Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 WTC7 was not destroyed by fire or by debris from the falling North Tower. Wrong wrong wrong. Fire burns offices=destruction. And many forms of debris hit the building, like dust. There, how's it feel to be technically-a-fied! Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pault Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Great. Now go watch American Idol and drink your Kool-aid, ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Great. Now go watch American Idol and drink your Kool-aid, ok? No, the American Idol conspiracy states the show is a lie and all Hollywood actors. Except Sanjaya, he's an, um, exception, yea, evidence that doesn't fit the conspiracy. :) Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pault Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Yeah, it's all fun and games. Also, on March 20, 2007 the Governor of ChinaÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s Central Bank Zhou Xiaochuan announced ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬Åthat China will not accumulate more foreign reserves and will cut a small amount of current reserves for the formulation of a new currency agencyÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâà Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Chinese and Japanese banks participated in "Inside Trading" says officials at Impeachbush.com. According to an unknown source at the CIA, Chinese and Japanese banks forced Europe's largest foreign bank, Deutsche Bank, to make inside trades to later be laundered through Swiss Bank accounts by a Chinese bank known as the Qing Family Bank. The German bank sold off shares in large firms such as Morgan Stanley, Cantor Fitzgerald, Merrill Lynch, Oppenheimer funds, etc, and later secretly bought back shares immediately after the attack in a frenzy. Latest reports trace back the trading to an order made by President Bush in association with Qing Family Bank as well as the AON Corporation and BBC. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pault Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 The really entertaining part is that when we run out food we're going to eat people like you first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 The really entertaining part is that when we run out food we're going to eat people like you first. And when we pull out of Iraq and we have a new 9/11 involving the Sears Tower, I'll suspect you leading the conspiracy once again. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Bush friends in the weaponry company made a ton of money because of the wars. Thanks to the state of fear in which Bush keeps the americans, ppl voted of him for a second time, because of thet "security measures". And now he controls more than ever the gas prices. The americans would not have let him do the wars in the first place if 9/11 did not happen. So if 9/11 was not planned by the government, that's one huge luck. Whats the odds of something like that happening by itself just when Bush needs it? To me, sounds like there's more chances this was made on purpose than anything else. 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magekillr Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Pault go read a physics book so you can comment on my post...cause you comment every1 else's but leave mine alone...are you hiding from it? or just didn't see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book: "For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace." That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran. That is incorrect. http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran911.asp :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Pault, that quote of block text you posted did not answer my question. Why don't you answer in your own words? To what purpose would the United States attack itself on 9/11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 If you propose that America planned and pulled off 9/11 then you have to assume that the same people where behind the attacks in both England and Spain. Thats the main reason I see for not believing that the American Government made this attack on itself. It did give somesort of justification for the war on terror and people have benefited finanically from the attacks but people will always benefit from disaster. It doesn't mean they planned anything. Whether the attacks were allowed to happen is a different issue. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Whether the attacks were allowed to happen is a different issue. Why would they be allowed to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Justification for a war in the Middle East would be top of the list for me. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Justification for a war in the Middle East would be top of the list for me. Has the United States benefited a lot from fighting in Afghanistan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Justification for a war in the Middle East would be top of the list for me. If that were true, it would be at the top of my 'the saddest moments of the human race' list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 9/11 made the threat of terrorism on USA soil extremley large, and with that comes patriotism, fear and support when action is taken against those responsible. This "War On Terror" is not only the Afghanistan war, but includes the war on Iraq as well. Whether they shall benefit from the war on Iraq only time shall tell. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 9/11 made the threat of terrorism on USA soil extremley large, and with that comes patriotism, fear and support when action is taken against those responsible. This "War On Terror" is not only the Afghanistan war, but includes the war on Iraq as well. Whether they shall benefit from the war on Iraq only time shall tell. So you think it makes sense to let 3,000 innocent Americans die in order to *maybe" benefit? Another question. You say allowing it happen would garner support for action against those responsible via patriotism and fear. That's an absurdly silly sentence. We wouldn't need action against those responsible (therefore we would not need the fear and patriotism is caused) if we stopped it from happening. Yeah. That should be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 So you think it makes sense to let 3,000 innocent Americans die in order to *maybe" benefit? No, it does not. Another question. You say allowing it happen would garner support for action against those responsible via patriotism and fear. That's an absurdly silly sentence. We wouldn't need action against those responsible (therefore we would not need the fear and patriotism is caused) if we stopped it from happening. . I think I already explained, America waged war on a whole country after the events of 9/11. Not letting it happen would not allow that war to be made, not allow that fear and patriotic behaviour towards war, and not allow any campaign in the middle east to even go through the rest of the Government. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 I think I already explained, America waged war on a whole country after the events of 9/11. Not letting it happen would not allow that war to be made, not allow that fear and patriotic behaviour towards war, and not allow any campaign in the middle east to even go through the rest of the Government. But wait... So you think it makes sense to let 3,000 innocent Americans die in order to *maybe" benefit? No, it does not. Do you even think your own posts make sense? It doesn't seem that's the case. You also said this, before saying it didn't make sense: Whether the attacks were allowed to happen is a different issue. Apparently you don't even think that you make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Sorry, that does not make sense to me. I don't have knowledge enough in the area to tell you the ins and outs which would make the deaths of 3,000 American citizens justifiable to someone. I can only give you an idea of why it may be allowed to happen, as general as I have. I don't take much interest in 9/11 conspiracies as they do not interest me much, as I don't beleive that it was an inside job of any sort. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 So if you don't think it makes sense, why would you say this: Whether the attacks were allowed to happen is a different issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Just because something does not make sense to me, does not mean it would make sense to anyone else. I'm more open to the idea of standing aside and allowing the attack to happen than to the - in my opinion - laughable idea that it was actually carried out on the American governments orders. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Just because something does not make sense to me, does not mean it would make sense to anyone else. I'm more open to the idea of standing aside and allowing the attack to happen than to the - in my opinion - laughable idea that it was actually carried out on the American governments orders. Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure that we were clear on the point that you don't think your own posts make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Just because something does not make sense to me, does not mean it would make sense to anyone else. I'm more open to the idea of standing aside and allowing the attack to happen than to the - in my opinion - laughable idea that it was actually carried out on the American governments orders. Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure that we were clear on the idea that you don't think your own posts make sense. Actually, i said I see no sense in letting 3,000 American citizens die. Like i said before whether that makes sense to me doesn't matter in the slightest. All that matters is the people who may have let it happen could have seen sense in it. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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