others, and from an early age they can be observed taking command of groups. In some cases, they simply find themselves in charge of groups, and are mystified as to how this happened. But the reason is that they have a strong natural urge to give structure and direction wherever they are - to harness people in the field and to direct them to achieve distant goals. They resemble Supervisors in their tendency to establish plans for a task, enterprise, or organization, but Fieldmarshals search more for policy and goals than for regulations and procedures. They cannot not build organizations, and cannot not push to implement their goals. When in charge of an organization, whether in the military, business, education, or government, Fieldmarshals more than any other type desire (and generally have the ability) to visualize where the organization is going, and they seem able to communicate that vision to others. Their organizational and coordinating skills tends to be highly developed, which means that they are likely to be good at systematizing, ordering priorities, generalizing, summarizing, at marshaling evidence, and at demonstrating their ideas. Their ability to organize, however, may be more highly developed than their ability to analyze, and the Fieldmarshal leader may need to turn to an Inventor or Architect to provide this kind of input. Fieldmarshals will usually rise to positions of responsibility and enjoy being executives. They are tireless in their devotion to their jobs and can easily block out other areas of life for the sake of their work. Superb administrators in any field - medicine, law, business, education, government, the military - Fieldmarshals organize their units into smooth-functioning systems, planning in advance, keeping both short-term and long-range objectives well in mind. For the Fieldmarshal, there must always be a goal-directed reason for doing anything, and people's feelings usually are not sufficient reason. They prefer decisions to be based on impersonal data, want to work from well thought-out plans, like to use engineered operations - and they expect others to follow suit. They are ever intent on reducing bureaucratic red tape, task redundancy, and aimless confusion in the workplace, and they are willing to dismiss employees who cannot get with the program and increase their efficiency. Although Fieldmarshals are tolerant of established procedures, they can and will abandon any procedure when it can be shown to be ineffective in accomplishing its goal. Fieldmarshals root out and reject ineffectiveness and inefficiency, and are impatient with repetition of error.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006 ... -van_x.htm Yeah, 'cause it's not like the United States executes [developmentally delayed] people, or holds people indefinitely in overseas prisons without bringing them up on charges.... or executes foreigners without giving them access to their consulate.. Yes the Chinese sure do love their death vans... I almost thought for a moment their you where agreeing with Ginger and put up an article about us doing something. On another note Georgia has pulled out of South Osseta and is asking for that cease fire again. The Russians claim they have to verify that Georgia has indeed pulled out: http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory. ... 0300090174 Any one want to wager that Russia will continue its bombings in the mean time? I was agreeing with Ginger...I was just posting China's Death Patrol first...but the comments afterwards were completely directed at the USA.

67 1 1 33 lol...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006 ... -van_x.htm Yeah, 'cause it's not like the United States executes [developmentally delayed]ed people, or holds people indefinitely in overseas prisons without bringing them up on charges.... or executes foreigners without giving them access to their consulate..

I'm glad we agree, as I don't recall saying New Labour were socialist. As for the Democrats... they're right wing. In a country as vehemently patriotic and capitalist as America, perhaps they're left wing; but I assure you, they are right wing in the context of the rest of the world. Gun control laws, as opposed to a total ban, is the sort of stuff the Tories would come up with over here, and they sure as hell ain't left. Oh my god, I love you so much lol. :thumbsup:

I won't bother responding anymore, it's pointless. We have different views about all of that, and nothing I say will change it. We'd be here for years... Anyway: One thing is for sure, the first "3 am test", McCain failed miserably. This new outbreak with Russia and Georgia was an eye-opener (well, not really lol) about how the two candidates would have reacted. One would have reacted in a trigger hasty manner: McCain, while the other would have taken a different outlook that favored the EU and Pentagon's stances: Barack. Yes, John McCain is definitely the leader we need for foreign policy...

I wouldn't quite paint the Russians as benevolent liberators here, that's not what I'm doing- this has more to do with Russian national pride than with real desire on the part of everyday Russians to liberate oppressed minorities, I think - but the sentiment stands. Like in any culture, there's a lot not to like in Russian culture. Some of it is fairly glaring. I get savaged on this board all the time for [cabbage]-talking the States and the culture we've spawned - to me, it's the most offensive ever to emerge on earth. I mean, really. The depth of my disgust with what we perceive to be our common national culture cannot be plumbed. All cultures have ups and downs. That doesn't mean, as you say, that you get to overlook the great things that even the most aesthetically displeasing (to your mind) cultures have wrought. Hell, look at Rome! I mean, believe me, I know - those people were savages. Animals. Like the worst of the US and Russia paternalistic Great Britain and Somalia all rolled into one. But we deify them! It's all a matter of perspective, but we should try to be circumspect. Like I said, and as you know, I'm no fan of Putin. But that doesn't mean I get to abandon rational situational analysis when it comes to Russia.

Leg lifts are better. Forcing your abs to lift up half your body weight is a decent workout for them. There's two parts of your abdominals though, so you'd need to work both.

Now the trouble with Russia, like the States, is that they have a real problem with restraint. If only they had been intelligent enough to confine the fighting to South Ossetia. Bellicose morons. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7550804.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... urist.html Not starting off too well :(

Look. I'm not a Putin fan. At all. I'm not a fan of the direction Russia is going in general. That being said, we need to stop doing this [developmentally delayed]ed 'RUSSIA BAD! HULK SMASH!' [cabbage] every time Russia is in the news. Several people have said it already, and I'll say it again - this has little to do with Russian aggression. Politicking and influence-peddling, perhaps. But the Georgians are definitely the oppressors on this one - that's why the North Ossetians, whose province is in Russia but who are much more recognized and respected by Moscow than South Ossetia is in Tbilisi, are so [bleep]ing eager to cross the border and help out. The two are historically inseparable, but happen to be divided by a border, one one side of which the Ossetian people are much better treated than on the other side.

Do you understand the American political system at all? Democrats and Republicans are the exact opposite (fore the most part). Republicans are right-wing and conservative, whereas Democrats are left-wing and liberal. No, I would agree with him. Most of the Democratic Party are right wingers/Centrists. Obama is a centrist in my eyes...leaning to the right.

With that kind of attitude nothing will change. With virtually no support the so called smaller parties (imo they are virtually unexistant) can't even grow and challenge the main parties. Voting for them is a vote for better future, even though it may not be seen in the next few elections. Wrong. You know how you accomplish a revitalization of more parties and get rid of the 2 party system? You work from the ground up. Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney, and their like just don't get it. Ironically, the Green Party advocated what I advocate, and Nader wanted no part of it. He has all these great ideas for the US, and he's going about it in an ego-maniacal manner that will change nothing, and accomplish nothing. Don't you wonder why geographically Republicans control more of the United States? It's because they're smart: they go for the ground for support. They're joining school boards, they're running for City Councils, they're running for Mayor, they're running for DA...they're running for all these little intricate parts of the system, and building up a base. This is how Obama was successful, and able to defeat the Clinton machine: his grassroots organization was impeccable. You accomplish nothing without a foundation, and until you take the time to build that foundation, there will be no other successful parties in the US.

I know Ginger, *sigh*. I'm just saying that we have taken "socialist ideas" and implemented them into our system already, so why do so many people fear more programs? I responded to you before about Hillary, and I'll say the same thing as I said before: "If she failed once and gave into the special interests the first time, who's to say she won't do it again?" Moreover, Obama has said time and time again that he would add portions of her plan to his own, to perfect it. That's what his plan has been: get people who know what they're talking about to a round-table to discuss it, in front of the American people on CSPAN. Moreover, her plan would not have passed in the House or the Senate. It's too "communist" :wall: By the by, before New Hampshire, Hillary WAS the candidate I supported, and I got turned off by her as the primary season went on. Anyway, I disagree with single-payer anyway, and both Canada and Britain use a single-payer. Would I rather have that than what we have? Yes, especially because it would be an easier transition than to a completely public system. I'll respond to the others when I have the energy.

Yeah he still killed those people, so let us set an example and put the records straight that killing is ok...only if you kill people. :wall:

I have not seen the headlines that say that Russia has invaded Georgia but I have seen where they moved into South Ossetia which is a break away Georgian province that has had defacto independence and fights with the Georgian military. The only thing I can say about this now that I have thought about this is that Russia can point at the US and the EU and say look at Kosovo. This is almost an exact reversal of the situations Here is the back story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Georgia-Russia_crisis edit: you made it clear and were oddly specific, kudos, and now you may ignore my first statement #-o :lol:

Oh of course, I detest people who spat on our Vietnam veterans for doing what they were ordered to do, it's sickening. Calling them baby killers and murderers...yeah, horrible horrible. Capitalistic socialistic democracy utopia? America has socialism: education, libraries, police, fire departments, medicaid, social security, medicare. I would just like to see progressive taxation to further the socialist policies...specifically health care, and I'd like "energy" to be government owned. Germany, Sweden, Norway, Spain, Finland...etc. All socialistic countries, that implement democracy, and forms of capitalism. Not complete democracy, though, as some are Monarchy, with elected officials.