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Which apparently you based on no research or fact whatsoever, and therefore aren't valid by definition. If you make a statement, and I ask you to support it, why don't you just do that? It's not the first time I am asking you what you are basing your generalisations on. So you're referring to funerals that generally assume the soul is immortal? You don't have to be religious to believe that, nor does that make a funeral specifically religious. You believe that a soul dies when a person dies. That does not mean you are right, and thereby the hope, as you call it, is not by definition false. You appeared to be referring to depression caused by the realisation of one's mortality after a loved one died, which makes no sense provided the person in question believes in an afterlife. Wat. O,o ...moving on Please refer to the topic title and get back to me on that one. In some religions, death is celebrated. In others it isn't. On one hand you are claiming someone no longer exists and therefore it is impossible to be sad that they are gone (why is that?) and on the other you are claiming that it is logical to celebrate an individual’s ascension to what may or may not be described as heaven? Although that may be a consolation, that does not take away the hurt of missing someone, mourning someone, or feeling sad that they may have had a short or harsh life. Had you ever attended a funeral led by a priest, you would know what you are saying can come across as rather one-sided and shallow. It was. Funerals are about the deceased, not about contemplating one's own inevitable demise. So what are you basing your opinions on? Any research done, or just blind babbling? As far as opinions go, I am fairly neutral. I am capable of looking at aspects of religion objectively. Why aren't you? ^In other words: "I have no intention of explaining my reasoning or the basis of my claims" You don't know the first thing about how I was raised, only that I was exposed to religious ideology. Claiming it is narrowminded for me to believe the way I was raised is good without knowing how I was raised or how many siblings were raised the same way is just ridiculous. For the record: I wasn’t indoctrinated, and it is both shallow and ignorant of you to assume I was. I never even said I was religious now – all I noted is that I had been raised religiously. Who even says I believe in the figure of God? The fact that you would even imply all of that makes it seem to me that you speak out of prejudice towards religious people and how they may wish to teach their offspring. Okay, I'll bite.. What is intelligent parenting? How is exposing a child to religion not part of intelligent parenting? And again, what qualifies you to make that decision? What is your train of thought there, and what research have you done to claim what is intelligent parenting?

Kay. Have it on Tripsis' desk by 6. Banned for implying you writing is part of a religion.

Ditto. :P

Banned for not working on your article.

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What is this based on? My mother is an athiest and my father is religious: they never had this problem. As a child I was at relatives' weddings, but though they may have been in churches and had a priest present, it was about them, not the faith. Your final statement seems like nonsense to me. Care to explain what it is based upon? Define religious funeral. What false hope? What depression? What is this based on? Lost plenty of family members over the years, and my own mortality would be the last thing on my mind. How could anyone be so selfish after losing a loved one? Have you even experienced any of what you mention in the above post? I'm also still waiting on the answer as to what you believe gives you the right to be telling others how they should and should not raise their children.

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It's retarded... and just wrong. <_<

Wat. Why? :wall:

The conquerors one is nice too. :thumbsup:

Well.. As a female I can say that for me has nothing to do with feminism or anything, though this may have been the case pre-60s. Jeans are just a lot more practical, less hassle (overall easier). They're also a lot warmer in winter. Sure wearing skirts and dresses is fun for the occasion, but in everyday life it's just not very practical.

I partially agree with this. There are aspects of certain religions and religious groups I abhor, however I don't think religion is the cause. Humanity is, and when religion isn't used as an excuse I'm sure humanity is resourceful enough to use something else for an excuse. I suppose religion is what humanity makes it, and as such it can have both positive and negative influences. What I can say, however, is that the western society has largely been based upon interpretations of Christianity (according to my philosophy prof who studied religious philosophy and its impact on (primarily) European society). I would count that among the good influences, and wars used with religion as an excuse as one of the bad influences.

Very nice blog Plasma, I'll be keeping an eye on it too. :)

That was an assumption on my part, looking at some of the statements made by said individual. Though I see where you are coming from in the above post, I am neither claiming a god exists, nor claiming everyone should be raised religiously. I am simply stating that if someone makes a statement and expects to be considered an authority with his posts, the statements should be backed up with something other than "no u" replies to requests for the basis on which the claims were made. This goes for all sides. Edit: Yet everyone should take you seriously without backing anything up? Prove that it is a minority occurance, because out of the many religiously raised people I know, no-one thinks as you claim religiously raised people do. Please also support your claims on raising children religiously. I understand you believe it is illogical to believe in a higher power, and I don't care to discuss that with you. What I am curious about is what kind of research you have done to justify your claim on religiously raising children. Again, what gives you the authority to tell others how to or how not to raise their children? I'm objecting to the fact that you (apparently?) think yourself too good to support your arguments while you arrogantly make generalisations on how people should or should not be raising children. As for your claim about being religious being a bad thing: it may not be necessary for survival, but how is it bad?

If you make a statement based on nothing but prejudice and ignorance you shouldn't be hypocritical enough to point and claim you're too good to support your claims. I have supported mine, so I suppose you just don't know what you're talking about? In any case I think it is rational to conclude that you can neither support your claims, nor are objective in this matter. Meh, that's too bad.

That implies religious beliefs equals people being incapable of rational thinking, or children with a religious upbringing aren't taught to think rationally, which is ridiculous. I was raised to think rationally, and I'd like to think my parents succeeded in making me an honest and rational person, thank you very much. Anyway, that still does not answer why you as an individual have authority enough to be allowed to say how people may or may not raise their children. Please prove that the majority of religiously raised people are so much different. You're the one making the claim, you come up with valid proof, rather than claim I am wrong based on my experiences being raised the way I am. The fact that I speak from experience gives me authority on what I say, yet you apear to be basing your claims on prejudice and ignorance. The fact that many people are religious does not equal religion being the cause of that. Prove that it is.

[hide="Quotes] Sorry to barge in on your argument, but who are you to tell anyone what to teach or not to teach their children? Sure, there are ways of over-doing it, but as long as the children get to choose not to believe in the religion they've been brought up with I don't see what's so bad about a religious upbringing. [hide=response]Who am I? You do realise that how we collectively raise children affects all society. What's so bad about a religious upbringing? How about the surreptitiously dangerous mindset of paranoia and punishment regarding different ideologies? If you're going to teach a child one religion, teach them all religions, then teach them how morality can exist without the threat of damnation.[/hide] Everyone in my family has been raised Catholic: that is to say, exposed to moral values and biblical stories, taught about the faith.. but we are by no means forced to assume it as truth - nor was it taught as such. As a child I was told these were stories with moral values within them, not something to mindlessly assume to be the truth. You just appear to be over-generalising things. [hide=response]What's so difficult about teaching a child that violence is bad or that you shouldn't violate the property of others? Why traumatize children with the false idea of eternal damnation? Why is learning blind faith a good thing what it is a completely irrational concept? Correct me if I'm wrong, but they did force you through a baptism and holy communion, right? Anyway, you shouldn't try to use yourself and/or family when trying to prove a point because that represents an extremely limited sample space.[/hide] Then could you please explain to me why the religious community I was raised in always was against war? Religion doesn't equal war, but has been used as an excuse for war. [hide=response]Again, you can't use yourself as an example. I never said Religion equals war, but it definitely plays a major role in spurring conflict between sectors of society. Why? Simple. As soon as a society develops and accepts a collective ideology anyone who approaches with a different way of thinking instantly challenges what people believe to be true. People will begin to condemn foreign ways of thinking, even inflicting punishments in response as a desperate means of somehow validating their own beliefs. This can only escalate.[/hide] [/hide] First off, you don't need to be so condescending. :mellow: Anyway, since you didn't answer the question. Who do you think you are, telling others how to raise their children? What makes you so special that you know the best way, and what is that based on? In addition to that, you claim I cannot use myself as an example, even though I am relevant to this discussion and am an example of how what you're claiming does not apply by default. Why is that? Do you honestly believe I know nothing of other religions, and do you also think I am utterly incapable of seeing people who don't share the same religion as equals simply because I had a religious upbringing? Why? Shall we get rid of democracy while we're at it too then? Oh wait, we should make thinking illegal. You imagine what might happen when people were to disagree.. it can only escalate! :rolleyes:

Sorry to barge in on your argument, but who are you to tell anyone what to teach or not to teach their children? Sure, there are ways of over-doing it, but as long as the children get to choose not to believe in the religion they've been brought up with I don't see what's so bad about a religious upbringing. Everyone in my family has been raised Catholic: that is to say, exposed to moral values and biblical stories, taught about the faith.. but we are by no means forced to assume it as truth - nor was it taught as such. As a child I was told these were stories with moral values within them, not something to mindlessly assume to be the truth. You just appear to be over-generalising things. Then could you please explain to me why the religious community I was raised in always was against war? Religion doesn't equal war, but has been used as an excuse for war.

What would be the point in creating nature and then to limit its being by making it docile? Why would preventing disease be a good thing anyway?

What would be the point of putting us here in the first place if he was just going to do everything for us? Still, he can help us: he's all-powerful. But he doesn't help us. He's an jerk isn't he? Once again: What would be the point? [/hide]The point of helping us? He's supposed to be a nice guy. But you're saying he isn't. Which is fine. Then I have to question why millions would worship a jerk. Being nice does not equal taking control of, or doing things for, people. What you are saying is like claiming I am a jerk for not going into F2p to hold every noob's hand to ensure they're not scammed and don't waste their time being noobs. The point of not doing so is to let us screw up ourselves and learn from that.

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One is true, though more people are coming over... I do have friends I'm afraid. xD Anyhow, I don't have MSN. Going for number 2 on yours, just because dogs are more fun than cats, and you most likely do have legs. 1. I usually skip breakfast. 2. I work parttime. 3. I have grey eyes.

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Ew no, I hate yellow! I'm the oldest of my sisters. Going with number 2 on yours for no particular reason. 1. I will have 2 Tip.It staff members over for our three birthdays. 2. I don't drink alcohol. 3. I have MSN.

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