Prankster_King

Lol, if it takes this long for people to figure out what the glitch is, it's really not a glitch worth mentioning. :XD:

Lol, sure -- why not? :

Need I remind you that adding 12 more bank slots wouldn't be some month long project for Jagex to do... They could probably encode 12 more slots in two days, if not one day. It wouldn't take much effort. And just curious... "Improving the Logout features"? Please explain further... It seems your topic was locked. Though I greatly appreciate you trying to help out, let me handle making any new discussion posts. Anything involving "more for f2p" is [puncture]ly. It's best to let me post it, with valid reasons why it's not just some "omg, f2p needs more st00f" thread.

With much embarrassment, I offer my apologies to you. Somehow, some way, I completely misinterpreted your post. It seems that my lack of sleep caused me to miss many key details in your post, thus causing me to read it all wrong. Once again, my apologies. As you may have seen my post in my main thread, I've been extremely caught up in RL issues. It seems that it's taken my toll on me after all. : Well, now that I have a whole new perspective on your post... Let's see if I can start this again. Before I start, I want to make sure I completely understand what I'm reading this time: You're posting this thread to address all of the common anti-bank space arguments, and voice your thoughts and opinions in reply to them. This is also a spot for people to post their well thought out arguments, correct? I appreciate you making such a thread. Perhaps the arguments posted here will be better than the spammy little two-line posts in my main thread. It also helps that someone has posted his or her personal replies to the common arguments, thus allowing more detailed debate on it. Nice idea. I only hope you have more luck in keeping down flames and repetitive arguments than I have had. I'll try to check this thread often, and just see what arguments arouse. I might even pitch in my own two cents if I have the time. I'll most likely chat with you later, at any rate. Until then, I'm going to be out for the afternoon. Good-bye for now. :

In the line that I so gallantly bolded, you contradict just about everything you're saying... You say that the argument of "you don't pay, you don't deserve" argument is bull, and yet your entire point revolves around it... Don't understand what I'm saying? Let me break it down for you: First off, I'd like to point out part of that nice little summary of your post you made. It says: Unless you have some meaning behind that statement that completely eludes me, you're stoking the flame of the "you don't pay, you don't deserve" argument, just by pointing out that we should pay this ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬Åsmall feeÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

I'm sad to say that I will be inactive once more, for an unknown amount of time. I have had many recent RL issues to come up, and I need to get them straightened out. My sincerest apologies about the delayed rally information. I just can't find the time to get it planned out and hosted at the moment. There will be another rally, but it will probably be in the Summer. Just keep spreading the word of the campaign, so we can get a maximum turnout at the rally, whenever it is planned. :)

Count me in for Tip.It. :)

I'm going to be inactive for the coming week, due to urgent RL issues. My apoligies, I'll try to check the thread when I can.

I'm just bookmarking this spot with this post. Don't pay too much attention to it. Short on time. Will reply to posts shortly.

I laughed when I saw my own made-up word (tellytubbies) in there. :lol: But, I'd just like to let you know that that term isn't meant to be an actual insult... I created that term, and put it in my guide for popular pking terms as more of a joke than anything else. I would always joke with my friends when our victim tellied away, saying "There goes another teletubby". It isn't meant to be taken as an actual, fully offensive insult. It's just a fun word that I liked throwing at people to lighten the mood of losing a pk victim. : The article was a very interesting read, but you made a pretty large error in it all. (And I say this as I have been a veteran pker for several years now) There isn't "Honour" pking, never was, and was never thought to have been. Pking is a free-for-all, and I have never heard anyone say "Pmg, u pk with no honour!", or vis-a-versa. There is, however, what is considered to be "honour" and "no honour" clans. These are seperated by opinions of what is right and wrong in the wilderness, when it involves crashing wars/events, use of spies, flaming when losing, etc.. But there isn't "honour" and "no honour" pking. What should those "potty-mouths that flame you with pointless insults when they can't kill you" be called? Nubs. Plain and simple. Their lust for easy r00n takes over the original reason about why they joined Runescape. (Which is to have fun) If you absolutely must split pkers into two groups, split them into the "Nubs" and "Mature Pkers". That's really all you can do. There will always be those insolent little nuisances that flame you with insults like "safer!11@!" and "omg def noob1@". The simplest solution to them is adding them to Ignore, and finish bashing the crap out of them. Keep that in mind.

Yes, this would be a nice improvement. :)

Welcome to the good side, Baron. :) I'll see to what I can do about removing the daggers and maces from the list.

As I'm a little short on time at the moment, I'm only going to adress the question about the next rally. The planning for the next rally has been a little difficult for me, because I have alot going on in the next few months. My goal is to get the rally set for May, or at the latest, June. I know this isn't exactly applying as much pressure on Jagex as I would have hoped, but I'm sure we can get alot more rallies arranged in the coming breaks (especially Summer). :)

Thanks to everyone that posted their thoughts. Keep the debate going. :)

Your apology is greatly appreciated, and thanks for removing the signature. I respect the fact that you don't agree with this campaign, and I'm glad you removed your signature because of the offence it was causing to some people. It's nice to know that some of the people that argue here have some decency and respect. :)

Lol... "Less F2P Bank Space" banners. Honestly, it cracks me up that people are lame enough to make a banner like that. Like Devnull said, that's slander. Also, it serves no purpose, but to show that they're spoiled members (most of which are hypocrites. They say we dont deserve the update because we don't pay? Lol, I bet 70% of them have parents who pay for their membership. :roll:). Jagex isn't going to shrink the F2P bank. Why would they?... What, for more incentive for members? Rofl, yeah right. The day I pay $5 a month for more bankspace, is the day that the moon will hit the Earth. :lol: If you see a banner like that, report it for slander. Don't pm them about it, don't mention it at all. Just report, and ignore. Simple as that. They'll get what's coming to them.

Perhaps I've got the wrong end of the stick here - But surely ANY P2P only feature would be beneficial to F2p should it be properly implemented. Isn't that the main feature of P2P? The ability to access content that is more beneficial than the stuff you get for free? :? I'm not talking about how it would benefit F2P players, but how it would benefit P2P'ers. If P2Pers could access the team capes in both types of worlds, it would be more useful for them. While it would help F2P as well, that wouldn't be the main goal of such a change. I think you've forgotten the additional benefits of teamcapes... They allow you to see your fellow pkers as blue dots, even when they aren't added to your friends list (helpful with large groups). They also help ward off misclicks, which could cause you to attack a teamate. Regular capes don't do this. Also, please don't turn this into one of those bloody "F2P doesnt pay, f2p doesnt deserve it" arguments... This is just a discussion about whether it would help members more if they could be used in F2P.

I "rofl'ed" at this post. :roll: You didn't really solve any problem, since the problem of too little bank space still exsists. And you actually believe I would ask for the thread to be closed, just because you reposted an argument that's already been posted two dozen times before? :lol: You're cracking me up. There's many flaws in your repetitive argument, and I'm not going to waste my time pointing them out for the 25'th person to come in here and post the same old argument. =;

^ If you would have skimmed through the few posts in this thread, you woud have seen that we were saying the capes should be tradeabble to F2P. I'd also like to add that I'm not saying this is going to happen, or whether it should happen... This discussion is about whether team capes would be more beneficial if available in F2P.

I agree with the point made of team capes being tradeable to F2P, but not buyable in shops. The F2P wilderness makes up the majority of the P2P wilderness, with only about 20% more land to fight in. Along with the features like the mage bank, P2P wilderness is more highly valued for it's greater variety of pking weapons and skills that are applied (ex.- More powerful mage spells, agility courses, etc.). Team capes are helpful to P2P pkers, but they would be much more appreciated if they could be used in both types of worlds.

First off, I'd like to make it known that I'm not suggesting that team capes should be F2P, nor am I saying that F2P needs more st00f. This is a topic of debate, and I want the opinions of others on this matter. I'd appreciate it if you'd keep focused on the debate, and not some flame fest about F2P not deserving a particular item. Thanks. ;) Everyone knows that wilderness team capes are used by clans in the P2P worlds, so that they know who's team and who's foe. They are vastly useful in wars, for it helps prevent accidental clicks on a teamate. The large variety of them also helps to ensure that clans can get a somewhat unique cape, that every other clan doesn't have. Knowing this, I come to the main topic of this discussion: Would P2P'ers benefit from these capes more if they were also available to F2P worlds? As you also probably know, wars take place in both P2P and F2P worlds. But between the amount wars taken place in these two types of worlds, a majority of them are in F2P worlds. Most clans are a mix of F2Pers and P2Pers, thus causing them to hold most of their clan wars in F2P worlds, so that all clan members may attend. That means that even the members must step down a bit in gear quality, and don a good ole set of rune for the war. It also means that they need to equip the clan's F2P cape. Regular capes in the F2P worlds provide no additional advantages for pking, and clan warring. This can make it a bit more difficult for when members need to come to F2P worlds to fight. Wouldn't it be in the better intrest of the P2P'ers if the skill capes were accessable to both F2Pers and P2Pers alike? If team capes could be used by the F2P part of the clan/pking group, it would make warring and pking a bit less chaotic with mis-clicks and such. Fellow clan members could be easily seen as a blue dot in F2P wars, just as they are in P2P wars. This extra advantage would be appreciated greatly by both P2P'ers, and the F2P'ers. How would it help members more? In case you didn't understand the answer to it in the generic talk above, I'll lay it out simply for you. Less confusion while pking in F2P worlds, fellow clan members (both f2p and p2p alike) are more easily recognizable, more beneficial to members in not having to change capes, or deal with the hassles of mis-clicks in F2P worlds during wars and pking. Those are the general points I'm trying to make, and more may be added in the future. So what do you think? Would P2P'ers benefit from these team capes more if they were available in F2P worlds? Please keep debates clean. That means no FLAMMING, no CANNED HAM, and nooff-topic comments about F2P not deserving updates.

I don't think so. Quest capes are involved with quests, and not with skills as much. True, skills are applied during quests, but achieving all the quests doesn't really correspond with having a level 99 skill that much.

I'm glad you all enjoyed the rally.

I'll be sure to credit Mountain for the vid. :

Awesome video, Mountain. :) I've edited all my pics in the main post. Be sure to check them out. ;)